British General Election Results

Then explain.

Otherwise it just looks like you'll say anything just for attention, like Katy Hopkins.


I miss her because she was a strong woman, who knew what side she was on and who didn't pussyfoot around with the Left like many other British leaders.

Yes, she was on the wrong side, and she bloody well knew it, and no, she didn't pussyfoot around thinking about the people she was designed to represent, especially the coal miners and the poor people. The UK is still suffering from many of her policies.


She was one of the greatest British politicians of the 20th century, she was the first woman prime minister in Europe, she held the job for 11 years. In the 20th century no other prime minister had been in office for such a long period, the woman was strong and amazing.

Why other women Prime Ministers can not be more like her?

But this thread is not about Maggie.

Nothing you've said has convinced me that you know the first thing about Thatcher. You can easily go onto wikipedia, skim off a few facts and state this is why you like her.

If you're looking for examples of strong women, she ain't it, she wasn't a woman, she was a bitch.


So ...who is a strong woman for you?

Hilarious Clinton? :lmao::rolleyes:

It's not a particular favorite thing of mine to think about, but Merkel might get up there. I have respect for her, she might be on the right of the spectrum, but she's never done anything like Thatcher or May.
 
Well, it looks like the Tories will not have a majority. Theresa may be booted out and who knows if Labour might not be able to set up a ruling coaltion.

For Labour to set up a ruling coalition they'd need the SNP and Liberal Democrats on board at the very least. The Tories will have the Ulster Unionists and possibly Plaid to back them up. The Tories will get their govt.
Pleid Cymru would not back-up the Tories. The Tories are petrified, injured, and rendered weaker than before this election.

I mean, I'm not suggesting it will happen, but you never know what a party, like the Lib Dems, might do in order to get a little power. Plaid should look at the Lib Dems to see what happens, but....
 
Well, it looks like the Tories will not have a majority. Theresa may be booted out and who knows if Labour might not be able to set up a ruling coaltion.

For Labour to set up a ruling coalition they'd need the SNP and Liberal Democrats on board at the very least. The Tories will have the Ulster Unionists and possibly Plaid to back them up. The Tories will get their govt.
Pleid Cymru would not back-up the Tories. The Tories are petrified, injured, and rendered weaker than before this election.

I mean, I'm not suggesting it will happen, but you never know what a party, like the Lib Dems, might do in order to get a little power. Plaid should look at the Lib Dems to see what happens, but....
The Liberals have learnt a bitter but necessary lesson about gong into a coalition as a minority partner. The whole party was punished and Nick Clegg who did it lost his seat in this election as a result.
 
Well, it looks like the Tories will not have a majority. Theresa may be booted out and who knows if Labour might not be able to set up a ruling coaltion.

For Labour to set up a ruling coalition they'd need the SNP and Liberal Democrats on board at the very least. The Tories will have the Ulster Unionists and possibly Plaid to back them up. The Tories will get their govt.
Pleid Cymru would not back-up the Tories. The Tories are petrified, injured, and rendered weaker than before this election.
Plaid despise the tories. They dont like labour much either.But hell would freeze over before they prop up the tories.
 
Well, it looks like the Tories will not have a majority. Theresa may be booted out and who knows if Labour might not be able to set up a ruling coaltion.

For Labour to set up a ruling coalition they'd need the SNP and Liberal Democrats on board at the very least. The Tories will have the Ulster Unionists and possibly Plaid to back them up. The Tories will get their govt.
Pleid Cymru would not back-up the Tories. The Tories are petrified, injured, and rendered weaker than before this election.
Plaid despise the tories. They dont like labour much either.But hell would freeze over before they prop up the tories.
You might as well have a little breakfast while you are up, Tommy. A cup of tea and a fried egg before you take a nap and enjoy the election result.
 
Well, it looks like the Tories will not have a majority. Theresa may be booted out and who knows if Labour might not be able to set up a ruling coaltion.

For Labour to set up a ruling coalition they'd need the SNP and Liberal Democrats on board at the very least. The Tories will have the Ulster Unionists and possibly Plaid to back them up. The Tories will get their govt.
Pleid Cymru would not back-up the Tories. The Tories are petrified, injured, and rendered weaker than before this election.

I mean, I'm not suggesting it will happen, but you never know what a party, like the Lib Dems, might do in order to get a little power. Plaid should look at the Lib Dems to see what happens, but....
The Liberals have learnt a bitter but necessary lesson about gong into a coalition as a minority partner. The whole party was punished and Nick Clegg who did it lost his seat in this election as a result.

Well, no doubt Clegg lost his seat this time around simply because the Lib Dems were awful. They should have been loud and vocal about not being the Tories or Labour, and they were almost silent.
 
The DUP have 10 seats. Which means the Tories need, what 316 seats to be able to form a government. They have 285 right now with some pretty Tory looking places up for grabs.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.

But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.

But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
Because the general election uses a first-past-the-post system, there is no hope for multiple parties. Small parties cannot grow and governments will always gain power with a minority of votes. This type of voting will put pressure to form two parties; right and left and as close to the center as possible to get votes.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.

But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
Because the general election uses a first-past-the-post system, there is no hope for multiple parties. Small parties cannot grow and governments will always gain power with a minority of votes. This type of voting will put pressure to form two parties; right and left and as close to the center as possible to get votes.

