Can republicans at least admit Obama was a man of class and dignity regardless of his policies?

[SmokeALib]

NO.

 

[Billy000]

Oh no, I meant Rump. You described him perfectly.

Well maybe not perfectly; you didn't really go into the eggshell-thin adolescent ego whiny-thingy or all the divisive trolling BS, but you covered it pretty well.

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

Not under any goading by Trump as they did under Obama. Trump has the respect of many sane black leaders, including MLK's niece, Alveda King. Obama enabled racial strife and hatred of police. Trump discourages both.

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

I didn't claim that Obama is directly connected to the formation of BLM. He IS connected to the increase in the hatred that blacks have for police. His blaming the Ferguson police fueled the fire generated by the "hands up, don't shoot" slogan that was initiated based on a lie about what happened when the raging bull was shot dead by a white policeman.

It is asinine to claim that Trump controls the hate crime rate. None of his policies promote hate crimes. When racial strife is deliberately enabled by any President, the tension goes up on both sides. Obama exacerbated black hatred of white people which drove white supremacists (another group of goons) to become even more vocal. It is no wonder that hate crimes have risen since Obama took sides. Both sides need admonishment. If Obama claims credit for the economic growth after he left office, he should also take blame for the hate crime growth as well. The rise started under his watch. It feeds on itself just like a malignant cancer.

If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should support the tarring and feathering of Rahm Emanuel, the black Mayor of Chicago that refuses to quell the black on black killings in that shithole city. If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should wholeheartedly support the police in their effort to enforce laws designed to protect ALL people.

Hold the fucking phone. So Obama takes a side on the Ferguson incident and that somehow means he, by himself, significantly worsened race relations? That’s it? That’s your only evidence? Perhaps from the beginning you were looking for any excuse to tie Obama to race relations. You’ll settle on anything apparently.

What you say about Trump in comparison is such hypocrisy that it blows my mind. You are asking for POLICY examples as proof of Trump worsening race relations but Obama simply SAYING something is proof when the shoe is on the other foot? So nothing Trump SAYS has anything to do with worsening race relations? How about his rhetoric about Mexicans? How about him inciting violence at his rallies? How about him saying “there were good people on both sides” as his response to a white supremacist killing someone? How about him appointing Steve Bannon? Did Obama ever appoint someone so controversial to racial issues? No of course not.

You people are such hypocrites that it’s nauseating.

 

[asaratis]

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

Not under any goading by Trump as they did under Obama. Trump has the respect of many sane black leaders, including MLK's niece, Alveda King. Obama enabled racial strife and hatred of police. Trump discourages both.

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

I didn't claim that Obama is directly connected to the formation of BLM. He IS connected to the increase in the hatred that blacks have for police. His blaming the Ferguson police fueled the fire generated by the "hands up, don't shoot" slogan that was initiated based on a lie about what happened when the raging bull was shot dead by a white policeman.

It is asinine to claim that Trump controls the hate crime rate. None of his policies promote hate crimes. When racial strife is deliberately enabled by any President, the tension goes up on both sides. Obama exacerbated black hatred of white people which drove white supremacists (another group of goons) to become even more vocal. It is no wonder that hate crimes have risen since Obama took sides. Both sides need admonishment. If Obama claims credit for the economic growth after he left office, he should also take blame for the hate crime growth as well. The rise started under his watch. It feeds on itself just like a malignant cancer.

If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should support the tarring and feathering of Rahm Emanuel, the black Mayor of Chicago that refuses to quell the black on black killings in that shithole city. If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should wholeheartedly support the police in their effort to enforce laws designed to protect ALL people.

This and the NFL thing is about police brutality toward blacks duh.

Some of the alleged brutality is fake news, as in the Ferguson incident, Obama's statement in another case that "the police acted stupidly" and others that I'd have to research to cite specifics. I do not deny that police brutality exists. I do contend that much of it is precipitated by refusal by suspects to DO WHAT THE OFFICERS TELL THEM TO DO and their insistence upon resisting arrest, running from officers, attacking officers, threatening officers and otherwise raising the level of confrontation. All resulting violence is then tagged as police brutality. The man who said "I can't breathe" would be alive today had he done what he was told to do instead of refusing the arresting officer's initial commands.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You mean WAS in the Whitehouse. Obama is no longer in the Whitehouse, and your confusion of past and present tense doesn't change my point.

Oh no, I meant Rump. You described him perfectly.

