John Edgar Slow Horses
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Only a MAGA in California could have thought this up.
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/——/ Because democRATs love to hold California up as a shinning example of the lib agenda. It’s what you want for the whole country.Why bitch if you don't live in CA? Nothing better to do, I guess.
No it’s because governor Grey Davis locked California in at high prices on long term contracts during the Enron scandal. And made electric utilities generating their own power illegal.Just have different electric tariffs based on income. So a low wage household gets a cheaper kWh electric tariff than a higher income household. Then people still have control over how much electric they wish to save or waste.
Is electric expensive in California because of renewables?
If we paid the highest rate of $128.00 a month it would be a reduction of almost $300.00 a month.If you earn more, you pay more.
That’s the basic idea behind sweeping changes proposed by California’s three largest power companies that will impact your electricity bill.
California Electricity Bills to Be Based on Income
- Households earning less than $28,000 a year would pay a fixed charge of $15 - $24 a month.
- Households with annual income from $28,000 – $69,000 would pay $20 - $30 a month.
- Households earning from $69,000 – $180,000 would pay $51 - $73 a month.
- Those with incomes above $180,000 would pay $85 - $128 a month.
I wouldn't suggest going out and spending any of that money. Sounds like there would be two charges in the new format, a fixed charge and a variable charge based on KWH usage. They're suggesting the KWH charge should be getting reduced by 33%. My guess is most bills will be going up.If we paid the highest rate of $128.00 a month it would be a reduction of almost $300.00 a month.
Last February the state fiddled with the electric rates and the bill was almost $1,000. Oops. They fixed it but that bill still stood.I wouldn't suggest going out and spending any of that money. Sounds like there would be two charges in the new format, a fixed charge and a variable charge based on KWH usage. They're suggesting the KWH charge should be glastetting reduced by 33%. My guess is most bills will be going up.
Yeah, that was what I was thinking. All the various fees and taxes and fixed charges are rolled into a single charge based on income, and you pay a KwH charge for how much you use. They can't possibly cover costs with a max $128/month.I wouldn't suggest going out and spending any of that money. Sounds like there would be two charges in the new format, a fixed charge and a variable charge based on KWH usage. They're suggesting the KWH charge should be getting reduced by 33%. My guess is most bills will be going up.
If I understand it correctly if you were to go down to your cellar or to your electric closet and throw the main breaker off for the entire month this is the bill you would still get in the mail for that month. It's not based on usage it's more of a connection fee. The rest of the bill would be predicated on the actual meter reading.Yeah, that was what I was thinking. All the various fees and taxes and fixed charges are rolled into a single charge based on income, and you pay a KwH charge for how much you use. They can't possibly cover costs with a max $128/month.
That wouldn't even cover the 9' high, teak double-doors in the executive offices at PGE, lol.
Right. It's just the monthly "connection fee". They roll all the taxes and fees into a single charge.If I understand it correctly if you were to go down to your cellar or to your electric closet and throw the main breaker off for the entire month this is the bill you would still get in the mail for that month. It's not based on usage it's more of a connection fee. The rest of the bill would be predicated on the actual meter reading.
Just have different electric tariffs based on income. So a low wage household gets a cheaper kWh electric tariff than a higher income household. Then people still have control over how much electric they wish to save or waste.
Is electric expensive in California because of renewables?
I was just looking about on Google -CA is the most expensive along with Massachusetts, but it has nothing at all to with renewables. I'm not sure what the actual reason is.
So the idea is to take from some people and then give it to other people. yea that is what socialism is.california is a socialist shithole
those california idiots proposing this rates are living in la la landYeah, that was what I was thinking. All the various fees and taxes and fixed charges are rolled into a single charge based on income, and you pay a KwH charge for how much you use. They can't possibly cover costs with a max $128/month.
That wouldn't even cover the 9' high, teak double-doors in the executive offices at PGE, lol.