Building the wall is the most critical political issue in America, we must do it

[BrokeLoser]

Your rhetorical tone screams “let’s play semantics”...I’ll play along...The wall reduces expense on thirdworld human cockroaches. The ROI is in the savings....TA-DA!

Thank you for that. Now that we have that settled, my plan also reduces expenses from illegal immigration and does so in a manner that saves money instead of spending money, as it is cheaper to have troops stationed on our home soil than in foreign countries.

So, my plan saves the country even more in the long run. Why are you so opposed to the military defending our country vice Europe?

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

My job requires an IQ and communication skills… The only people competing with illegal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks are the barely legal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks...oh, and they compete with blacks for that welfare …You know this .

 

[Siete]

Your rhetorical tone screams “let’s play semantics”...I’ll play along...The wall reduces expense on thirdworld human cockroaches. The ROI is in the savings....TA-DA!

Thank you for that. Now that we have that settled, my plan also reduces expenses from illegal immigration and does so in a manner that saves money instead of spending money, as it is cheaper to have troops stationed on our home soil than in foreign countries.

So, my plan saves the country even more in the long run. Why are you so opposed to the military defending our country vice Europe?

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

 

[kaz]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

I voted third party in every election since 1996, will continue that trend in 2020.

We do not need a wall, building a wall is moving backwards, not forwards. Trump wants a wall because he wants a viable, physical monument to his greatness and a wall is the only way he will get one.

According to Trump himself border crossings are down 80%, and that is without a wall and without a significant increase in the Border Patrol.

The wall is an expense we do not have the money to pay for and it will just become a bigger and bigger expense each year as the maintenance cost on it grow with time and age of the wall.

If you wish to control our southern border to keep the evil brown people out there are three easy steps to do it.

First, use our military for its base purpose, to defend the country. We have roughly 97,000 troops in Europe. Bring half of them home and station them along the border and give them the task of protecting the border.

Second, punish harshly those companies in the US that employ illegal immigrants. Make an example out of a couple of bigger companies and make it so painful that no other company will take the chance of using illegal immigrants as labor.

Third, have a real guest worker program so that those industries that do rely on cheaper labor (agricultural comes to mind) have access to those willing to work.

If you do the 2nd and 3rd thing then the only people trying to sneak across the border are people with ill intent and then they become easy targets for the military guarding the border.

On a side note, wanting to build a wall to keep the non-whites is about the most anti-libertarian thing I have seen in a long time. Thank you for dropping the charade.

How doesn’t the wall pay for itself over time?
You must be doing different math than we are...would you mind walking us through your arithmetic?

You would first have to explain how the wall will generate revenue, otherwise it cannot pay for itself.

Then tell me how building and maintaining a wall is cheaper than bringing home our troops and putting them on the southern border. We are already paying for the troops and stationing them in America vice Europe saves the DOD money.

No Mexicrat POTUS would ever demo a $25 billion dollar wall..the wall is forever.
Further, I’ll go out on a limb and bet you’re not privy to “real” costs and expense. My guess is; people far smarter than you and I and privy to more information have the math worked out.

The idea that we'd let criminals come here whether the math supports it or being a net profit to the country is stupid anyway. I know you know that, just saying don't let the left draw you into their stupid crap. And as if the left ever cared about a profit.

But on the math. What is undeniable is that we're way better off allowing normal people to come here who are capable of supporting themselves than the low end uneducated poor of any country. And the left of course in all their calculations ignore the cost of all our poor who they put out of jobs

 

[bendog]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

Some bigot like you said the same thing about the Irish 150 years ago.

And the Germans 100 years ago.

And the Poles 50 years ago.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

Yes, the right wing cares about the freedom of rich people to exploit working folks.

We are against the wall because it's a waste of money and it presents an ugly image of our country. (Most undocumented workers actually entered the country legally or through another route.)

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

Yeah, um.... funny thing about that.. the blacks have been waiting a lot longer than the Hispanics have...

