Can republicans at least admit Obama was a man of class and dignity regardless of his policies?

[francoHFW]

Do

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowingly speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him a liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Very true. This president began by lying about his inauguration crowd size and he hasn't let up. I think the count is over 5 lies per day, not lies concerning unkept promises or discarded policies, but deliberate lies to mislead...and yet his cult cannot see what a liar he is. They are amazingly gullible.

Lying about crowd size is merely exaggerating the truth or political boasting. It is NOTHING compared to lying about Benghazi or knowledge of private email servers being used for government business.

The only people lying about Benghazi are GOP, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Wait hold on. Do you think race relations did not worsen under Trump?

Not under any goading by Trump as they did under Obama. Trump has the respect of many sane black leaders, including MLK's niece, Alveda King. Obama enabled racial strife and hatred of police. Trump discourages both.

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

I didn't claim that Obama is directly connected to the formation of BLM. He IS connected to the increase in the hatred that blacks have for police. His blaming the Ferguson police fueled the fire generated by the "hands up, don't shoot" slogan that was initiated based on a lie about what happened when the raging bull was shot dead by a white policeman.

It is asinine to claim that Trump controls the hate crime rate. None of his policies promote hate crimes. When racial strife is deliberately enabled by any President, the tension goes up on both sides. Obama exacerbated black hatred of white people which drove white supremacists (another group of goons) to become even more vocal. It is no wonder that hate crimes have risen since Obama took sides. Both sides need admonishment. If Obama claims credit for the economic growth after he left office, he should also take blame for the hate crime growth as well. The rise started under his watch. It feeds on itself just like a malignant cancer.

If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should support the tarring and feathering of Rahm Emanuel, the black Mayor of Chicago that refuses to quell the black on black killings in that shithole city. If BLM cares so much for black lives, they should wholeheartedly support the police in their effort to enforce laws designed to protect ALL people.

Hold the fucking phone. So Obama takes a side on the Ferguson incident and that somehow means he, by himself, significantly worsened race relations? That’s it? That’s your only evidence? Perhaps from the beginning you were looking for any excuse to tie Obama to race relations. You’ll settle on anything apparently.

What you say about Trump in comparison is such hypocrisy that it blows my mind. You are asking for POLICY examples as proof of Trump worsening race relations but Obama simply SAYING something is proof when the shoe is on the other foot? So nothing Trump SAYS has anything to do with worsening race relations? How about his rhetoric about Mexicans? How about him inciting violence at his rallies? How about him saying “there were good people on both sides” as his response to a white supremacist killing someone? How about him appointing Steve Bannon? Did Obama ever appoint someone so controversial to racial issues? No of course not.

You people are such hypocrites that it’s nauseating.

It is the Democrat Party that perpetuates the welfare plantation where Negroes pick up checks instead of cotton. It is the Democrat Party that promotes gangs, thugs and fatherless homes by promising single mother welfare whores payments for each child they have as long as there is no man in the household. It is the Democrat Party that offers blacks trinkets in exchange for votes. It is the Democrat Party that consciously works at nurturing black disenchantment and the perpetual victim posture. It is the Democrat Party that ignores the moral obligation to reduce black on black violence and firearm murders in order to promote gun control as a solution. The Democrat Party is NOT the friend of the black community except as required to garner their votes.

Barack Obama is a racist prick. Michelle Obama is a racist prick. Louis Farrakhan is a racist prick. Jesse Jackson is a racist prick. Al Sharpton is a racist prick. Jeremiah Wright is a racist prick. There are many others in their midst...all so-called black leaders. They perpetuate and promote racism through their actions and words.

Top 10 Racist African-Americans

Obama is without a doubt the most racist President of my entire lifetime.

Ben Stein: Obama ‘most racist president’ in American history

This is new b******* GOP crap... A racist is someone who believes another race is inferior and discriminates against them. hating racists does not make one a racist.

 

[francoHFW]

DoThat is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Forgetting to do something is not the same as lying about your intention to do it.

Getting the weather forecast wrong is a failed prediction of something over which nobody has control whereas lying about ObamaCare is a misrepresentation of a bill crafted by the liar.

The mother's having to work late was unknown to her when she made the promise to her son. She did not lie to him. She was victim of something that was outside of her control...as was the weather to the forecaster.

An analogy is a comparison between two objects, or systems of objects, that highlights respects in which they are thought to be similar.

