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Breaking Update: Obama Replaces “Allah” with “God” in Edited Transcripts of Orlando Killer’s Calls

The edits just seem odd to me and pointless.


Indeed. A "translation" Should be the EXACT translation of the record. Not changed to reflect what YOU want it to say.
So put it in fuckin' Arabic, so no one understands what he said?


You're some kind of stupid. "ALLAH" means "GOD" just like "YAWEH" does. Any idiot knows the meaning of the word "ALLAH". so tell me lady, why does it need to be changed?
I'm not stupid; I'm the one who pointed out Allah means God in translation. Why is it such a big deal that they used the English version? I'm afraid you seem the idiot for getting so darned upset about it. The guy was a terrorist. The world knows it. He supported ISIS. Settle down.
 


For the love of it all.....Not everyone on the planet speaks English. Are you daft or something?
So no translations from any language to English are valid?


Fucking Moron. It's a LEGAL TRANSLATION. you know, dumbass - BY THE DEPARTMENT OF "JUSTICE"?? It should be word for word - directly as it was spoken.
WHY? You guys are turning the stupidest stuff into political talking points. "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Words are just words. It's not an attempt to fool you if they tell you what they omitted, for chrissakes.


If it is, as you say, that "words are just words" then why the need to change it? Make up your mind here.
It equally works, Why NOT change it?
 
There is no logical reason to edit any of it.we should be getting exactly what was said.


For Legal reasons most importantly. There is a reason why Stenographers work in Court Rooms - to state the record EXACTLY.
If you were an investigator or prosecutor, you would have access. But you're not. You should be glad that ANY of it has been released so dopes could do their stupid drool routine over it.
 
The edits just seem odd to me and pointless.


Indeed. A "translation" Should be the EXACT translation of the record. Not changed to reflect what YOU want it to say.
So put it in fuckin' Arabic, so no one understands what he said?


You're some kind of stupid. "ALLAH" means "GOD" just like "YAWEH" does. Any idiot knows the meaning of the word "ALLAH". so tell me lady, why does it need to be changed?
I'm not stupid; I'm the one who pointed out Allah means God in translation. Why is it such a big deal that they used the English version? I'm afraid you seem the idiot for getting so darned upset about it. The guy was a terrorist. The world knows it. He supported ISIS. Settle down.
There was no reason for the administration to use subterfuge.
 
The edits just seem odd to me and pointless.


Indeed. A "translation" Should be the EXACT translation of the record. Not changed to reflect what YOU want it to say.
So put it in fuckin' Arabic, so no one understands what he said?


You're some kind of stupid. "ALLAH" means "GOD" just like "YAWEH" does. Any idiot knows the meaning of the word "ALLAH". so tell me lady, why does it need to be changed?
I'm not stupid; I'm the one who pointed out Allah means God in translation. Why is it such a big deal that they used the English version? I'm afraid you seem the idiot for getting so darned upset about it. The guy was a terrorist. The world knows it. He supported ISIS. Settle down.
That's not the point,the propensity of this admin for lack of openness is a big concern.For a president claiming he will run the most transparent adminstration ever,they sure have redefined transparent.
It's about trust,its become impossible to trust this white house and cabinet.
 
The way I'm reading the transcript, his statements were in Arabic, and they were translated into English, hence "God" instead of "Allah." Am I wrong?

To be precise, there is no 'name' for the 'One God' in Hebrew and, thus, for Christians. Instead of a noun, the term is a verb form that is mostly translated into English as 'I Am', or similar. Allah is a noun, and is the Arabic name for the 'One God'. But, Allah does not mean 'I Am' in Arabic. Some may call this a technicality, but many take this to be an important and fundamental point. Therefore, the most honest translation of 'Allah' into English is 'Allah'.
 
The edits just seem odd to me and pointless.


Indeed. A "translation" Should be the EXACT translation of the record. Not changed to reflect what YOU want it to say.
So put it in fuckin' Arabic, so no one understands what he said?


You're some kind of stupid. "ALLAH" means "GOD" just like "YAWEH" does. Any idiot knows the meaning of the word "ALLAH". so tell me lady, why does it need to be changed?
I'm not stupid; I'm the one who pointed out Allah means God in translation. Why is it such a big deal that they used the English version? I'm afraid you seem the idiot for getting so darned upset about it. The guy was a terrorist. The world knows it. He supported ISIS. Settle down.
There was no reason for the administration to use subterfuge.
There was no subterfuge.
 
The edits just seem odd to me and pointless.


Indeed. A "translation" Should be the EXACT translation of the record. Not changed to reflect what YOU want it to say.
So put it in fuckin' Arabic, so no one understands what he said?


