Bush's Lies Caused The Iraq War

[Camp]

Context of '1947: Japanese Soldier Who Waterboarded US Civilian Convicted of War Crime'


http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~changmin/Japan/Philippines/Japan_Philippines_YukiDetails.htm

 

[KNB]

Context of '1947: Japanese Soldier Who Waterboarded US Civilian Convicted of War Crime'


Philippines Trial - Yuki (details)

But you have to remember "American exceptionalism". The rules apply to everyone except for us. Because freedom.

 

[Camp]

Context of '1947: Japanese Soldier Who Waterboarded US Civilian Convicted of War Crime'


Philippines Trial - Yuki (details)

But you have to remember "American exceptionalism". The rules apply to everyone except for us. Because freedom.

Here is another one.

Yukio Asano

 

[BlindBoo]

And obviously the far left forgets that Carter got us involved with Saddam.

Saddam an honorary citizen of Detroit...

U.s. terrorist regime saddam's backer - By giving arms, intelligence a - General Politics and Current Issues - ShiaChat.com

In early 1979, the Shah of Iran, the U.S.'s loyal Persian Gulf gendarme, was overthrown. The U.S. Embassy in Teheran was seized by militant students in November, and a month later, on Christmas eve, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan.

These developments shocked the U.S. establishment. They threatened to undermine its grip on the oil-rich Gulf, and possibly hand their Soviet rivals a major geopolitical gain. The U.S. counter-attacked, and one front (and there were many) seems to have been encouraging Iraq to invade Iran.

Not surprisingly, Carter administration officials deny they gave Iraq a "green light" for its September 22, 1980 invasion. Yet there is evidence that they did just that. On April 14, 1980, five months before Iraq's invasion, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Advisor, signaled the U.S.'s willingness to work with Iraq: "We see no fundamental incompatibility of interests between the United States and Iraq...we do not feel that American- Iraqi relations need to be frozen in antagonisms." In June, Iranian students revealed a secret memo from Brzezinski to then-Secretary of State Cyrus Vance recommending the "destabilization" of Iran's Islamic Republic via its neighbors.

he New York Times could also have delved into how the U.S. helped arm both Iran and Iraq, and then manipulated them in order to make sure neither won a decisive victory. In 1983, one U.S. official declared, "We don't give a damn as long as the Iran-Iraq carnage does not affect our allies or alter the balance of power." (Dilip Hiro, The Longest War, p. 121)

By 1982, the war's momentum had shifted to Iran, which was threatening Basra, Iraq's second largest city. According to a 1995 affidavit by Reagan National Security Council staffer Howard Teicher (which the U.S. government demanded the court seal for "national security" reasons), "In the Spring of 1982, Iraq teetered on the brink of losing its war with Iran.... In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States...would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran." (RealHistoryArchives.com)

Teicher states that after Reagan signed a secret National Security Directive in June 1982, "The United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required."

Anti-personnel cluster bombs were a U.S. favorite. "CIA Director [William] Casey was adamant that cluster bombs were a perfect `force multiplier,' for Iraq," Teicher states, and "the CIA authorized, approved and assisted Cardoen [the supplier] in the manufacture and sale of cluster bombs and other munitions to Iraq."

USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA..........

 

[KNB]

But it's only "torture" when it's done to an American. It's not torture when an American does it to someone else, because we're the good guys, remember? Bush said so.

If waterboarding is torture and torture is a war crime then the Bush administration and the CIA would be punishable under international human rights laws.

 

[Camp]

And obviously the far left forgets that Carter got us involved with Saddam.

Saddam an honorary citizen of Detroit...

U.s. terrorist regime saddam's backer - By giving arms, intelligence a - General Politics and Current Issues - ShiaChat.com

In early 1979, the Shah of Iran, the U.S.'s loyal Persian Gulf gendarme, was overthrown. The U.S. Embassy in Teheran was seized by militant students in November, and a month later, on Christmas eve, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan.

