Breaking WP: Donald Trump was recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005(Text)

[Ray From Cleveland]

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

If I remember correctly, it was in the context of Trump saying the judges should overturn Roe/ Wade and allow the states to make the parameters.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

Actually she voted against the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 as a Senator. She was on record defending the practice. Chris Wallace called her on that during the debate.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

"Protection of the life of the mother as an excuse for an abortion is a smoke screen. In my 36 years in pediatric surgery I have never known of one instance where the child had to be aborted to save the mother’s life.

If, toward the end of the pregnancy complications arise that threaten the mother’s health, he will take the child by inducing labor or performing a Caesarean section. His intention is still to save the life of both the mother and the baby. The baby will be premature and perhaps immature depending on the length of gestation.

Because it has suddenly been taken out of the protective womb, it may encounter threats to its survival. The baby is never willfully destroyed because the mother’s life is in danger."

--C. Everett Koop, Former Surgeon General to Ronald Reagan from 1982-89

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

"Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life"

-Alan F. Guttmacher, presumed father of Planned Parenthood

 

[Slade3200]

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

If I remember correctly, it was in the context of Trump saying the judges should overturn Roe/ Wade and allow the states to make the parameters.

Yes that was trumps point, Clintons point was that it should be a decision made by the mother with her doc and family, no government. I'd think you'd support that if it wasn't label as a liberal policy

 

[Slade3200]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

"Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life"

-Alan F. Guttmacher, presumed father of Planned Parenthood

Dude, it's her body, her choice.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

"Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life"

-Alan F. Guttmacher, presumed father of Planned Parenthood

Dude, it's her body, her choice.

Dude, I wasn't even talking about that. There's a ban on partial birth abortions for a reason. The logic behind Hillary's "life of the mother" argument is flawed, and I cited two professionals in the field to disprove it.

If you don't like the law, change it.

 

[Slade3200]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

"Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life"

-Alan F. Guttmacher, presumed father of Planned Parenthood

Dude, it's her body, her choice.

Dude, I wasn't even talking about that. There's a ban on partial birth abortions for a reason. The logic behind Hillary's "life of the mother" argument is flawed, and I cited two professionals in the field to disprove it.

If you don't like the law, change it.

I dont really care, either way. Just didn't think Clintons stance on it was a big deal

 

[TemplarKormac]

I dont really care, either way.

Lol. No sir. You took a side. Don't give me you lame neutral responses. You do care.

"Dude, it's her body, her choice."

Just didn't think Clinton's stance on it was a big deal

Please. There you go taking sides again. It is quite a big deal. Like I said before, there's a ban in place specifically because of the barbarity of the procedure. The moment one toe of that baby exits the womb, the baby becomes a human being with constitutional rights.

You sicken me, Slade.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Please. There you go taking sides again. It is quite a big deal. Like I said before, there's a ban in place specifically because of the barbarity of the procedure. The moment one toe of that baby exits the womb, the baby becomes a human being with constitutional rights.

You sicken me, Slade.

Listening to the radio today, it's the head that has to come out before it's considered a human being. That's why they mutilate the baby before the head comes out.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes that was trumps point, Clintons point was that it should be a decision made by the mother with her doc and family, no government. I'd think you'd support that if it wasn't label as a liberal policy

To be honest, it never was a constitutional issue in the first place. Do you really believe the founders intended for that document to be used as support to kill babies?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Listening to the radio today, it's the head that has to come out before it's considered a human being. That's why they mutilate the baby before the head comes out.

That's crappy reasoning if you ask me. It shouldn't matter which part of the baby enters this world. I wonder who came up with that anyway...?

 

[beagle9]

I expect you to take responsibility for your community, guy.

The only way to take care of my community is get rid of liberals. How do I go about doing that????

You move... America is about integration, cooperation and acceptance. If you can't handle that then you are on the wrong side of the tracks

. Speaking of the wrong side of the tracks, now where did you come up with that racist class warfare statement ????? Wow.