Your attempted analogies are invalid because there is no reasonable similarity between describing what you have written into a proposed bill and happenings over which you have no control.

If Trump says, "I will build a wall" and congress doesn't provide funds or Obama says "you can keep your doctor", and the resulting law forces people to change doctors, neither man lied unless he knew when he made the promise that he could not deliver. If we all applied the same rules we use for judging politicians to our own lies, most of us would be judged liars a dozen times a day.

The difference is that DumBama knew that you couldn't keep your doctor right from the beginning. It was in the bill itself.

3 years later after the Democrats in Congress messed with it... And I have never seen evidence of how many people lost their doctors...

 

[Flopper]

DoThat is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Forgetting to do something is not the same as lying about your intention to do it.

Getting the weather forecast wrong is a failed prediction of something over which nobody has control whereas lying about ObamaCare is a misrepresentation of a bill crafted by the liar.

The mother's having to work late was unknown to her when she made the promise to her son. She did not lie to him. She was victim of something that was outside of her control...as was the weather to the forecaster.

An analogy is a comparison between two objects, or systems of objects, that highlights respects in which they are thought to be similar.

Your attempted analogies are invalid because there is no reasonable similarity between describing what you have written into a proposed bill and happenings over which you have no control.

If Trump says, "I will build a wall" and congress doesn't provide funds or Obama says "you can keep your doctor", and the resulting law forces people to change doctors, neither man lied unless he knew when he made the promise that he could not deliver. If we all applied the same rules we use for judging politicians to our own lies, most of us would be judged liars a dozen times a day.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges...


Obama / Gruber care was sold to the American public on pure deceit.

And you think there was no deceit in Trump's selling of his Wall to the public or in his claim that Obamacare was repealed when only the mandate was repealed.

 

[HenryBHough]

I still chuckle at the misuse of the word "man" in the OP. Who guessed meat puppets had gender?

 

[Markle]

Where Obama's message is always about "we", "together we can accomplish what our parents only dreamed of", "we can do it", "Only with your help can we"... Trump's message is about "me", "I will make American great again", "I will repeal Obamacare", "I will make Mexico pay for the wall", "I will lock her up"... Each one is trying to appeal to a different group. They are essential opposites. It you like Trump, it would be almost impossible to like Obama and vice versa.

That's a total LIE.

News sources even kept track of how many times he would use the words "I" and "me" in his speeches. As you know, President Trump uses the terms "we".

Your desperation is duly noted!

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times


By Terence P. Jeffrey | July 11, 2014 | 8:56 PM EDT

President Trump in Austin, Texas. (Screen Capture)
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times

Without a question, President Barack Hussein Obama has a major narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[Markle]

I never heard Obama berate someone over their looks, their height, their intellect, or their beliefs. The same cannot be said of the Slug in Chief...

You're either disillusioned or being facetious. One or the other, certainly in the real world.



More?

 

[Flopper]

Do

Back off MF.....he never used the hard stuff which is more than can be said about the Dumbassed George W. Bush!!

Obama had written in his first book, "Dreams From My Father" (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow"). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

Barack Obama, asked about drug history, admits he inhaled - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Gee, just think if he ran into a pusher he liked.

So let's hear a lie from Obama that was not a prediction that was blocked.... Silly dupe. Pure brainwashed right-wing idiocy....

"If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I have plenty more, but you asked for "a lie".


Try these on for size:
Obama’s biggest whoppers


^^^^^still only a partial list^^^^^

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said. As opposed to your propaganda and president who lie about facts everyday, the reason you dupes believe Democrats are evil and the greedy idiot GOP Rich pay too much in taxes and are your benefactors.

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowingly speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him a liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Very true. This president began by lying about his inauguration crowd size and he hasn't let up. I think the count is over 5 lies per day, not lies concerning unkept promises or discarded policies, but deliberate lies to mislead...and yet his cult cannot see what a liar he is. They are amazingly gullible.

People hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. For example, Hitler lied constantly about the Jews and the communists, disputing known facts but that certainly didn't discourage his followers. They ignored the lies because they believed in what he wanted to accomplish.

Trump is certainly no Hitler in spite of the fact that both are egomaniacs and both create their own version of the truth. Trump lacks the chrism of Hitler, the communication skills, and the ability to delivery on what he promises. However, there is no doubt that Donald Trump is a clear and present danger to America.