These developments shocked the U.S. establishment. They threatened to undermine its grip on the oil-rich Gulf, and possibly hand their Soviet rivals a major geopolitical gain. The U.S. counter-attacked, and one front (and there were many) seems to have been encouraging Iraq to invade Iran.

Not surprisingly, Carter administration officials deny they gave Iraq a "green light" for its September 22, 1980 invasion. Yet there is evidence that they did just that. On April 14, 1980, five months before Iraq's invasion, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Advisor, signaled the U.S.'s willingness to work with Iraq: "We see no fundamental incompatibility of interests between the United States and Iraq...we do not feel that American- Iraqi relations need to be frozen in antagonisms." In June, Iranian students revealed a secret memo from Brzezinski to then-Secretary of State Cyrus Vance recommending the "destabilization" of Iran's Islamic Republic via its neighbors.

he New York Times could also have delved into how the U.S. helped arm both Iran and Iraq, and then manipulated them in order to make sure neither won a decisive victory. In 1983, one U.S. official declared, "We don't give a damn as long as the Iran-Iraq carnage does not affect our allies or alter the balance of power." (Dilip Hiro, The Longest War, p. 121)

By 1982, the war's momentum had shifted to Iran, which was threatening Basra, Iraq's second largest city. According to a 1995 affidavit by Reagan National Security Council staffer Howard Teicher (which the U.S. government demanded the court seal for "national security" reasons), "In the Spring of 1982, Iraq teetered on the brink of losing its war with Iran.... In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States...would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran." (RealHistoryArchives.com)

Teicher states that after Reagan signed a secret National Security Directive in June 1982, "The United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required."

Anti-personnel cluster bombs were a U.S. favorite. "CIA Director [William] Casey was adamant that cluster bombs were a perfect `force multiplier,' for Iraq," Teicher states, and "the CIA authorized, approved and assisted Cardoen [the supplier] in the manufacture and sale of cluster bombs and other munitions to Iraq."

USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA..........

Iran was holding 44 American hostages. Arming their enemy seemed like an appropriate way to talk to them. It was anyone's guess as to the extent the US would be willing to arm Iraq. It was feasible that an Iraqi military could be created that would annihilate or cripple Iran. If we were decided to retaliate for any harm that might befall the hostages, the Iraqi's would become invaluable.

 

[GreenBean]

Of course, it's all Obama's fault. Now that we have that out of the way, Republicans are free to review the declassified Bush government documents which prove that the information on Iraq's WMD was fabricated to justify the preemptive invasion and all consequences thereafter.

The material presented in this electronic briefing book includes both essential pre-war documentation and documents produced or released subsequent to the start of military action in March 2003. Pre-war documentation includes the major unclassified U.S. and British assessments of Iraq's WMD programs; the IAEA and UNSCOM reports covering the final period prior to their 1998 departure, and between November 27, 2002, and February 2003; the transcript of a key speech by President Bush; a statement of U.S. policy toward combating WMD; the transcript of and slides for Secretary Powell's presentation to the U.N. on February 5, 2003; and documents from the 1980s and 1990's concerning various aspects of Iraqi WMD activities.
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

The documents suggest that the public relations push for war came before the intelligence analysis, which then conformed to public positions taken by Pentagon and White House officials. For example, a July 2002 draft of the "White Paper" ultimately issued by the CIA in October 2002 actually pre-dated the National Intelligence Estimate that the paper purportedly summarized, but which Congress did not insist on until September 2002.
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD

Washington, D.C., October 4, 2010 - For nearly a year before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the British government of Prime Minister Tony Blair collaborated closely with the George W. Bush administration to produce a far starker picture of the threat from Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) than was justified by intelligence at the time, according to British and American government documents posted today by the National Security Archive.