You're some kind of stupid. "ALLAH" means "GOD" just like "YAWEH" does. Any idiot knows the meaning of the word "ALLAH". so tell me lady, why does it need to be changed?
I'm not stupid; I'm the one who pointed out Allah means God in translation. Why is it such a big deal that they used the English version? I'm afraid you seem the idiot for getting so darned upset about it. The guy was a terrorist. The world knows it. He supported ISIS. Settle down.
That's not the point,the propensity of this admin for lack of openness is a big concern.For a president claiming he will run the most transparent adminstration ever,they sure have redefined transparent.
It's about trust,its become impossible to trust this white house and cabinet.
How did we know what was omitted? They TOLD us. How did we know Allah was translated to God? They TOLD us. What's not open? I don't ever remember even this much information being released during an ongoing investigation. No one is being sneaky here. I do believe that.
 
Yes you are. The literal translation of "Allah" in Arabic is "Allah" - not God.
Allah: definition of Allah in Oxford dictionary (American English)
Allah
Pronunciation: /äˈlä/

/ˈalə/

The name of God among Muslims (and Arab Christians).


For the love of it all.....Not everyone on the planet speaks English. Are you daft or something?
So no translations from any language to English are valid?
This is a deflection.
Allah is not a word that needs to be translated and when done so it loses meaning. There was no reason to actually change that word to God.

The term god is ambiguous - it can refer to any god - the term Allah is SPECIFIC. It is the name of the Islamic God. Why change a term that is specific and widely understood?
"The term god is ambiguous - it can refer to any god"
Millions of Christians would beg to differ, I'm sure.
Really? So you then agree with the OP that 'translating' the word Allah means that they were changing the meaning to the Christian God?

Your posts say otherwise.
 
The way I'm reading the transcript, his statements were in Arabic, and they were translated into English, hence "God" instead of "Allah." Am I wrong?

To be precise, there is no 'name' for the 'One God' in Hebrew and, thus, for Christians. Instead of a noun, the term is a verb form that is mostly translated into English as 'I Am', or similar. Allah is a noun, and is the Arabic name for the 'One God'. But, Allah does not mean 'I Am' in Arabic. Some may call this a technicality, but many take this to be an important and fundamental point. Therefore, the most honest translation of 'Allah' into English is 'Allah'.
Thanks. I'm not sure why they felt it needed to be translated, either--I think most Americans recognize what "Allah" means. I guess the administration is being super sensitive to words that could trigger a negative reaction in ignorant minds. I don't think we need such kid glove treatment, but The Prof doesn't have a very high opinion of us, apparently.
 
The way I'm reading the transcript, his statements were in Arabic, and they were translated into English, hence "God" instead of "Allah." Am I wrong?

To be precise, there is no 'name' for the 'One God' in Hebrew and, thus, for Christians. Instead of a noun, the term is a verb form that is mostly translated into English as 'I Am', or similar. Allah is a noun, and is the Arabic name for the 'One God'. But, Allah does not mean 'I Am' in Arabic. Some may call this a technicality, but many take this to be an important and fundamental point. Therefore, the most honest translation of 'Allah' into English is 'Allah'.
Thanks. I'm not sure why they felt it needed to be translated, either--I think most Americans recognize what "Allah" means. I guess the administration is being super sensitive to words that could trigger a negative reaction in ignorant minds. I don't think we need such kid glove treatment, but The Prof doesn't have a very high opinion of us, apparently.
This is a subject that really has not been adequately clarified and I think it should be. Automatically translating 'Allah' into 'God' in English can be regarded as propaganda. While the intention may be understandable, the fact is there are fundamental differences and dishonesty about that is not constructive.
 


For the love of it all.....Not everyone on the planet speaks English. Are you daft or something?
So no translations from any language to English are valid?
This is a deflection.
Allah is not a word that needs to be translated and when done so it loses meaning. There was no reason to actually change that word to God.

The term god is ambiguous - it can refer to any god - the term Allah is SPECIFIC. It is the name of the Islamic God. Why change a term that is specific and widely understood?
"The term god is ambiguous - it can refer to any god"
Millions of Christians would beg to differ, I'm sure.
Really? So you then agree with the OP that 'translating' the word Allah means that they were changing the meaning to the Christian God?

Your posts say otherwise.
I replied to your specific statement that "The term god is ambiguous - it can refer to any god".
Don't read any more into it than that.
 
Breaking News Update:

Is this insane or what. He wants to tie Christianity into this terror attack.

Obama Replaces "Allah" with "God" in Edited Transcripts of Orlando Killer's Calls

Christianity never has and never will associate itself with violence.

Bwa ha ha ha ha .....
Christians do not define Christianity...
Tell me where in Jesus's teachings he calls for violence?

Muslims define Islam
THE CRIMES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims are sanctified by the blood of murdered kafirs. If the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, was alive today he would be sitting on death row somewhere waiting for his execution.