Yes, essentially negative voting. However many UKIP supporters voted UKIP because they thought they could get something, and they got it. Now there's no need they've gone back. UKIP were always a single issue party fighting without their single issue this time around.
 
General Election 2017 live: Astonishing exit poll shows Tories set to lose majority as UK heads for possible Hung Parliament

Looks like the Tories will fall 12 short of 326, which means the DUP won't be able to get them over the line.

The SNP and Liberal Democrats are the only ones, other than Labour, who could do this. The Lib Dems won't and I'm sure after losing a few seats to the Tories in Scotland, the SNP won't either. The SNP know that a referendum wouldn't give them a positive result, so what's the point of seeing the NHS fall.

So what could is be?

A grand coalition with Labour going hard on more money for the NHS, the Police, education?

Labour forming government? They'd need 65 seats to do that, the SNP have 34, the Lib Dems 12, that's 46, way short and three parties is hard enough, let alone needing another 20 from the DUP, Sinn Fein AND Plaid to make it work. That's not going to happen.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.

But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
Because the general election uses a first-past-the-post system, there is no hope for multiple parties. Small parties cannot grow and governments will always gain power with a minority of votes. This type of voting will put pressure to form two parties; right and left and as close to the center as possible to get votes.

The BBC World Service say that Theresa May going to Buckingham Palace at 12.30PM to tell Queen she can form a Government with the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party)

As it stands the Conservatives have 318 seats, this will be 319 seat soon as Kensington and Chelsea are still counting and it's a safe Tory seat.

Therefore the Conservatives 319 + DUP 10 = 329 = The Conservatives will be able to get through the Queen's Speech and also pass a Budget etc.

Sinn Fein have 7 seats but won't take their seats as they have an Abstentionist Policy because they won't swear allegiance to the British Queen.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

The collapsed UKIP vote went more to Labour than the Conservatives, especially in the English Midlands and North Western seats, the Labour Party got a larger share of the UKIP vote.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

Yes, I know. Well actually their two defections became one actual seat in a General Election.

But, UKIP was always going to nose dive, it's good for the Tories.
Because the general election uses a first-past-the-post system, there is no hope for multiple parties. Small parties cannot grow and governments will always gain power with a minority of votes. This type of voting will put pressure to form two parties; right and left and as close to the center as possible to get votes.

The BBC World Service say that Theresa May going to Buckingham Palace at 12.30PM to tell Queen she can form a Government with the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party)

As it stands the Conservatives have 318 seats, this will be 319 seat soon as Kensington and Chelsea are still counting and it's a safe Tory seat.

Therefore the Conservatives 319 + DUP 10 = 329 = The Conservatives will be able to get through the Queen's Speech and also pass a Budget etc.

Sinn Fein have 7 seats but won't take their seats as they have an Abstentionist Policy because they won't swear allegiance to the British Queen.
The ordinary English people have no concept of the trouble they are in if the Tories can form a government only with the help of a Protestant, anti-Catholic, homophobic bigots such as are members of the DUP. How that government can be balanced and objective about N. Ireland and relations with the Republic of Ireland while it depends on the DUP defies belief.
 
UKIP down 10.9%, they're dead.
Ukip never had more than 1 seat and that was a defection. The English press and TV gave their loudmouth Leader, Farage, far too much in inches of ink and air time. They were mostly unhappy Tories.
It ought to be worrying how the English media try to make, and in the case of Jeremy Corbyn, break people they support or reject. The English media are unbalanced, right-wing, and pro-Tory.

The collapsed UKIP vote went more to Labour than the Conservatives, especially in the English Midlands and North Western seats, the Labour Party got a larger share of the UKIP vote.
You are mistaken again; about twice as many Ukip supporters went to the Tories.
 
General Election 2017 live: Astonishing exit poll shows Tories set to lose majority as UK heads for possible Hung Parliament

Looks like the Tories will fall 12 short of 326, which means the DUP won't be able to get them over the line.

The SNP and Liberal Democrats are the only ones, other than Labour, who could do this. The Lib Dems won't and I'm sure after losing a few seats to the Tories in Scotland, the SNP won't either. The SNP know that a referendum wouldn't give them a positive result, so what's the point of seeing the NHS fall.

So what could is be?

A grand coalition with Labour going hard on more money for the NHS, the Police, education?

Labour forming government? They'd need 65 seats to do that, the SNP have 34, the Lib Dems 12, that's 46, way short and three parties is hard enough, let alone needing another 20 from the DUP, Sinn Fein AND Plaid to make it work. That's not going to happen.

"Looks like the Tories will fall 12 short of 326, which means the DUP won't be able to get them over the line."

This is incorrect of course. The mathematics as it stands:

The Conservatives 319 + DUP 10 = 329 = The new British Government.

Probably not a full Coalition, the DUP more likely will support the Conservatives on vote basis, the Queen's Speech, Budget, voting to get through Government Bills etc.

The Labour Party + SNP + Liberal Democrats + the smaller parties = Cannot outvote the Government, they don't have enough votes combined together.

"Sinn Fein"

Nobody gets the votes of Sinn Fein ever, Sinn Fein with their Abstentionist Policy have always refused to take their seats in the House of Parliament.
 

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