Well maybe not perfectly; you didn't really go into the eggshell-thin adolescent ego whiny-thingy or all the divisive trolling BS, but you covered it pretty well.

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

Not under any goading by Trump as they did under Obama. Trump has the respect of many sane black leaders, including MLK's niece, Alveda King. Obama enabled racial strife and hatred of police. Trump discourages both.

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

"President Barack Obama told national civil rights leaders he wanted to see protests in Ferguson, Mo., “staying on course” in the lead-up to the highly anticipated grand jury ruling on the fate of police officer Darren Wilson.

When Obama met with a group of civil rights activists including Rev. Al Sharpton at the White House on Nov. 5, the day after his party’s defeat in the midterm elections, he expressed his commitment to keeping the protests in Ferguson “on course.”

Sharpton said Obama “was concerned about Ferguson staying on course in terms of pursuing what it was that he knew we were advocating. He said he hopes that we’re doing all we can to keep peace,” according to the 21st paragraph of a New York Times article."
What Obama Told Sharpton About Ferguson


http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/obama-tells-ferguson-protesters-to-stay-the-course/

 

[JimH52]

Do

Wrong! Obama was (at best) always a classless thug who delighted in appointing other classless thugs to the Nation's highest offices and lied to the public constantly. But what else would anyone expect from and admitted drug user and "community organizer".

Back off MF.....he never used the hard stuff which is more than can be said about the Dumbassed George W. Bush!!

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

Someone who lies every other sentence, tramples our rights, steals from the American people, and helps our enemies, has neither class nor dignity.

So let's hear a lie from Obama that was not a prediction that was blocked.... Silly dupe. Pure brainwashed right-wing idiocy....

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowingly speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him a liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Very true. This president began by lying about his inauguration crowd size and he hasn't let up. I think the count is over 5 lies per day, not lies concerning unkept promises or discarded policies, but deliberate lies to mislead...and yet his cult cannot see what a liar he is. They are amazingly gullible.

 

[Pogo]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

Someone who lies every other sentence, tramples our rights, steals from the American people, and helps our enemies, has neither class nor dignity.

And yet, there he is in the White House.

Go figure.

You mean WAS in the Whitehouse. Obama is no longer in the Whitehouse, and your confusion of past and present tense doesn't change my point.

Oh no, I meant Rump. You described him perfectly.

Well maybe not perfectly; you didn't really go into the eggshell-thin adolescent ego whiny-thingy or all the divisive trolling BS, but you covered it pretty well.

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

I don't "follow" anything. I don't have television because I don't want it around me.

It's a far far journey to a universe of Unreality where Rump is anything BUT divisive. Virtually everything he says at any moment of the day or night is exactly about "losers" and "low energy" and "blood coming out of her wherever" and "they're laughing at us" and "ruining America" and "beat the crap out of him" and "tapped my wires" and "rapists" and shooting people and "terrible ratings" and mocking a reporter's congenital disability because he wouldn't lie for him and "I like people who weren't captured" and "how stupid are the people of Iowa" and "corrupt" and "shithole" and "Pocahontas" and "fake news" and "dishonest" and "third rate" and "weak" and "fire the sumbitches" and "lightweight" and "badly bleeding from a facelift" and "Miss Piggy" and many MANY more targeting everything from the Fourth Estate of the Free Press military veterans to Supreme Court justices to entire countries to entire continents to the CHICAGO FREAKING CUBS and oh yeah the election was "rigged" and featured "three million illegals".

These are the incoherent tantrumps (hee hee just invented that) of a petulant child whose emotional maturity was arrested around the age of eight, who's been handed everything all his life and who whines and stomps his feet whenever he doesn't get his way. And this is still going on in his seventies. He's a gross embarrassment to everything remotely associated with him and due to some very bad mass judgment that now includes all of us.

Of course that's only the tip of the iceberg but do go ahead and show the class a similar list of negative turd-flinging from O'bama. Or a shorter list. Or such a list from any President of any time, ever. Or from any human ever, anywhere.

Nothing, in any milieu, in any place in any time, is accomplished by rampant negativity. That is, nothing but division, which is the one thing the Orangutan has achieved, including outright manifestations of violence both before and after the election. Oh yeah Be proud of that. And needless to say he doesn't personally take part in any of that violence --- he just trolls others to do it for him. Kind of the same way he got others to engage Vietnam for him while he held down the fort defending New York sex clubs. Kind of the same way he got investors to take the fall for him when his ill-advised egocentric edifice complex business ventures failed. Kind of the way he got his Fraud University marks to pony up to buy "feelings".