What is important to understand is that none of these depraved and criminal acts are seen as crimes to Muslims, except if they are committed by someone else. They are all holy, divine acts that their own prophet indulged in and therefore they have been given the stamp of validation as the moral code to be emulated by all Muslim men. They are all Sunna [The traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims].

  • Molested his wife – six-year-old Baby Aisha. One of Baby Aisha’s wifely duties was to clean semen stains from the prophet’s clothes. The prophet would take a bath with Baby Aisha and ‘thigh’ with Baby Aisha, meaning she was too small to be penetrated so he would take his penis and rub it up and down her thighs and against her vagina. Being a man of ‘mercy’ he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine.
  • Raped Baby Aisha when she was nine (texts have altered her age when Muslims could not explain why their prophet married and consummated the marriage with a small child. Koranic texts makes it clear that Mohammed married her when she was six years old. For a marriage to be legally deemed valid it had to be sexually consummated. The Hadith clearly proves that Mohammed was a notorious pedophile). Advocated sex with baby girls.
  • Raped a retarded woman. Murdered a woman. Had sex with his dead aunt.
  • Captured women and raped them. Kept women as sex slaves. Muhammad had sex with 61 women: many he raped. There is no consensual sex between a child girl and a man. There is no consensual sex between a master and his sex slave. There is no consensual sex between a woman conquered in war and her husband conqueror. All such sexual acts are rape. RAPE IS RAPE.
  • Had eleven wives at one time. Sexually abused his wives. Raped his wives. Forced sex during their menstruation including Baby Aisha. Mentally abused his wives. Can you imagine taking a child (or any aged woman) and molesting with your hand/fist her menstruating vagina?
  • Beheaded his enemies. 600/900 Jewish men at one massacre. Had Jewish boys as young as 13 years old beheaded after pulling down their pants and inspecting groin for pubic hair.
  • Ordered the murder, torture, terrorization of Christians and Jews if they did not convert to Islam. Forced Christians and Jews from Saudi Arabia (the mass exile).
  • Assassinated people for insulting him or Islam. Established totalitarian rule. Had followers and their families burnt alive in their homes for missing prayer.
  • Ordered the extermination, torture and terrorization of kafirs. Instigated 60 massacres and personally participated in 27 of them.
  • Owned and sold slaves. Enslaved women and children.
  • Called his black slaves pug noses and compared them to Satan.
  • Treated his black slaves as beasts of burden.
  • Lied and cheated. Mohammed encouraged his men to lie to deceive someone in order to get what he wanted.
  • Caused division and hatred. Ordered no befriending with Christians and Jews.
  • Subjugated and oppressed Muslim women. Required them to cover their faces.
  • Married his daughter–in–law.
  • Approved prostitution.
  • Encouraged the rape of women in front of their husbands.
  • Recommended wife beating. Hit his wife – Baby Aisha.
  • Murdered prisoners of war. Committed acts of terror.
  • Advocated suicide attacks.
  • Executed apostates and homosexuals.
  • Beat children who didn’t pray. Abolished adoption.
  • Honor killings of Muslim women and children.
  • Beat alcoholics. Lied.
  • Stoned adulators to death. Stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.
  • Ordered thief’s hands/feet chopped off.
  • Tortured a man out of greed.
  • Looted and plundered.
  • Preached hate for people of other religions.
  • Extorted money from other religions
  • Forced conversions to Islam
  • Allowed his companions to execute, behead, rape and enslave.
.

References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes:

Hat tip to our reader Craig for the due diligence in providing the references to these claims.

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).

— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),

— Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)

— Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579),

— He also loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)

— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)

— Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.)

— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”

— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.
 
Breaking News Update:

Is this insane or what. He wants to tie Christianity into this terror attack.

Obama Replaces "Allah" with "God" in Edited Transcripts of Orlando Killer's Calls


Why would it surprise anyone> The "Muslim-In-Chief" can't embarrass the good Muslims....

Oh I get it, you're Muslim too. I mean, Obama is black, he must be a Muslim, I guess that makes you a Muslim too.
its-because-im-black-isnt-it1.jpg
 
The way I'm reading the transcript, his statements were in Arabic, and they were translated into English, hence "God" instead of "Allah." Am I wrong?

To be precise, there is no 'name' for the 'One God' in Hebrew and, thus, for Christians. Instead of a noun, the term is a verb form that is mostly translated into English as 'I Am', or similar. Allah is a noun, and is the Arabic name for the 'One God'. But, Allah does not mean 'I Am' in Arabic. Some may call this a technicality, but many take this to be an important and fundamental point. Therefore, the most honest translation of 'Allah' into English is 'Allah'.

So Arabic followers of other religions than Islam don't use Allah to refer to God?
 
Breaking News Update:

Is this insane or what. He wants to tie Christianity into this terror attack.

