Can Gun Nuts Please Stop Saying You Need Guns to Protect Yourself From A Potential Tyrannical Government!!!

[Lesh]

Me...none......you? You guys willingly allowed BLM and antifa to murder over 40 people during the 7 months the democrats ordered them to burn, loot and murder in black neighborhoods.....

Stop lying

 

[2aguy]

"A Well Regulated Militia being necessary"

Is how it begins. That clearly states the reason for the 2A

And has no control over the Independent clause of the Sentence........The Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

[GHook20]

No.

Can you stop using more than one repeated punctuation mark at the end of a sentence?

It makes you look illiterate.

haha good one even it is was a red herring.

 

[2aguy]

Stop lying

You are the leftist, not me......mass graves and murder are part of your movement, not mine...just look at the 7 month you shitheads burned, looted and murdered in black neighborhoods..........

 

[Soupnazi630]

"A Well Regulated Militia being necessary"

Is how it begins. That clearly states the reason for the 2A

No it does not state the reason it is intro only and the people is not limited to the militia.

end of story you lose

 

[GHook20]

You need to study some military history.

Old school militaries maybe, but modern militaries (even in Africa and Latin America) no anti-government group stands a chance to take down a government, much less the US government. There is no anti-military group in the world that has a chance to take down any governments at the moment, even in Africa! Guns back even in the mid-1900s could help take down a government, but in the 2020s not a chance!

 

[GHook20]

So how come Ukrainian citizens using personal firearms against Russians is admirable, but Americans wanting to be able to do the same thing makes us sound unhinged?


I'd rather have a small chance, than no chance at all. Partisans are extremely irritating and damaging to military forces.

That is a bad comparison. It is comparing apples to elephants. That is the Ukrainian people, with the Ukrainian government, Ukrainian military and being armed with military weapons from the West, are protecting their homeland.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

A “well regulated militia “ is described in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution

Go read it

In working order as to be expected is what Well regulated means. Gun control prevents well regulated.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Old school militaries maybe, but modern militaries (even in Africa and Latin America) no anti-government group stands a chance to take down a government, much less the US government. There is no anti-military group in the world that has a chance to take down any governments at the moment, even in Africa! Guns back even in the mid-1900s could help take down a government, but in the 2020s not a chance!

So you're the dumbass author

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That is a bad comparison. It is comparing apples to elephants. That is the Ukrainian people, with the Ukrainian government, Ukrainian military and being armed with military weapons from the West, are protecting their homeland.

At least they are armed with what ever they can get their hands on. So no dumbass it's not a bad comparison just because idiot you says so.

 

[Lesh]

In working order as to be expected is what Well regulated means. Gun control prevents well regulated.

You obviously didn’t bother to read article 1 section 8

Odd. I have posted it numerous times

 

[Lesh]

No it does not state the reason it is intro only and the people is not limited to the militia.

end of story you lose

So they just threw that in there for no purpose huh?

Bullshit

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You obviously didn’t bother to read article 1 section 8

Odd. I have posted it numerous times

I gave you the definition of what well regulated means maybe you should turn your study's toward 18th century vocabulary.

 

[GHook20]

It's impossible for a militia with small arms to defeat a modern standing army ...

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Again that is the 1960s and 1970s... that is NOT now,

 

[GHook20]

Look around. It's lefties like yourself who seem to dwell on big government and revolution these days. The jan 6 people were unarmed.

haha... not a lefty and I desire small government. In addition, I see Jan 6 for what it is, a kangaroo court and corruption of the Demorat party

 

[woodwork201]

Can Gun Nuts Please Stop Saying You Need Guns to Protect Yourself From A Potential Tyrannical Government!!!​

Denied.

 

[woodwork201]

It makes you sound mentally challenged.

Having guns is not going to protect you from the police or military. With normal police equipment, SWAT teams, police tactics and fire power etc, they can easily neutralize any armed threat or movement. They wouldn't even break a sweat. Not to mention, police surveillance tactics will make it impossible for an anti-government group to organize a big enough threat to the regime. You don't have a chance. And that is only the police. Your little AR-15 isn't going to do anything to a drone, tank, apache helicopter, fighter jet or combat unit (much less special forces). There is a reason you have not seen a people's uprising to over-throw a government even in Africa in decade. And really only Sudan has been overthrown by a military coup.

No, the only reason you want certain guns (such as a AR-15) is because you like to have them.

It is true the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and good people, including AR-15 owners. But that 1% or 0.05% that are not responsible can cause havoc, as we just saw in Highland park (an event I was on my way to attend and an event to which I know many people that were directly effected).

If you want to hunt, then a single shot hunting rifle will suffice. If it is about home defense, then handguns and shotguns (which as both short-range) would be sufficient.

There are many things that can be done, such as arm teachers, have cops in schools, secure soft targets, better mental health facilities, red flag rules and immunity for snitching, involuntary institutionalization, high standards for gun ownership, higher and minimum sentences for illegal gun possession, Federal no buy lists, vicarious liability for guns for the gun owner etc., but stop with the argument that you need guns for tyrannical governments! Because it is foolish.

There should be a ban on all guns other then single shot hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns.

Now I know handguns are by far the weapon of choice in the vast number of homicides, but so called "assault rifles" (yes I know that is a term the liberals made up) it by far a more sufficient weapon to commit mass murder then a handgun, even if they are semi-automatic (vs full).

Keep sticking to these stances that turn off the moderates (e.g. ban on abortion and do nothing on guns) and then cry about how Demorats can win with gas over $5-6, out of control inflation, major blunders in foreign policy and everyone hating woke politics. If the Demorats keep the House and pick up senate seats you are going to see the most radical changes to this country that we haver ever seen.

This is a pretty new thread and I'm already 24 pages behind so I am sure this has been said but let me pile on.

All of the police, all of the military, are nothing in numbers compared to the numbers of trained gun owners, veterans, and others. Your claim that the government could not be beaten is absurd unless you support Biden's plan to nuke his own people. So the numbers and the weapons are meaningless.

The deep state intelligence and spy networks are also meaningless. If the left tries to overthrow the people or the Constitution, I have no need to coordinate or plan with others. I know my part: take out more of the enemy than they do of me. By attrition, the Constitution wins.

Don't worry; the Constitution is safe. Tyranny is not.

 

[woodwork201]

haha... not a lefty and I desire small government. In addition, I see Jan 6 for what it is, a kangaroo court and corruption of the Demorat party

You're an anti-constitutional gun grabber. It doesn't get more lefty than that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

WTF drugs are you on?

Hate site?

Fuck off

That's all you do - post talking points from Nazi hate sites like DailyKOS, CNN, DemocraticUnderground etc.

Obviously some moron said "Article 1, section 8."

You had no clue that there is loads of information in section 8, but only a couple of sentences regarding calling up the militia in times of war - which in no way supports the bullshit you were trying to peddle.

Because you've never read the constitution and didn't bother to read the portion the hate site referenced so you were caught off guard when I posted the actual text and it had nothing to do with your claims.

You just blindly and mindlessly post anything the hate sites tell you to.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And the funniest thing here is that not only does the Constitution describe what a well regulated militia is and how it is made up in Article 1 Section 8...not only does it describe it's USES...one of which is to put DOWN insurrections...

This moron is trying to argue that away by claiming Shay's Rebellion didn't matter because it happened before the Constitution was written (by a few months...so clearly in the minds of the writers of it)...while

IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE MILITIA ALSO PUT DOWN THE WHISKEY REBELLION WELL AFTER THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED...RENDERING THAT ENTIRE ARGUMENT MOOT.

Really stupid?

How many casualties on each side?