The irony of all this of course is that Rump in his mendacity describes himself as a "builder", while spending literally all the time his mouth is open, which is about 23 hours a day, not in constructing, but DEstructing.

I will never understand people who willingly line up to get themselves manipulated, and then line up again and ask for more.

Here's a fun game: Match the Rump insult with the country he insulted

 

[Pogo]

And yet, there he is in the White House.

Go figure.

You mean WAS in the Whitehouse. Obama is no longer in the Whitehouse, and your confusion of past and present tense doesn't change my point.

Oh no, I meant Rump. You described him perfectly.

Well maybe not perfectly; you didn't really go into the eggshell-thin adolescent ego whiny-thingy or all the divisive trolling BS, but you covered it pretty well.

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

They haven't, Obama and the leftist establishment had black people parading the streets, demanding dead cops, and were rejecting white people entirely. The result of that is the all of, I don't know, 1000(?) white supremacists getting significantly louder as they defect from the left.

Whoa wait ---- you actually think you can sit on this board and suggest white supremacists come from the "LEFT"?

This is the same "left" this board constantly whines about for its sympathy for equality and diversity as regards gay people and Muslims and Hispanics and blacks and immigrants and women?

Or is there perhaps a second "left" that means the opposite of itself?

David Duke rates your post

 

[Andylusion]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

I never heard Obama berate someone over their looks, their height, their intellect, or their beliefs. The same cannot be said of the Slug in Chief...

So your entire definition of 'classy' is whether or not they berate someone over their looks, their height, their intellect, or their beliefs?

Are you seriously making that claim? Because that definition of 'classy' might possibly work for Obama, but you have implicated just about 99% of all the left-wingers in this entire country, and most certainly 100% of the left-wingers on this forum. I can't think of a single lefty here who has not engaged in the actions you claimed.

Let it be known: According to JimH, all the left-wingers on this forum, and thus far everywhere in the country, are all inelegant uncultivated baboons. By his own standard, this judgement is made.

 

[asaratis]

Only if you closely follow CNN, in which case your beliefs and reality are totally different from each other.

It's funny that you're accusing him of everything Obama was guilty of. Race relations got drastically worse during Obama's presidency, yet you accuse Trump of being the divisive one.

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

Not under any goading by Trump as they did under Obama. Trump has the respect of many sane black leaders, including MLK's niece, Alveda King. Obama enabled racial strife and hatred of police. Trump discourages both.

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

I didn't claim that Obama is directly connected to the formation of BLM. He IS connected to the increase in the hatred that blacks have for police. His blaming the Ferguson police fueled the fire generated by the "hands up, don't shoot" slogan that was initiated based on a lie about what happened when the raging bull was shot dead by a white policeman.

It is asinine to claim that Trump controls the hate crime rate. None of his policies promote hate crimes. When racial strife is deliberately enabled by any President, the tension goes up on both sides. Obama exacerbated black hatred of white people which drove white supremacists (another group of goons) to become even more vocal. It is no wonder that hate crimes have risen since Obama took sides. Both sides need admonishment. If Obama claims credit for the economic growth after he left office, he should also take blame for the hate crime growth as well. The rise started under his watch. It feeds on itself just like a malignant cancer.

If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should support the tarring and feathering of Rahm Emanuel, the black Mayor of Chicago that refuses to quell the black on black killings in that shithole city. If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should wholeheartedly support the police in their effort to enforce laws designed to protect ALL people.

Hold the fucking phone. So Obama takes a side on the Ferguson incident and that somehow means he, by himself, significantly worsened race relations? That’s it? That’s your only evidence? Perhaps from the beginning you were looking for any excuse to tie Obama to race relations. You’ll settle on anything apparently.

What you say about Trump in comparison is such hypocrisy that it blows my mind. You are asking for POLICY examples as proof of Trump worsening race relations but Obama simply SAYING something is proof when the shoe is on the other foot? So nothing Trump SAYS has anything to do with worsening race relations? How about his rhetoric about Mexicans? How about him inciting violence at his rallies? How about him saying “there were good people on both sides” as his response to a white supremacist killing someone? How about him appointing Steve Bannon? Did Obama ever appoint someone so controversial to racial issues? No of course not.

You people are such hypocrites that it’s nauseating.