With the aim of strengthening the political case for going to war, both governments regularly coordinated their assessments, the records show, occasionally downplaying and even eliminating points of disagreement over the available intelligence. The new materials, acquired largely through the U.K. Freedom of Information Act and often featuring less redacted versions of previously released records, also reveal that the Blair administration, far earlier than has been appreciated until now, utilized public relations specialists to help craft the formal intelligence “white papers” about Iraq’s WMD program.

At one point, even though intelligence officials were skeptical, the British went so far as to incorporate in their white paper allegations about Saddam’s nuclear ambitions because they had been made publicly by President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

Washington, DC, March 19, 2013 – The U.S. invasion of Iraq turned out to be a textbook case of flawed assumptions, wrong-headed intelligence, propaganda manipulation, and administrative ad hockery, according to the National Security Archive's briefing book of declassified documents posted today to mark the 10th anniversary of the war.

The Archive's documentary primer includes the famous Downing Street memo ("intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy"), the POLO STEP PowerPoint invasion plans (assuming out of existence any possible insurgency), an FBI interview with Saddam Hussein in captivity (he said he lied about weapons of mass destruction to keep Iran guessing and deterred), and the infamous National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (wrong in its findings, but with every noted dissent turning out to be accurate).

"These dozen documents provide essential reading for anyone trying to understand the Iraq war," remarked Joyce Battle, Archive senior analyst who is compiling a definitive reference collection of declassified documents on the Iraq War. "At a moment when the public is debating the costs and consequences of the U.S. invasion, these primary sources refresh the memory and ground the discussion with contemporary evidence."

A decade after the U.S. invasion of Iraq (March 19, 2003), the debate continues over whether the United States truly believed that Iraq's supposed WMD capabilities posed an imminent danger, and whether the results of the engagement have been worth the high costs to both countries. To mark the 10 th anniversary of the start of hostilities, the National Security Archive has posted a selection of essential historical documents framing the key elements of one of America's most significant foreign policy choices of recent times. The records elucidate the decision to go to war, to administer a post-invasion Iraq, and to sell the idea to Congress, the media, and the public at large.
The Iraq War Ten Years After

You basically mean some of the same errors that were echoed from The Clintonians

 

[Camp]

Water boarding is torture. Always has been. Why do idiots deny it. Can't they read. Why do we pay the least bit of attention to these morons?

No it is not. You are wrong and we are right.

How many links will you be needing before you realize you are mistaken?

 

[KNB]

But we know that from 1983 to 1988, Reagan was arming Iran, too.

 

[KNB]

You basically mean some of the same errors that were echoed from The Clintonians

Clintonians? Bush was a Clintonian? Who invaded Iraq in 2003? Who was it? Clinton? Was it President Bill Clinton who lied to America to invade Iraq in 2003?

Those Republicans on this forum who have read the Bush administration's declassified documents are not trying to argue in this thread anymore. Read the truth from the Bush administration. What the Bush administration said in public were lies, but their declassified documents show what they were really up to. They doctored the intelligence on Iraq's WMD capabilities to justify an otherwise unjustifiable invasion of Iraq in 2003.

George W. Bush lied to America and the world in 2003. Not Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton lied to bomb Iraq but didn't try to occupy it. Bush lied to invade and occupy Iraq.

 

[Camp]

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZw8PzLZn2s]Oliver North Hearing - YouTube[/ame]


When "I CAN'T RECALL" was the new way of telling a lie.

 

[TooTall]

You basically mean some of the same errors that were echoed from The Clintonians

Clintonians? Bush was a Clintonian? Who invaded Iraq in 2003? Who was it? Clinton? Was it President Bill Clinton who lied to America to invade Iraq in 2003?

Those Republicans on this forum who have read the Bush administration's declassified documents are not trying to argue in this thread anymore. Read the truth from the Bush administration. What the Bush administration said in public were lies, but their declassified documents show what they were really up to. They doctored the intelligence on Iraq's WMD capabilities to justify an otherwise unjustifiable invasion of Iraq in 2003.