Okay, here's the real problem you guys have. You've spent the last few decades scaring white people into voting against their own economic interests by telling them the Darkies are out to get them.... which worked fine up until the 1980's, but really doesn't work now because there are too many of them, and some white people aren't really comfortable with racism.

The ironic thing is, Hispanics SHOULD be a conservative block now. religious, hard working and pro-family. They'll probably drag the Democrats closer to the center. But you guys have so thoroughly alienated them you've probably lost them for generations.

Wanting an end to illegal immigration is not racist. The Wall is a racist euphemism for Mexicans. And illegal immigration for Mexico has already lessened. I'm all for deporting illegal immigrants and splitting up families and doing all kinds of unpleasant things to them ... legally. They need to be dissuaded.

That's because you don't understand that we need them for our economy to flourish....and that is the best possible scenario.

I've never said I was against legal immigration.

You didn't. But taking a severe hard line stance on those who are already here will harm our economy while it
takes a piss on human beings who are only here because we needed them and they wanted a better life.

used to be that if you had a toolbelt and knew how to use what were in it, you'd always get a paycheck, or that was the saying. During the recession of 73-75, that didn't work out for me, but with public education I got through college.

I'm ok with temporary guest workers and regulated immigration for new citizens, but good with deporting people who broke the law to get here. And imo we should remove incentives and disincentives that keep Americans from moving to where there are jobs and leaving places where there is not likely to be an uptick in economies

 

[BrokeLoser]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

I voted third party in every election since 1996, will continue that trend in 2020.

We do not need a wall, building a wall is moving backwards, not forwards. Trump wants a wall because he wants a viable, physical monument to his greatness and a wall is the only way he will get one.

According to Trump himself border crossings are down 80%, and that is without a wall and without a significant increase in the Border Patrol.

The wall is an expense we do not have the money to pay for and it will just become a bigger and bigger expense each year as the maintenance cost on it grow with time and age of the wall.

If you wish to control our southern border to keep the evil brown people out there are three easy steps to do it.

First, use our military for its base purpose, to defend the country. We have roughly 97,000 troops in Europe. Bring half of them home and station them along the border and give them the task of protecting the border.

Second, punish harshly those companies in the US that employ illegal immigrants. Make an example out of a couple of bigger companies and make it so painful that no other company will take the chance of using illegal immigrants as labor.

Third, have a real guest worker program so that those industries that do rely on cheaper labor (agricultural comes to mind) have access to those willing to work.

If you do the 2nd and 3rd thing then the only people trying to sneak across the border are people with ill intent and then they become easy targets for the military guarding the border.

On a side note, wanting to build a wall to keep the non-whites is about the most anti-libertarian thing I have seen in a long time. Thank you for dropping the charade.

How doesn’t the wall pay for itself over time?
You must be doing different math than we are...would you mind walking us through your arithmetic?

When you spend twenty billion bucks, plus future maintenance which is considerable, on a fantasy wall that ignores the reality of where illicit immigration comes from in the first place and therefore has little effect --- where exactly is your ROI on that?

Remember the mantra: "You don't sell products, benefits or solutions ---- you sell FEELINGS". That's what the wall is. It's already been sold, and you lot bought it. The wall isn't an actual wall, it's a fantasy sold to the gullible And Mexico didn't pay for it -- the rest of us in this country did.

A million Mexicans walk up to a reinforced concrete 30 foot wall dug down into the ground.

They laugh and say wow, that might as well not be there at all!

Then they proceed to ___ and the million illegal aliens enter the United States ...

You fill in the blank

Buy plane tickets. Go around the wall. Enter through a border check point.

The wetbacks destroying our nation can’t afford to buy plane tickets… You know this

 

[bendog]

Thank you for that. Now that we have that settled, my plan also reduces expenses from illegal immigration and does so in a manner that saves money instead of spending money, as it is cheaper to have troops stationed on our home soil than in foreign countries.

So, my plan saves the country even more in the long run. Why are you so opposed to the military defending our country vice Europe?