It is the Democrat Party that perpetuates the welfare plantation where Negroes pick up checks instead of cotton. It is the Democrat Party that promotes gangs, thugs and fatherless homes by promising single mother welfare whores payments for each child they have as long as there is no man in the household. It is the Democrat Party that offers blacks trinkets in exchange for votes. It is the Democrat Party that consciously works at nurturing black disenchantment and the perpetual victim posture. It is the Democrat Party that ignores the moral obligation to reduce black on black violence and firearm murders in order to promote gun control as a solution. The Democrat Party is NOT the friend of the black community except as required to garner their votes.

Barack Obama is a racist prick. Michelle Obama is a racist prick. Louis Farrakhan is a racist prick. Jesse Jackson is a racist prick. Al Sharpton is a racist prick. Jeremiah Wright is a racist prick. There are many others in their midst...all so-called black leaders. They perpetuate and promote racism through their actions and words.

Top 10 Racist African-Americans

Obama is without a doubt the most racist President of my entire lifetime.

Ben Stein: Obama ‘most racist president’ in American history

 

[asaratis]

Do

Back off MF.....he never used the hard stuff which is more than can be said about the Dumbassed George W. Bush!!

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

So let's hear a lie from Obama that was not a prediction that was blocked.... Silly dupe. Pure brainwashed right-wing idiocy....

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowingly speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him a liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Very true. This president began by lying about his inauguration crowd size and he hasn't let up. I think the count is over 5 lies per day, not lies concerning unkept promises or discarded policies, but deliberate lies to mislead...and yet his cult cannot see what a liar he is. They are amazingly gullible.

Lying about crowd size is merely exaggerating the truth or political boasting. It is NOTHING compared to lying about Benghazi or knowledge of private email servers being used for government business.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

I don't "follow" anything. I don't have television because I don't want it around me.

Yet you somehow get fed so much fake news, the exact same fake news the other leftists on this forum get fed. You need to watch what you read, then<3

It's a far far journey to a universe of Unreality where Rump is anything BUT divisive. Virtually everything he says at any moment of the day or night is exactly about "losers" and "low energy" and "blood coming out of her wherever" and "they're laughing at us" and "ruining America" and "beat the crap out of him" and "tapped my wires" and "rapists" and shooting people and "terrible ratings" and mocking a reporter's congenital disability because he wouldn't lie for him and "I like people who weren't captured" and "how stupid are the people of Iowa" and "corrupt" and "shithole" and "Pocahontas" and "fake news" and "dishonest" and "third rate" and "weak" and "fire the sumbitches" and "lightweight" and "badly bleeding from a facelift" and "Miss Piggy" and many MANY more targeting everything from the Fourth Estate of the Free Press military veterans to Supreme Court justices to entire countries to entire continents to the CHICAGO FREAKING CUBS and oh yeah the election was "rigged" and featured "three million illegals".

Making those statements once doesn't make everything he says those things. Really, you show more signs of listening to what you're told rather than actually listening to Trump to better understand what you're resisting. Although, the "ruining America" statement was on point, Socialists ruin every nation, and that's what the left is becoming. Not his fault for being on point. Although, some of what you listed was simply alleged, you choosing to believe it doesn't mean it's a thing that actually happened, nor does ranting about it.

These are the incoherent tantrumps (hee hee just invented that) of a petulant child whose emotional maturity was arrested around the age of eight, who's been handed everything all his life and who whines and stomps his feet whenever he doesn't get his way. And this is still going on in his seventies. He's a gross embarrassment to everything remotely associated with him and due to some very bad mass judgment that now includes all of us.

Wasn't really handed everything, he does have to run his own business. Besides that, your wall of text just amounts to more whining.

Of course that's only the tip of the iceberg but do go ahead and show the class a similar list of negative turd-flinging from O'bama. Or a shorter list. Or such a list from any President of any time, ever. Or from any human ever, anywhere.

I've already posted a list of Obama's infractions on the constitution(A List of Obama’s Constitutional Violations | From the Trenches World Report). He also has no idea how many states are in the US(57, ha.) He also encouraged illegals to vote, and nothing is quite as 'childish' as the amount of economic illiteracy displayed by Obama and his supporters.

Nothing, in any milieu, in any place in any time, is accomplished by rampant negativity. That is, nothing but division, which is the one thing the Orangutan has achieved, including outright manifestations of violence both before and after the election. Oh yeah Be proud of that. And needless to say he doesn't personally take part in any of that violence --- he just trolls others to do it for him. Kind of the same way he got others to engage Vietnam for him while he held down the fort defending New York sex clubs. Kind of the same way he got investors to take the fall for him when his ill-advised egocentric edifice complex business ventures failed. Kind of the way he got his Fraud University marks to pony up to buy "feelings".