 

[Markle]

So let's hear a lie from Obama that was not a prediction that was blocked.... Silly dupe. Pure brainwashed right-wing idiocy....

My one response to you per day.

 

[Flopper]

Where Obama's message is always about "we", "together we can accomplish what our parents only dreamed of", "we can do it", "Only with your help can we"... Trump's message is about "me", "I will make American great again", "I will repeal Obamacare", "I will make Mexico pay for the wall", "I will lock her up"... Each one is trying to appeal to a different group. They are essential opposites. It you like Trump, it would be almost impossible to like Obama and vice versa.

That's a total LIE.

News sources even kept track of how many times he would use the words "I" and "me" in his speeches. As you know, President Trump uses the terms "we".

Your desperation is duly noted!

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times


By Terence P. Jeffrey | July 11, 2014 | 8:56 PM EDT

President Trump in Austin, Texas. (Screen Capture)
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times

Without a question, President Barack Hussein Obama has a major narcissistic personality disorder.

Oh, Trump certainly says, 'We" now that he's elected. In his State of the Union speech he said "We" 103 times and "I" only 14 times, what a difference getting elected makes.

 

[ptbw forever]

I don't "follow" anything. I don't have television because I don't want it around me.

Yet you somehow get fed so much fake news, the exact same fake news the other leftists on this forum get fed. You need to watch what you read, then<3

It's a far far journey to a universe of Unreality where Rump is anything BUT divisive. Virtually everything he says at any moment of the day or night is exactly about "losers" and "low energy" and "blood coming out of her wherever" and "they're laughing at us" and "ruining America" and "beat the crap out of him" and "tapped my wires" and "rapists" and shooting people and "terrible ratings" and mocking a reporter's congenital disability because he wouldn't lie for him and "I like people who weren't captured" and "how stupid are the people of Iowa" and "corrupt" and "shithole" and "Pocahontas" and "fake news" and "dishonest" and "third rate" and "weak" and "fire the sumbitches" and "lightweight" and "badly bleeding from a facelift" and "Miss Piggy" and many MANY more targeting everything from the Fourth Estate of the Free Press military veterans to Supreme Court justices to entire countries to entire continents to the CHICAGO FREAKING CUBS and oh yeah the election was "rigged" and featured "three million illegals".

Making those statements once doesn't make everything he says those things. Really, you show more signs of listening to what you're told rather than actually listening to Trump to better understand what you're resisting. Although, the "ruining America" statement was on point, Socialists ruin every nation, and that's what the left is becoming. Not his fault for being on point. Although, some of what you listed was simply alleged, you choosing to believe it doesn't mean it's a thing that actually happened, nor does ranting about it.

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

These are the incoherent tantrumps (hee hee just invented that) of a petulant child whose emotional maturity was arrested around the age of eight, who's been handed everything all his life and who whines and stomps his feet whenever he doesn't get his way. And this is still going on in his seventies. He's a gross embarrassment to everything remotely associated with him and due to some very bad mass judgment that now includes all of us.

Wasn't really handed everything, he does have to run his own business. Besides that, your wall of text just amounts to more whining.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

Of course that's only the tip of the iceberg but do go ahead and show the class a similar list of negative turd-flinging from O'bama. Or a shorter list. Or such a list from any President of any time, ever. Or from any human ever, anywhere.

I've already posted a list of Obama's infractions on the constitution(A List of Obama’s Constitutional Violations | From the Trenches World Report). He also has no idea how many states are in the US(57, ha.) He also encouraged illegals to vote, and nothing is quite as 'childish' as the amount of economic illiteracy displayed by Obama and his supporters.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

Nothing, in any milieu, in any place in any time, is accomplished by rampant negativity. That is, nothing but division, which is the one thing the Orangutan has achieved, including outright manifestations of violence both before and after the election. Oh yeah Be proud of that. And needless to say he doesn't personally take part in any of that violence --- he just trolls others to do it for him. Kind of the same way he got others to engage Vietnam for him while he held down the fort defending New York sex clubs. Kind of the same way he got investors to take the fall for him when his ill-advised egocentric edifice complex business ventures failed. Kind of the way he got his Fraud University marks to pony up to buy "feelings".