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

some people are less capable than others in gaining skills in higher education. The dems used to be their party.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thank you for that. Now that we have that settled, my plan also reduces expenses from illegal immigration and does so in a manner that saves money instead of spending money, as it is cheaper to have troops stationed on our home soil than in foreign countries.

So, my plan saves the country even more in the long run. Why are you so opposed to the military defending our country vice Europe?

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

My job requires an IQ and communication skills… The only people competing with illegal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks are the barely legal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks...oh, and they compete with blacks for that welfare …You know this .

Either you put on a really good act here or you suck at your job


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[bendog]

I voted third party in every election since 1996, will continue that trend in 2020.

We do not need a wall, building a wall is moving backwards, not forwards. Trump wants a wall because he wants a viable, physical monument to his greatness and a wall is the only way he will get one.

According to Trump himself border crossings are down 80%, and that is without a wall and without a significant increase in the Border Patrol.

The wall is an expense we do not have the money to pay for and it will just become a bigger and bigger expense each year as the maintenance cost on it grow with time and age of the wall.

If you wish to control our southern border to keep the evil brown people out there are three easy steps to do it.

First, use our military for its base purpose, to defend the country. We have roughly 97,000 troops in Europe. Bring half of them home and station them along the border and give them the task of protecting the border.

Second, punish harshly those companies in the US that employ illegal immigrants. Make an example out of a couple of bigger companies and make it so painful that no other company will take the chance of using illegal immigrants as labor.

Third, have a real guest worker program so that those industries that do rely on cheaper labor (agricultural comes to mind) have access to those willing to work.

If you do the 2nd and 3rd thing then the only people trying to sneak across the border are people with ill intent and then they become easy targets for the military guarding the border.

On a side note, wanting to build a wall to keep the non-whites is about the most anti-libertarian thing I have seen in a long time. Thank you for dropping the charade.

How doesn’t the wall pay for itself over time?
You must be doing different math than we are...would you mind walking us through your arithmetic?

When you spend twenty billion bucks, plus future maintenance which is considerable, on a fantasy wall that ignores the reality of where illicit immigration comes from in the first place and therefore has little effect --- where exactly is your ROI on that?

Remember the mantra: "You don't sell products, benefits or solutions ---- you sell FEELINGS". That's what the wall is. It's already been sold, and you lot bought it. The wall isn't an actual wall, it's a fantasy sold to the gullible And Mexico didn't pay for it -- the rest of us in this country did.

A million Mexicans walk up to a reinforced concrete 30 foot wall dug down into the ground.

They laugh and say wow, that might as well not be there at all!

Then they proceed to ___ and the million illegal aliens enter the United States ...

You fill in the blank

Buy plane tickets. Go around the wall. Enter through a border check point.

The wetbacks destroying our nation can’t afford to buy plane tickets… You know this

and the dems had their share of racist trash.

 

[kaz]

I voted for Gary Johnson, liar. I never said I didn't vote.

ummmmm....

View attachment 183847

I did not vote for Trump in 2016, but I will in 2020. Read the poll above

" voted that I did not vote for 2016..."

So that's in the middle. It has "for" but it doesn't have "Trump."

This is what a dick you are. It's reasonable to ask if I voted. I did, I voted for Gary Johnson.

You got a typo though, congrats! Wow, you were military, I believe you now! I only dropped the word Trump and you're a proud as a poodle who found a deer leg in a neighbor's garage and is dragging it around the neighborhood

 

[bendog]

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

My job requires an IQ and communication skills… The only people competing with illegal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks are the barely legal five foot tall silver tooth smelly wetbacks...oh, and they compete with blacks for that welfare …You know this .

Either you put on a really good act here or you suck at your job


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Well, he could work in a prison and interface with unarmed prisoners. (-:

 

[kaz]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

Some bigot like you said the same thing about the Irish 150 years ago.

And the Germans 100 years ago.

And the Poles 50 years ago.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

Yes, the right wing cares about the freedom of rich people to exploit working folks.