George W. Bush lied to America and the world in 2003. Not Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton lied to bomb Iraq but didn't try to occupy it. Bush lied to invade and occupy Iraq.

This is what started the Iraq invasion.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.
The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:
1. committed various and significant violations of international law,
2. had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3. further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed 360-38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[4] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[5] US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998. The law's stated purpose was: "to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq." Specifically, Congress made findings of past Iraqi military actions in violation of International Law and that Iraq had denied entry of United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) inspectors into its country to inspect for weapons of mass destruction. Congress found: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime." On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

 

[BlindBoo]

And obviously the far left forgets that Carter got us involved with Saddam.

Saddam an honorary citizen of Detroit...

U.s. terrorist regime saddam's backer - By giving arms, intelligence a - General Politics and Current Issues - ShiaChat.com

In early 1979, the Shah of Iran, the U.S.'s loyal Persian Gulf gendarme, was overthrown. The U.S. Embassy in Teheran was seized by militant students in November, and a month later, on Christmas eve, the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan.

These developments shocked the U.S. establishment. They threatened to undermine its grip on the oil-rich Gulf, and possibly hand their Soviet rivals a major geopolitical gain. The U.S. counter-attacked, and one front (and there were many) seems to have been encouraging Iraq to invade Iran.

Not surprisingly, Carter administration officials deny they gave Iraq a "green light" for its September 22, 1980 invasion. Yet there is evidence that they did just that. On April 14, 1980, five months before Iraq's invasion, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Advisor, signaled the U.S.'s willingness to work with Iraq: "We see no fundamental incompatibility of interests between the United States and Iraq...we do not feel that American- Iraqi relations need to be frozen in antagonisms." In June, Iranian students revealed a secret memo from Brzezinski to then-Secretary of State Cyrus Vance recommending the "destabilization" of Iran's Islamic Republic via its neighbors.

he New York Times could also have delved into how the U.S. helped arm both Iran and Iraq, and then manipulated them in order to make sure neither won a decisive victory. In 1983, one U.S. official declared, "We don't give a damn as long as the Iran-Iraq carnage does not affect our allies or alter the balance of power." (Dilip Hiro, The Longest War, p. 121)

By 1982, the war's momentum had shifted to Iran, which was threatening Basra, Iraq's second largest city. According to a 1995 affidavit by Reagan National Security Council staffer Howard Teicher (which the U.S. government demanded the court seal for "national security" reasons), "In the Spring of 1982, Iraq teetered on the brink of losing its war with Iran.... In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States...would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran." (RealHistoryArchives.com)

Teicher states that after Reagan signed a secret National Security Directive in June 1982, "The United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required."

Anti-personnel cluster bombs were a U.S. favorite. "CIA Director [William] Casey was adamant that cluster bombs were a perfect `force multiplier,' for Iraq," Teicher states, and "the CIA authorized, approved and assisted Cardoen [the supplier] in the manufacture and sale of cluster bombs and other munitions to Iraq."

USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA..........

Iran was holding 44 American hostages. Arming their enemy seemed like an appropriate way to talk to them. It was anyone's guess as to the extent the US would be willing to arm Iraq. It was feasible that an Iraqi military could be created that would annihilate or cripple Iran. If we were decided to retaliate for any harm that might befall the hostages, the Iraqi's would become invaluable.

Best we rethink that enemy of my enemy is my friend bullshit too.......

 

[KNB]

You basically mean some of the same errors that were echoed from The Clintonians

Clintonians? Bush was a Clintonian? Who invaded Iraq in 2003? Who was it? Clinton? Was it President Bill Clinton who lied to America to invade Iraq in 2003?

Those Republicans on this forum who have read the Bush administration's declassified documents are not trying to argue in this thread anymore. Read the truth from the Bush administration. What the Bush administration said in public were lies, but their declassified documents show what they were really up to. They doctored the intelligence on Iraq's WMD capabilities to justify an otherwise unjustifiable invasion of Iraq in 2003.