Yet he united enough people to win over the person promising to continue Obama's legacy.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

we saw, and continue to see, more violence from the left than anyone else, in the form of ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and third wave feminism.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

The irony of all this of course is that Rump in his mendacity describes himself as a "builder", while spending literally all the time his mouth is open, which is about 23 hours a day, not in constructing, but DEstructing.

All he has destructed is the the left. Their behavior is losing them support the longer this goes on. Not only that, but their behavior is driving people to support Trump.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?



How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".
  
• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".
  
• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.
  
• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".
  
• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".
  
• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.
  
• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"
  
• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.
  
• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"
  
• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.
  
• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"
  
• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.
• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

THAT's what you can't give me. Because it doesn't exist.

So much stupid in one post.

You are glued to the tv screen listening to anything and everything that validates your mindless views of the world.

 

[ptbw forever]

Where Obama's message is always about "we", "together we can accomplish what our parents only dreamed of", "we can do it", "Only with your help can we"... Trump's message is about "me", "I will make American great again", "I will repeal Obamacare", "I will make Mexico pay for the wall", "I will lock her up"... Each one is trying to appeal to a different group. They are essential opposites. It you like Trump, it would be almost impossible to like Obama and vice versa.

That's a total LIE.

News sources even kept track of how many times he would use the words "I" and "me" in his speeches. As you know, President Trump uses the terms "we".

Your desperation is duly noted!

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times


By Terence P. Jeffrey | July 11, 2014 | 8:56 PM EDT

President Trump in Austin, Texas. (Screen Capture)
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.

FLASHBACK: ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times

Without a question, President Barack Hussein Obama has a major narcissistic personality disorder.

Oh, Trump certainly says, 'We" now that he's elected. In his State of the Union speech he said "We" 103 times and "I" only 14 times, what a difference getting elected makes.

What was Obama’s excuse then?

His base was too stupid to notice the fact that he was attempting to lecture them as if they were children every single speech he made?

 

[Markle]

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

Your source and link will be appreciated.

CBS/AP October 23, 2015, 12:30 AM
President Obama defends Black Lives Matter movement

WASHINGTON -- Defending the Black Lives Matter movement, President Barack Obama said Thursday the protests are giving voice to a problem happening only in African-American communities, adding, "We, as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this seriously."

President Obama defends Black Lives Matter movement

 

[francoHFW]

So let's hear a lie from Obama that was not a prediction that was blocked.... Silly dupe. Pure brainwashed right-wing idiocy....

My one response to you per day.

Nothing as usual?

 

[MrShangles]

He was so classy that all of his speeches were full of, I and Me now that’s classy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That is not a lie, stupid, that is a prediction that that was blocked, as I said

That was a promise......he lied.
He also promised $2500 annual savings......another lie.

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Forgetting to do something is not the same as lying about your intention to do it.

Getting the weather forecast wrong is a failed prediction of something over which nobody has control whereas lying about ObamaCare is a misrepresentation of a bill crafted by the liar.

The mother's having to work late was unknown to her when she made the promise to her son. She did not lie to him. She was victim of something that was outside of her control...as was the weather to the forecaster.

An analogy is a comparison between two objects, or systems of objects, that highlights respects in which they are thought to be similar.

Your attempted analogies are invalid because there is no reasonable similarity between describing what you have written into a proposed bill and happenings over which you have no control.

If Trump says, "I will build a wall" and congress doesn't provide funds or Obama says "you can keep your doctor", and the resulting law forces people to change doctors, neither man lied unless he knew when he made the promise that he could not deliver. If we all applied the same rules we use for judging politicians to our own lies, most of us would be judged liars a dozen times a day.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges...


Obama / Gruber care was sold to the American public on pure deceit.

And you think there was no deceit in Trump's selling of his Wall to the public or in his claim that Obamacare was repealed when only the mandate was repealed.

Did he try or didn't he try?

That's besides the fact that no matter what a presidential candidate promises, we know that most need the blessing of Congress. That was more likely with Trump than Hil-Liar. So what did she say she would do with a majority Republican Congress?

Including her time as first lady of Arkansas and of the nation, Hillary Clinton has spent 31 years in government life. So it's little wonder that she tends to talk about her presidency in terms of policy-heavy proposals compared with her opponent, businessman Donald J. Trump, who has never worked in government.

Clinton's website has nearly 40 pages outlining policy positions plus additional fact sheets for every proposal. Trump, the billionaire who prefers to offer his ideas and vision with broad strokes, has a website with policies, too: It's seven pages.