We are against the wall because it's a waste of money and it presents an ugly image of our country. (Most undocumented workers actually entered the country legally or through another route.)

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

Yeah, um.... funny thing about that.. the blacks have been waiting a lot longer than the Hispanics have...

Okay, here's the real problem you guys have. You've spent the last few decades scaring white people into voting against their own economic interests by telling them the Darkies are out to get them.... which worked fine up until the 1980's, but really doesn't work now because there are too many of them, and some white people aren't really comfortable with racism.

The ironic thing is, Hispanics SHOULD be a conservative block now. religious, hard working and pro-family. They'll probably drag the Democrats closer to the center. But you guys have so thoroughly alienated them you've probably lost them for generations.

that's true of black people, too, for the most part -- church-going, religious, have little sympathy for gays and reproductive choice. if the GOP didn't fly the bigot flag, they'd still be republicans because it was the party of Lincoln. (now perverted by white supremacists).

Get mental help. Seriously

 

[LoneLaugher]

“The wall is forever.”

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

some people are less capable than others in gaining skills in higher education. The dems used to be their party.

Only one major party has retraining of displaced workers in its platform. Hint: It ain't the party which elected Trump.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I voted for Gary Johnson, liar. I never said I didn't vote.

ummmmm....

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I did not vote for Trump in 2016, but I will in 2020. Read the poll above

" voted that I did not vote for 2016..."

So that's in the middle. It has "for" but it doesn't have "Trump."

This is what a dick you are. It's reasonable to ask if I voted. I did, I voted for Gary Johnson.

You got a typo though, congrats! Wow, you were military, I believe you now! I only dropped the word Trump and you're a proud as a poodle who found a deer leg in a neighbor's garage and is dragging it around the neighborhood

A unique way to apologize for calling someone a liar, but from the most dishonest person on the forum, I guess it is a good start


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[kaz]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Man...you sure do have some pent up hatred for brown people.

You won't see a wall built. And it won't matter because American FREE CAPITALIST corporations want them some Mexican labor. And they will have it.
No wall will stop them.

Another racist who thinks that only brown people break immigration laws.

kaz: I want middle class Hispanics, not poor ones

You see a racist behind every tree, that while you push racist bigotry, grand wizard

 

[bendog]

So is our military.

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

some people are less capable than others in gaining skills in higher education. The dems used to be their party.

Only one major party has retraining of displaced workers in its platform. Hint: It ain't the party which elected Trump.

The current position of the gop on supporting students in higher education including trade schools is dismal.

 

[LoneLaugher]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

I didn't vote for Trump last time for two main reasons. First, I'm a capitalist and he isn't. Free trade is the beating heart of capitalism. Second, he has been a pig to women. Unlike Democrats who voted twice for a sexual predator and again for his hoe who attacked his victims again, that does matter to me.

But now it's down to this. We must end the endless flow now. And for me, my decision of whether I will vote for him comes down to this. Build the wall and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I can't imagine what would make me flip from that. This is THE political question in our country. We must build the wall, and build it now.

I voted that I did not vote for 2016 but I will in 2020 because I believe/hope he'll actually do it.

Please explain your vote if you voted you will change your vote regarding Trump either way.

Man...you sure do have some pent up hatred for brown people.

You won't see a wall built. And it won't matter because American FREE CAPITALIST corporations want them some Mexican labor. And they will have it.
No wall will stop them.

Another racist who thinks that only brown people break immigration laws.

kaz: I want middle class Hispanics, not poor ones

You see a racist behind every tree, that while you push racist bigotry, grand wizard

Why are you afraid to admit that you prefer white people over brown people? Nobody here knows who you are. You can
still go through your real life hiding your true nature. Why hide it here? Free yourself.

Or...just once in your sad life....say something that leads a thinking person to believe that you are in favor of ethnic and racial diversity.
Call out some TRUE racists when you see them. Give us a hint that you understand why the rebel flag is a racist symbol and
statues honoring Robert E. Lee are tributes to bigotry. FFS.....we see you!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Military usage is appropriated by POTUS...a Mexicrat POTUS wouldn’t keep troops on the border...they need to grow their constituency, they love illegals...you know this.

only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

some people are less capable than others in gaining skills in higher education. The dems used to be their party.