George W. Bush lied to America and the world in 2003. Not Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton lied to bomb Iraq but didn't try to occupy it. Bush lied to invade and occupy Iraq.

This is what started the Iraq invasion.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.
The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:
1. committed various and significant violations of international law,
2. had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3. further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed 360-38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[4] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[5] US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998. The law's stated purpose was: "to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq." Specifically, Congress made findings of past Iraqi military actions in violation of International Law and that Iraq had denied entry of United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) inspectors into its country to inspect for weapons of mass destruction. Congress found: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime." On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

That's interesting. The Desert Crossing war game scenario of 1999 said that 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq would still not be able to create a functioning democracy.

And if Congress voted in 1998 to remove Saddam Hussein from power, why did the US wait another 5 years? Why was it only after the PNAC's "new Pearl Harbor" in New York did Bush lie to the world about Iraq's WMD capabilities to invade Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power?

And did George W. Bush follow the military's advice and put more than 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq, considering that the military said that 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq would NOT be enough to handle the quagmire created by Bush's lies?
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm

 

[GreenBean]

Clintonians? Bush was a Clintonian? Who invaded Iraq in 2003? Who was it? Clinton? Was it President Bill Clinton who lied to America to invade Iraq in 2003?

Those Republicans on this forum who have read the Bush administration's declassified documents are not trying to argue in this thread anymore. Read the truth from the Bush administration. What the Bush administration said in public were lies, but their declassified documents show what they were really up to. They doctored the intelligence on Iraq's WMD capabilities to justify an otherwise unjustifiable invasion of Iraq in 2003.

George W. Bush lied to America and the world in 2003. Not Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton lied to bomb Iraq but didn't try to occupy it. Bush lied to invade and occupy Iraq.

This is what started the Iraq invasion.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.
The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:
1. committed various and significant violations of international law,
2. had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3. further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed 360-38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[4] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[5] US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998. The law's stated purpose was: "to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq." Specifically, Congress made findings of past Iraqi military actions in violation of International Law and that Iraq had denied entry of United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) inspectors into its country to inspect for weapons of mass destruction. Congress found: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime." On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

That's interesting. The Desert Crossing war game scenario of 1999 said that 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq would still not be able to create a functioning democracy.

And if Congress voted in 1998 to remove Saddam Hussein from power, why did the US wait another 5 years? Why was it only after the PNAC's "new Pearl Harbor" in New York did Bush lie to the world about Iraq's WMD capabilities to invade Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power?

And did George W. Bush follow the military's advice and put more than 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq, considering that the military said that 400,000 US soldiers in Iraq would NOT be enough to handle the quagmire created by Bush's lies?
Post-Saddam Iraq: The War Game

[ame=http://youtu.be/S0f5u_0ytUs]Bill Clinton: Clear Evidence of Iraqi WMD Program - YouTube[/ame]

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." Slick Willy Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998-

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue a pace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002-

 

[KNB]

Bill Clinton invaded Iraq in 2003? Is this Bill Clinton lying to the UN?:

Who was US President when George W. Bush lied to the world to invade Iraq in 2003? Was it Clinton?

Youtube videos do not negate declassified government documents.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate
The Record on CURVEBALL

 

[Camp]

There are endless documents and video's showing Bush administration lies to scam us into the Iraq war. The whole world knows it was a scam. They whole world knows our President was a liar who lied to start a war.
The Bush administration defenders rely on two defenses.
First defense is that Saddam had WMD's in the past and at one time was attempting to develop more.
Second defense is that various politicians believed the administration lies and made supportive speeches to convince the public of the President's honesty and trustworthiness.
So, how does either of those defenses show Bush not to have started the war in Iraq by telling lies?

 

[KissMy]

Bush punished anyone who tried to tell the truth. His thug Richard Armitage who signed the PNAC plan to invade Iraq before 9/11/2001 is the one who outed Valerie Plame because her husband criticized the Bush administration's use of pre-Iraq war intelligence about "Yellowcake Uranium".