Yet he united enough people to win over the person promising to continue Obama's legacy.

we saw, and continue to see, more violence from the left than anyone else, in the form of ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and third wave feminism.

The irony of all this of course is that Rump in his mendacity describes himself as a "builder", while spending literally all the time his mouth is open, which is about 23 hours a day, not in constructing, but DEstructing.

All he has destructed is the the left. Their behavior is losing them support the longer this goes on. Not only that, but their behavior is driving people to support Trump.

I will never understand people who willingly line up to get themselves manipulated, and then line up again and ask for more.

The irony of that statement is probably lost on you.

 

[Lakhota]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

I doubt many of them will - but I certainly will admit that. President Obama was a class act. However, I've always believed that Hillary should have been president first and him VP - and later become president himself after serving eight years as Hillary's VP.

 

[Snouter]

Always good to get the racist dupe Outlook...

First of all, Hussaine was the most racist President in history. Second, are you denying he is at least half African, specifically Kenyan? As far as race, he probably has some Arab blood also since Muslims would rape and murder when the spread the word of mohammad.

 

[william the wie]

why solicit lies, OP

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

However, I've always believed that Hillary should have been president first and him VP - and later become president himself

Why is that, he wasn't corrupt enough for you???

 

[Lakhota]

However, I've always believed that Hillary should have been president first and him VP - and later become president himself

Why is that, he wasn't corrupt enough for you???

No, until all the peckerwood racists got some of their bigotry and venom out their systems while he was VP for eight years.

It ain't rocket science...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hold the fucking phone. So Obama takes a side on the Ferguson incident and that somehow means he, by himself, significantly worsened race relations? That’s it? That’s your only evidence? Perhaps from the beginning you were looking for any excuse to tie Obama to race relations. You’ll settle on anything apparently.

Let me ask, when did DumBama ever stick his nose in a local situation between two whites or two blacks? The only time he made a local incident into a national incident is when it involved a white and black person which he took sides with.

Did Obama ever appoint someone so controversial to racial issues? No of course not.

I guess the name Eric Holder doesn't ring a bell then.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Do

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Forgetting to do something is not the same as lying about your intention to do it.

Getting the weather forecast wrong is a failed prediction of something over which nobody has control whereas lying about ObamaCare is a misrepresentation of a bill crafted by the liar.

The mother's having to work late was unknown to her when she made the promise to her son. She did not lie to him. She was victim of something that was outside of her control...as was the weather to the forecaster.

An analogy is a comparison between two objects, or systems of objects, that highlights respects in which they are thought to be similar.

Your attempted analogies are invalid because there is no reasonable similarity between describing what you have written into a proposed bill and happenings over which you have no control.

If Trump says, "I will build a wall" and congress doesn't provide funds or Obama says "you can keep your doctor", and the resulting law forces people to change doctors, neither man lied unless he knew when he made the promise that he could not deliver. If we all applied the same rules we use for judging politicians to our own lies, most of us would be judged liars a dozen times a day.

The difference is that DumBama knew that you couldn't keep your doctor right from the beginning. It was in the bill itself.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Do

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

That's not why the best people stay out of politics.

Here is why good people stay out of politics:

Mitt Romney was heavily criticized because in high school, he tackled a kid and gave him a hair cut. He went on vacation and tied his dog carrier to the top of his SUV as if it was torturing the animal. The media lied about his involvement with a worker at a company he helped recover claiming that his wife died because Romney cut their insurance plan. He has a car elevator in his home as if that was some sort of crime.

During the Trump presidential run, they exposed a stupid comment he made over ten years earlier about grabbing women when he had no idea he was being recorded. They accused him of hiring prostitutes to urinate on Obama's hotel bed. They lied about a discrimination lawsuit that he fought until the very end. They accused him of entering a female dressing room to get a peek at Miss America contestants.

During the Bush run, the MSM accused Bush of deserting his military service with no proof whatsoever. They accused him of using cocaine with no evidence whatsoever. They made movies against him, wrote books against him, and even had a video game created where the object was to kill President Bush. They even went 20 years before his run to point out he had a DUI which he paid the fine for and was released.

This is why good people stay out of politics. And as long as we pay attention to garbage like this, it will be the reason good people in the future don't run.