Only one major party has retraining of displaced workers in its platform. Hint: It ain't the party which elected Trump.

The current position of the gop on supporting students in higher education including trade schools is dismal.

Yes it is. As is their position on elementary and grade schools. Dismal.

 

[kaz]

For some reason, Trumpettes seem to think that Mexicans don't know how to operate shovels and ladders. Not that they have to, since half of all illegal aliens simply overstayed their visas.

Somehow leftists don't understand that shovels and ladders aren't a realistic way for the million Mexicans who come here a year to get here. Your standard is if one illegal gets through the whole thing is a failure.

You also don't understand that it's even harder to carry kilos of drugs, illegal weapons, etc. when you're crawling through a tunnel or climbing over a 30 foot wall designed to make that difficult.

Your most inane argument is that more electric monitoring and surveillance and more border patrols will work if we don't build a wall and won't work if we do.

Another failure who was educated (sic) in a government school

 

[kaz]

In the end, if we don't build the wall, the Democrats will smother us. They have already flipped California and New Mexico into solid blue States. Illegal voters have turned Nevada light blue. And they have turned Texas and Arizona from solid to light red.

Some bigot like you said the same thing about the Irish 150 years ago.

And the Germans 100 years ago.

And the Poles 50 years ago.

The issue of illegal immigration has been an endless game of kick the can for decades. But this is it. The authoritarian leftist Democrat party is on the verge of a stranglehold on the country and the end of our freedom. That's why the Democrats fight so hysterically against the wall. They don't think it won't work, they know it will.

Yes, the right wing cares about the freedom of rich people to exploit working folks.

We are against the wall because it's a waste of money and it presents an ugly image of our country. (Most undocumented workers actually entered the country legally or through another route.)

The reason this is THE issue is that for that reason, every other issue is dependent on the wall. If we don't build the wall, then Texas will eventually flip and with that alone we're done. Hispanics over time like all other Americans become more conservative as they become more successful. But that takes time and a million illegals coming here a year floods that.

Yeah, um.... funny thing about that.. the blacks have been waiting a lot longer than the Hispanics have...

Okay, here's the real problem you guys have. You've spent the last few decades scaring white people into voting against their own economic interests by telling them the Darkies are out to get them.... which worked fine up until the 1980's, but really doesn't work now because there are too many of them, and some white people aren't really comfortable with racism.

The ironic thing is, Hispanics SHOULD be a conservative block now. religious, hard working and pro-family. They'll probably drag the Democrats closer to the center. But you guys have so thoroughly alienated them you've probably lost them for generations.

Wanting an end to illegal immigration is not racist. The Wall is a racist euphemism for Mexicans. And illegal immigration for Mexico has already lessened. I'm all for deporting illegal immigrants and splitting up families and doing all kinds of unpleasant things to them ... legally. They need to be dissuaded.

That's because you don't understand that we need them for our economy to flourish....and that is the best possible scenario.

The best possible scenario is to stop the illegal immigration of poor people and bring better educated normal people from those same countries instead. We make it simple to come here illegally and very difficult to do it legally. That is what is stupid, and it's your policy.

Of course your real goal is a voter registration drive and middle class won't be virtually exclusively Democrat like the poor people you want are.

 

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only in the delusional minds of people who are such failures that they compete for jobs with people who don't speak English.

uneducated RW idiots yammer about Mexicans taking their jobs.

solution;

GET AN EDUCATION - GE A BETTER JOB.

DUMBASSES.

some people are less capable than others in gaining skills in higher education. The dems used to be their party.

Only one major party has retraining of displaced workers in its platform. Hint: It ain't the party which elected Trump.

The current position of the gop on supporting students in higher education including trade schools is dismal.

Yes it is. As is their position on elementary and grade schools. Dismal.

I'm open to charter schools when public schools have failed.