Armitage claimed that his disclosure to Novak of Plame's identity was offhand and that he "didn't put any big import on it," denying that he had deliberately outed Plame in an effort to discredit her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, a critic of the Bush administration's use of pre-Iraq war intelligence. According to the Associated Press, Armitage has also claimed that he did not know Plame was covert, and that "he assumed Plame's job was not a secret because it was included in a State Department memo." In his CBS News interview, Armitage acknowledged that the document was classified. According to a CBS News online article about the interview: "Armitage adds that while the document was classified, 'it doesn't mean that every sentence in the document is classified. I had never seen a covered agent's name in any memo in, I think, 28 years of government,' he says."

However, the paragraph from that 2003 memo mentioning Plame and her status as a CIA operative was reportedly marked "S" for secret. According to the New York Sun, a declassified copy of the memo, obtained by that newspaper, showed that she was identified specifically as a "CIA WMD manager." David Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and co-author of Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, the book that originally identified Armitage as Novak's source, revealed in a September 6 article for The Nation Plame's role at the CIA -- she was director of operations for the Joint Task Force on Iraq, a unit within the CIA's clandestine service responsible for investigating pre-war claims regarding Iraq's alleged WMD programs.

Given Plame's status within the CIA, Armitage's presumed sophistication on matters of intelligence and foreign policy, and Armitage's acknowledgment that he read the memo in which her identity is contained within a paragraph marked secret, it seems highly implausible that Armitage was not aware that Plame's identity was sensitive information. Plame and Wilson made this case in the civil suit they filed against White House senior adviser Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, which has since been updated to include Armitage.

 

[KissMy]

Bush refused to arrest terrorist in the USA & attack Bin Laden. Bush said Bin Laden is bluffing to distract us from Iraq. Bush knew Al Qaeda planned to suicide crash hijacked planes into the NYC buildings. Bush also knew when it would happen.

MAY 1998: Clinton appoints “counter-terrorism czar” Richard Clarke. After bin Laden’s fatwa, Clinton appoints Richard Clarke to head a cross-agency Counter-terrorism Security Group, and gives him a seat at the Cabinet-level Principals Committee. [9/11 Commission Report]

JUNE 8, 1998: Grand Jury indicts Bin Laden. He’s charged with “conspiracy to attack defense utilities of the United States.” [PBS]

AUGUST 12, 1998: Two simultaneous explosions at US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. [PBS]

AUGUST 20, 1998: Clinton orders missile attack in Sudan, narrowly misses Bin Laden. “The most dramatic attempt to kill bin Laden occurred in August 1998, when Clinton ordered a Tomahawk cruise missile attack on bin Laden’s suspected training camps in Afghanistan in response to the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Clinton approved the cruise missile attack recommended by his advisers, and on Aug. 20, 1998, 66 cruise missiles rained down on the training camps. An additional 13 missiles were fired at a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan that the Clinton administration believed was a chemical weapons factory associated with bin Laden.” [Washington Post]

SEPTEMBER 1998: CIA beings secret effort with Pakistani intelligence to capture or kill Bin Laden in Afghanistan. The CIA trained and equipped 60 comandos from the Pakistani intelligence agency. [Washington Post]

NOVEMBER 1998: Clinton authorizes covert action against Bin Laden and al Qaeda. In addition to a secret “finding” to authorize covert action, Clinton signed three highly classified Memoranda of Notification expanding the available tools. Clinton authorized killing instead of capturing bin Laden, then added several of al Qaeda’s senior lieutenants, and finally approved the shooting down of private civilian aircraft on which they flew. The Clinton administration ordered the Navy to maintain two Los-Angeles class attack submarines on permanent station in the nearest available waters, enabling the U.S. military to place Tomahawk cruise missiles on any target in Afghanistan within about six hours of receiving the order. [Washington Post]

OCTOBER 12, 1999: Joint effort with Pakistani government to capture Bin Laden aborted with the overthrow of then-Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. [Washington Post]