First off, those people did not stay out of politics and second, they certainly are not good by any stretch of the imagination.

I guess you missed the point entirely.

The reason good people don't go into politics is because what did happen to the people I listed. WTF would want that done to them? If they didn't mind themselves, what about when their family is attacked?

Your response is a perfect example. What do you mean Romney was not good by any stretch of the imagination? He was never involved in any scandals, never touched a cigarette, never touched a drink, never went near recreational narcotics. He is a religious man who shared his wealth with his church. He only had one wife, raised a beautiful family, and probably never had so much as an outstanding parking ticket in his life. I don't care for the RINO myself or his policies, but the last thing anybody could honestly say is that he is not a good man.

 

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I don't "follow" anything. I don't have television because I don't want it around me.

Yet you somehow get fed so much fake news, the exact same fake news the other leftists on this forum get fed. You need to watch what you read, then<3

It's a far far journey to a universe of Unreality where Rump is anything BUT divisive. Virtually everything he says at any moment of the day or night is exactly about "losers" and "low energy" and "blood coming out of her wherever" and "they're laughing at us" and "ruining America" and "beat the crap out of him" and "tapped my wires" and "rapists" and shooting people and "terrible ratings" and mocking a reporter's congenital disability because he wouldn't lie for him and "I like people who weren't captured" and "how stupid are the people of Iowa" and "corrupt" and "shithole" and "Pocahontas" and "fake news" and "dishonest" and "third rate" and "weak" and "fire the sumbitches" and "lightweight" and "badly bleeding from a facelift" and "Miss Piggy" and many MANY more targeting everything from the Fourth Estate of the Free Press military veterans to Supreme Court justices to entire countries to entire continents to the CHICAGO FREAKING CUBS and oh yeah the election was "rigged" and featured "three million illegals".

Making those statements once doesn't make everything he says those things. Really, you show more signs of listening to what you're told rather than actually listening to Trump to better understand what you're resisting. Although, the "ruining America" statement was on point, Socialists ruin every nation, and that's what the left is becoming. Not his fault for being on point. Although, some of what you listed was simply alleged, you choosing to believe it doesn't mean it's a thing that actually happened, nor does ranting about it.

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

These are the incoherent tantrumps (hee hee just invented that) of a petulant child whose emotional maturity was arrested around the age of eight, who's been handed everything all his life and who whines and stomps his feet whenever he doesn't get his way. And this is still going on in his seventies. He's a gross embarrassment to everything remotely associated with him and due to some very bad mass judgment that now includes all of us.

Wasn't really handed everything, he does have to run his own business. Besides that, your wall of text just amounts to more whining.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

Of course that's only the tip of the iceberg but do go ahead and show the class a similar list of negative turd-flinging from O'bama. Or a shorter list. Or such a list from any President of any time, ever. Or from any human ever, anywhere.

I've already posted a list of Obama's infractions on the constitution(A List of Obama’s Constitutional Violations | From the Trenches World Report). He also has no idea how many states are in the US(57, ha.) He also encouraged illegals to vote, and nothing is quite as 'childish' as the amount of economic illiteracy displayed by Obama and his supporters.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

Nothing, in any milieu, in any place in any time, is accomplished by rampant negativity. That is, nothing but division, which is the one thing the Orangutan has achieved, including outright manifestations of violence both before and after the election. Oh yeah Be proud of that. And needless to say he doesn't personally take part in any of that violence --- he just trolls others to do it for him. Kind of the same way he got others to engage Vietnam for him while he held down the fort defending New York sex clubs. Kind of the same way he got investors to take the fall for him when his ill-advised egocentric edifice complex business ventures failed. Kind of the way he got his Fraud University marks to pony up to buy "feelings".

Yet he united enough people to win over the person promising to continue Obama's legacy.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

we saw, and continue to see, more violence from the left than anyone else, in the form of ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and third wave feminism.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

The irony of all this of course is that Rump in his mendacity describes himself as a "builder", while spending literally all the time his mouth is open, which is about 23 hours a day, not in constructing, but DEstructing.

All he has destructed is the the left. Their behavior is losing them support the longer this goes on. Not only that, but their behavior is driving people to support Trump.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?



How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".
  
• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".
  
• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.
  
• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".
  
• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".
  
• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.
  
• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"
  
• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.
  
• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"
  
• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.
  
• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"
  
• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.
• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

THAT's what you can't give me. Because it doesn't exist.