 

[Slade3200]

I dont really care, either way.

Lol. No sir. You took a side. Don't give me you lame neutral responses. You do care.

"Dude, it's her body, her choice."

Just didn't think Clinton's stance on it was a big deal

Please. There you go taking sides again. It is quite a big deal. Like I said before, there's a ban in place specifically because of the barbarity of the procedure. The moment one toe of that baby exits the womb, the baby becomes a human being with constitutional rights.

You sicken me, Slade.

Oh yes, I care about choice, absolutely... I was talking about the details about Hillary's statement and your interpretation. I'm fine with term limits to abortion, I'm also fine with exceptions when the mothers health is at risk.

Take a peptobismal, you'll be fine

 

[Slade3200]

Yes that was trumps point, Clintons point was that it should be a decision made by the mother with her doc and family, no government. I'd think you'd support that if it wasn't label as a liberal policy

To be honest, it never was a constitutional issue in the first place. Do you really believe the founders intended for that document to be used as support to kill babies?

Did you really think the founders intended for that document to be used to take away a women's right to decide what to do with her body? I can play this game too...

 

[beagle9]

There are plenty of Christians who don't support abortion but also don't think the federal government needs to outlaw it.

But I never said anything about outlawing it. Hillary's positions on abortion are unconscionable, she supports the idea of aborting the child on the eighth month, 30th day, 23rd hour.

That makes me sick to my stomach.

You obviously didn't listen to her. She said if the health of the mother was at risk then that decision should be made by the family and their doctor, not the federal government.

. If the federal government is giving any form of support as in one example being in the form of money or subsidy's to planned parenthood, then they are involved up to their necks in planned parenthood. Where ever there is smoke/money, then there is fire. If the government thwarts the peoples will when it comes to stopping the abortion part of planned parenthood or from policing it, then the government has become complicit in it's dealings with the organization, and it also has indirect influence in the organization. Our federal government has gone so rogue in so many ways over the years, that it is amazing really.

 

[Slade3200]

I expect you to take responsibility for your community, guy.

The only way to take care of my community is get rid of liberals. How do I go about doing that????

You move... America is about integration, cooperation and acceptance. If you can't handle that then you are on the wrong side of the tracks

. Speaking of the wrong side of the tracks, now where did you come up with that racist class warfare statement ????? Wow.

Don't know what you're talking about

 

[beagle9]

Yes that was trumps point, Clintons point was that it should be a decision made by the mother with her doc and family, no government. I'd think you'd support that if it wasn't label as a liberal policy

To be honest, it never was a constitutional issue in the first place. Do you really believe the founders intended for that document to be used as support to kill babies?

Did you really think the founders intended for that document to be used to take away a women's right to decide what to do with her body? I can play this game too...

What to do with her body eh ???? What like get a tan or bigger boobs, face lift, and a wig maybe ?? Your right it wasn't written to stop a woman from being a woman, but when it comes to murdering her child in her womb, because she couldn't keep her dam legs closed, and therefore got herself what she considers a mistake in the form of a little precious human being, then there are protections concerning life that we recognize and honor in this nation. Sadly this idea that killing ones baby falls under the category of a woman's right to do with herself as she see's fit to do, is preposterous.

 

[beagle9]

I expect you to take responsibility for your community, guy.

The only way to take care of my community is get rid of liberals. How do I go about doing that????

You move... America is about integration, cooperation and acceptance. If you can't handle that then you are on the wrong side of the tracks

. Speaking of the wrong side of the tracks, now where did you come up with that racist class warfare statement ????? Wow.

Don't know what you're talking about

. You told a person that if they can't handle something, then they are on the wrong side of the tracks, now where or who lives on the wrong side of these tracks, and where did you come up with that from ???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Did you really think the founders intended for that document to be used to take away a women's right to decide what to do with her body? I can play this game too...

That woman decided what to do with her body when she allowed herself to become pregnant. But as long as you bring up rights, where is the right written for a woman to kill her baby?