JANUARY 2000: Mihdhar and Hazmi both traveled to Los Angeles and then moved to San Diego, where they associated with a subject of an FBI investigation and also lived with a long-time FBI asset. Intelligence information developed by the CIA had already revealed that Mihdhar was a suspected al Qaeda operative. [Justice.gov]

MARCH 5, 2000: CIA Bangkok Station reported to CIA that terrorist Mihdhar and Hazmi had arrived in Los Angeles. The CIA monitored a meeting of top Al Qaeda operatives in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and then followed Khalid Al Mihdhar and Nawaf Al HazmiKhalid into the USA where they became lead hijackers of Flight 77. George Tenet, Cofer Black, Richard Blee & 48 other CIA officers all knew that the 9/11 hijacking al Qaeda terrorists were in the USA & where they were staying. [Justice.gov]

OCTOBER 12, 2000: U.S.S. Cole bombed.

NOVEMBER 2000: Sandy Berger tells his successor Condoleezza Rice “she’d be spending more time on terrorism and al Qaeda than any other issue.” [CNN]

LATE DECEMBER 2000: FBI & CIA source linked Hazmi and Mihdhar to the mastermind of the USS Cole attack. [Justice.gov]

JANUARY 25, 2001: Clarke memo to Bush Admin "Policy Initiative The Al-Qaeda Network" Attached was Clinton's comprehensive strategy to destroy Al Qaeda. Clarke wrote "Al Qaeda is not some narrow, little terrorist issue that needs to be included in broader regional policy." Al Qaeda is a large powerful network that comprehensive multi-regional policy must focus on & plan around. Key decisions must be made now concerning covert aid to keep the Northern Alliance alive when fighting began again in Afghanistan in the spring, and covert aid to the Uzbeks. Decisions should be made soon on messages to the Taliban and Pakistan over the al Qaeda sanctuary in Afghanistan, on possible new money for CIA operations, and on "when and how to respond to the attack on the USS Cole." Al Qaeda affects our policy on Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Africa, Central Asia, Morocco, Indonesia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Islam, Muslim World. The strength of the Al Qaeda Network destabilizes & limits the support from friendly Arab regimes. We would make a major error if we underestimate the challenge Al Qaeda poses. [Clarke Memo 1/25/2001]

JANUARY 2001: Condoleezza Rice demotes terrorism czar Richard Clarke out of Cabinet access. [9/11 Commission Report]

JANUARY 2001: During Bush’s first week in office, Richard Clarke requests cabinet level meeting on al Qaeda and Bin Laden. His request was denied. He did not get it - or permission to brief the president directly on the threat - for nearly eight months. [Washington Post]

JANUARY 29, 2001: 9 days after Bush was inaugurated Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil reports that “going after Saddam Huissein was Topic A.” [CBS News]

FEBRUARY 2001: CIA and FBI finally certify that al Qaeda was responsible for Cole Bombings. [Bill Clinton, Fox News]

MARCH 2001: “Federal Aviation officials reviewed dozens of intelligence reports that warned about Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, some of which specifically discussed airline hijackings and suicide operations"...“Federal Aviation Administration, despite being focused on risks of hijackings overseas, warned airports in the spring of 2001 that if ‘the intent of the hijacker is not to exchange hostages for prisoners, but to commit suicide in a spectacular explosion, a domestic hijacking would probably be preferable.’ "

The FAA had indeed considered the possibility that terrorists would hijack a plane and use it as a weapon. The FAA distributed a CD-ROM presentation to airlines and airports that "cited the possibility of a suicide hijacking" Aviation officials amassed so much information about the growing threat posed by terrorists that they conducted classified briefings for security officials at 19 of the nation's busiest airports to warn of the threat posed in particular by Mr. bin Laden, the report said." [NYT]