Obama Replaces "Allah" with "God" in Edited Transcripts of Orlando Killer's Calls

Christianity never has and never will associate itself with violence.

Bwa ha ha ha ha .....
Christians do not define Christianity...
Tell me where in Jesus's teachings he calls for violence?

Muslims define Islam
THE CRIMES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims are sanctified by the blood of murdered kafirs. If the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, was alive today he would be sitting on death row somewhere waiting for his execution.

What is important to understand is that none of these depraved and criminal acts are seen as crimes to Muslims, except if they are committed by someone else. They are all holy, divine acts that their own prophet indulged in and therefore they have been given the stamp of validation as the moral code to be emulated by all Muslim men. They are all Sunna [The traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims].

  • Molested his wife – six-year-old Baby Aisha. One of Baby Aisha’s wifely duties was to clean semen stains from the prophet’s clothes. The prophet would take a bath with Baby Aisha and ‘thigh’ with Baby Aisha, meaning she was too small to be penetrated so he would take his penis and rub it up and down her thighs and against her vagina. Being a man of ‘mercy’ he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine.
  • Raped Baby Aisha when she was nine (texts have altered her age when Muslims could not explain why their prophet married and consummated the marriage with a small child. Koranic texts makes it clear that Mohammed married her when she was six years old. For a marriage to be legally deemed valid it had to be sexually consummated. The Hadith clearly proves that Mohammed was a notorious pedophile). Advocated sex with baby girls.
  • Raped a retarded woman. Murdered a woman. Had sex with his dead aunt.
  • Captured women and raped them. Kept women as sex slaves. Muhammad had sex with 61 women: many he raped. There is no consensual sex between a child girl and a man. There is no consensual sex between a master and his sex slave. There is no consensual sex between a woman conquered in war and her husband conqueror. All such sexual acts are rape. RAPE IS RAPE.
  • Had eleven wives at one time. Sexually abused his wives. Raped his wives. Forced sex during their menstruation including Baby Aisha. Mentally abused his wives. Can you imagine taking a child (or any aged woman) and molesting with your hand/fist her menstruating vagina?
  • Beheaded his enemies. 600/900 Jewish men at one massacre. Had Jewish boys as young as 13 years old beheaded after pulling down their pants and inspecting groin for pubic hair.
  • Ordered the murder, torture, terrorization of Christians and Jews if they did not convert to Islam. Forced Christians and Jews from Saudi Arabia (the mass exile).
  • Assassinated people for insulting him or Islam. Established totalitarian rule. Had followers and their families burnt alive in their homes for missing prayer.
  • Ordered the extermination, torture and terrorization of kafirs. Instigated 60 massacres and personally participated in 27 of them.
  • Owned and sold slaves. Enslaved women and children.
  • Called his black slaves pug noses and compared them to Satan.
  • Treated his black slaves as beasts of burden.
  • Lied and cheated. Mohammed encouraged his men to lie to deceive someone in order to get what he wanted.
  • Caused division and hatred. Ordered no befriending with Christians and Jews.
  • Subjugated and oppressed Muslim women. Required them to cover their faces.
  • Married his daughter–in–law.
  • Approved prostitution.
  • Encouraged the rape of women in front of their husbands.
  • Recommended wife beating. Hit his wife – Baby Aisha.
  • Murdered prisoners of war. Committed acts of terror.
  • Advocated suicide attacks.
  • Executed apostates and homosexuals.
  • Beat children who didn’t pray. Abolished adoption.
  • Honor killings of Muslim women and children.
  • Beat alcoholics. Lied.
  • Stoned adulators to death. Stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.
  • Ordered thief’s hands/feet chopped off.
  • Tortured a man out of greed.
  • Looted and plundered.
  • Preached hate for people of other religions.
  • Extorted money from other religions
  • Forced conversions to Islam
  • Allowed his companions to execute, behead, rape and enslave.
.

References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes:

Hat tip to our reader Craig for the due diligence in providing the references to these claims.

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).

— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),

— Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)

— Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579),

— He also loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)

— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)

— Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.)

— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”

— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.
Where'd you copy that from? Ought to give credit. I know it's not your words--you didn't end it with Dumbass.
 
The way I'm reading the transcript, his statements were in Arabic, and they were translated into English, hence "God" instead of "Allah." Am I wrong?

To be precise, there is no 'name' for the 'One God' in Hebrew and, thus, for Christians. Instead of a noun, the term is a verb form that is mostly translated into English as 'I Am', or similar. Allah is a noun, and is the Arabic name for the 'One God'. But, Allah does not mean 'I Am' in Arabic. Some may call this a technicality, but many take this to be an important and fundamental point. Therefore, the most honest translation of 'Allah' into English is 'Allah'.

So Arabic followers of other religions than Islam don't use Allah to refer to God?
According to the wikipedia explanation, Arab Christians use it as well.
 

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