Hillary Clinton's top 10 campaign promises

Now you tell me how many of her top ten would have been policy today if she won.

 

[Markle]

Did Obama ever appoint someone so controversial to racial issues? No of course not.

Van Jones is only one. Self-proclaimed Communist was appointed by President Obama to be his Green Czar.

Here is Van Jones speaking to support a convicted cop killer.

Here is who he is defending and asking that he be freed.

 

[Markle]

And you think there was no deceit in Trump's selling of his Wall to the public or in his claim that Obamacare was repealed when only the mandate was repealed.

As you know, repealing the mandate kills Obamacare. Period.

 

[francoHFW]

I know in the silly world of politics, anything a politician promises or predicts which does not happen makes him a liar. However, in the real world a lie is defined as knowing speaking falsely. We don't call the weatherman a liar because he predicted a sunny day and he got it wrong, or your spouse because he said he would take out the garbage and he forgot, or the mom who promised her son she would bake him cake but she had to work late. Yet in politics anything a politician promises that does not materialize for whatever reason will brand him liar. And we wonder why the best people stay out of politics.

Forgetting to do something is not the same as lying about your intention to do it.

Getting the weather forecast wrong is a failed prediction of something over which nobody has control whereas lying about ObamaCare is a misrepresentation of a bill crafted by the liar.

The mother's having to work late was unknown to her when she made the promise to her son. She did not lie to him. She was victim of something that was outside of her control...as was the weather to the forecaster.

An analogy is a comparison between two objects, or systems of objects, that highlights respects in which they are thought to be similar.

Your attempted analogies are invalid because there is no reasonable similarity between describing what you have written into a proposed bill and happenings over which you have no control.

If Trump says, "I will build a wall" and congress doesn't provide funds or Obama says "you can keep your doctor", and the resulting law forces people to change doctors, neither man lied unless he knew when he made the promise that he could not deliver. If we all applied the same rules we use for judging politicians to our own lies, most of us would be judged liars a dozen times a day.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges...


Obama / Gruber care was sold to the American public on pure deceit.

And you think there was no deceit in Trump's selling of his Wall to the public or in his claim that Obamacare was repealed when only the mandate was repealed.

Did he try or didn't he try?

That's besides the fact that no matter what a presidential candidate promises, we know that most need the blessing of Congress. That was more likely with Trump than Hil-Liar. So what did she say she would do with a majority Republican Congress?

Including her time as first lady of Arkansas and of the nation, Hillary Clinton has spent 31 years in government life. So it's little wonder that she tends to talk about her presidency in terms of policy-heavy proposals compared with her opponent, businessman Donald J. Trump, who has never worked in government.

Clinton's website has nearly 40 pages outlining policy positions plus additional fact sheets for every proposal. Trump, the billionaire who prefers to offer his ideas and vision with broad strokes, has a website with policies, too: It's seven pages.

Hillary Clinton's top 10 campaign promises

Now you tell me how many of her top ten would have been policy today if she won.

Depends on how much she would have won by. Without Russian and Wiki email crap and big mouth C o m e y, she might have gotten it all and we would have a fair country we could be proud of instead of this GOP mess you're so proud of, dupe.

 

[Billy000]

Do you have statistics to back this up? How exactly is Obama connected to the formation of BLM?

Hate crimes went up 20% in 2017. Hate crimes by white supremacists doubled in 2017.

Do you have any damning statistics about Obama?

Your source and link will be appreciated.

CBS/AP October 23, 2015, 12:30 AM
President Obama defends Black Lives Matter movement

WASHINGTON -- Defending the Black Lives Matter movement, President Barack Obama said Thursday the protests are giving voice to a problem happening only in African-American communities, adding, "We, as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this seriously."

President Obama defends Black Lives Matter movement

I made a thread on this very topic just a day or two ago. My proof and links is in that thread:

Welcome to Trump’s America - the ugly side

I asked how Obama had anything to do with the BLM movement. For one thing, I specifically said “formation” which obviously didn’t involve Obama. Secondly, just because someone says something supportive about a movement, it does not mean they are at all INVOLVED with the movement. So the fuck what Obama sided with BLM in a one time quote. What, exactly, wouid have happened had he not said this? What would have been different had Obama not said this? You don’t know. You don’t know shit. You’re just desperate to put blame on him for race relations simply because he is black.