APRIL 2001: Bush administration finally has deputy-level cabinet meeting on al Qeada. Clarke writes, the meeting “did not go well.” Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, scowled and asked, “why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” When Clarke told him no foe but al Qaeda “poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States,” Wolfowitz said that "Iraqi terrorism posed at least as much of a danger." FBI and CIA representatives backed Clarke in saying they had no such evidence. [Washington Post]

MAY 1, 2001: The CIA Tenet & Black report to the White House stated “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. They asked for CIA authority to attack Al Qaeda & Bin Laden but Bush would not grant it. [NYT, CBS 60 Minutes & Tenet's Book]

JUNE 22, 2001: The presidents daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible. Neoconservative leaders at Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, who is a greater threat. Intelligence officials protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day. [NYT]

MAY 29, 2001: Four Bin Laden followers found guilty of murder at trial. Four followers of Osama bin Laden are found guilty of charges stemming from the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali, Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, Mohammed Saddiq Odeh, and Wadih El Hage are convicted of charges including murder, conspiracy and perjury after a nine-week federal trial during which prosecutors called over 90 witnesses, including al Qaeda informants and survivors of the bombings. Owhali and Mohamed face the death penalty at their sentencing, while Odeh and El Hage face life in prison. [PBS]

JUNE 29, 2001: Bush receives Presidential Daiy Brief entitled “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden” the document recited much of the evidence, including an interview that month with a Middle Eastern journalist in which Bin Laden aides warned of a coming attack, as well as competitive pressures that the terrorist leader was feeling, given the number of Islamists being recruited for the separatist Russian region of Chechnya. [NYT]

JUNE 2001: Bush give speech to NATO allies on top five defense issues, and the “only reference to extremists was in Macedonia.” [Washington Post]

JULY 9, 2001: The C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed June 29 2001. Operatives connected to Bin Laden, expected the planned near-term attacks to have “dramatic consequences,” including major casualties... Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counter-terrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counter-terrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else. [NYT]

JULY 10, 2001: Cofer Black and George Tenet met with Condoleezza Rice to inform her about communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. They asked for CIA authority to attack Al Qaeda & Bin Laden but Bush would not grant it. Rice listened but was unconvinced, having other priorities on which to focus. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld questioned the information suggesting it was a deception meant to gauge the U.S. response. [Washington Post, CBS 60 Minutes & Tenet's Book]

AUGUST 6, 2001: Bush receives Presidential Daiy Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” FBI information indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York. [National Archive]

SEPTEMBER 4, 2001: 8 months after Clarke demands Comprehensive Strategy to Fight Al-Qaeda, Bush finally holds the principals meeting to concoct an Al Qaeda strategy.

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001: Russian President Putin calls President Bush & says he is worried that Al Qaeda has just started it's international plot for a major attack.

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: Al-Qaeda attacks reach the USA. Prior to this attack Bush knew Who, What, Where. When, Why & How the attack would happen. Bush thought Bin Laden was bluffing to distract him from Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

Laura Bush's high-school friend Tommy Franks gave the order from the president for our US soldiers to stand down in Tora Bora, Afghanistan & let Afghans take the lead. The Afghans negotiate a ceasefire with Al Qaeda allowing Osama Bin Laden to escape. Bin laden was a Bush Sr. CIA Saudi asset. The Saudi's & Bush's were heavily invested in Oil & Military Contractors. Osama Bin Laden made them very rich with that attack & as long as he was alive, the war was alive. Project For A New American Century developed this plan to build up US defenses & increase government power taking our civil rights. Bush's General Tommy Franks said terrorist will "cause our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important."

Bush said he was not concerned with Osama Bin Laden any more & left him alone after he escaped.

We had to wait until Obama took office to get Osama Bin Laden. Obama has killed 10 times more Al-Qaeda Terrorist in his first term as Bush did in his 2 terms in office.

 

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Under the Bush administration a government employee sent anthrax to media & congress people who opposed Iraq war. That anthrax attack was used by the Bush administration as evidence & reason to attack Iraq.