Can republicans at least admit Obama was a man of class and dignity regardless of his policies?

[rightwinger]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

Admit to something that is a lie? The man thinks there are 58 states and can't even pronounce corpsman.

What do you want?

He didn't go to Wharton

 

[rightwinger]

Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole. He is dismissive, derisive and every bit as Partisan as Stalin. There is nothing classy about Hussein.

The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole. He is dismissive, derisive and every bit as Partisan as Stalin. There is nothing classy about Hussein.

The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents

Based upon what?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole. He is dismissive, derisive and every bit as Partisan as Stalin. There is nothing classy about Hussein.

The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents

Based upon what?

Skin color.......?

 

[Doc1]

Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole. He is dismissive, derisive and every bit as Partisan as Stalin. There is nothing classy about Hussein.

The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents

Of course he is, just ask you.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.

I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.

Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.

Like that.

And these.

Then there's these instances.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?

Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about.

How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".

• Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
  

• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".

• Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
  

• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.

• Citation needed.
  

• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".

• Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
  

• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".

• Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
  

• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.

• He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
  

• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"

• Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
  

• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.

• He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
  

• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"

• LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
  

• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.

• You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
  

• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"

• He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
  

• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.

• He's dead, I doubt he would care.
  

• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

• He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.

tl;dr

Your limited attention span explains your political views. If you were informed, you wouldn't be as you are now.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole. He is dismissive, derisive and every bit as Partisan as Stalin. There is nothing classy about Hussein.

The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No Dope. She wouldn't have gotten anything done. And if you bothered to read the link (which I know you didn't) you would see that Politifact stated most of her policies were a continuation of Hussein's policies; policies that would have never been given the green light by the Republican led Congress or Senate.

Except she could have won by 8 points without the Comey and Russian BS.... Someday...

She was the Russian BS--not Trump.

She indirectly paid Steele to create a phony report on Trump. He got his information from Russian government outlets and Hillary's inner-circle. The FBI took that report and presented it to the FISA court to spy on Trump which they granted.

Hil-Liar tried to change the outcome of the election with her help from Russians--not Trump.

Yet the Mueller investigation targets alleged Trump/Russian collusion only. Why was it not opened to Russian collusion with Americans to influence our election? That would have included Hilliary.

Are you kidding me? After the DNC server got hacked, they wouldn't even allow the FBI near it.

That should not have limited the collusion investigation to Trump. Since the Dems claimed that the Russians hacked into their emails and then refused to let the FBI see them, the suggestion to include the DNC in the investigation should logically have been stronger.

Give them some credit. At least they didn't Bleach Bit their server.

 

[Slyhunter]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

Admit to something that is a lie? The man thinks there are 58 states and can't even pronounce corpsman.

57, and he's absolutely correct. Counting Israel there are 57 Arab States. Proof he's a Muslim.

 

[Flopper]

Did he try or didn't he try?

That's besides the fact that no matter what a presidential candidate promises, we know that most need the blessing of Congress. That was more likely with Trump than Hil-Liar. So what did she say she would do with a majority Republican Congress?

Including her time as first lady of Arkansas and of the nation, Hillary Clinton has spent 31 years in government life. So it's little wonder that she tends to talk about her presidency in terms of policy-heavy proposals compared with her opponent, businessman Donald J. Trump, who has never worked in government.

Clinton's website has nearly 40 pages outlining policy positions plus additional fact sheets for every proposal. Trump, the billionaire who prefers to offer his ideas and vision with broad strokes, has a website with policies, too: It's seven pages.

Hillary Clinton's top 10 campaign promises

Now you tell me how many of her top ten would have been policy today if she won.

Depends on how much she would have won by. Without Russian and Wiki email crap and big mouth C o m e y, she might have gotten it all and we would have a fair country we could be proud of instead of this GOP mess you're so proud of, dupe.

No Dope. She wouldn't have gotten anything done. And if you bothered to read the link (which I know you didn't) you would see that Politifact stated most of her policies were a continuation of Hussein's policies; policies that would have never been given the green light by the Republican led Congress or Senate.

Except she could have won by 8 points without the Comey and Russian BS.... Someday...

She was the Russian BS--not Trump.

She indirectly paid Steele to create a phony report on Trump. He got his information from Russian government outlets and Hillary's inner-circle. The FBI took that report and presented it to the FISA court to spy on Trump which they granted.

Hil-Liar tried to change the outcome of the election with her help from Russians--not Trump.

Yet the Mueller investigation targets alleged Trump/Russian collusion only. Why was it not opened to Russian collusion with Americans to influence our election? That would have included Hilliary.

It is an open investigation of Russian interference in the election and it's more than just investigating Trump. Robert Mueller was appointed “to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. This appointment came after the Office of the Director of National Intelligence reported that the U.S. intelligence agencies consisting of military and civilian intelligence agencies had concluded "with high confidence" that the Russian government interfered in the election by:

• Hacking into the Democratic National Committee’s and Hillary Clinton campaign’s emails and leaking them to WikiLeaks;
• Disseminating fake news about Ms. Clinton on social media;
• And trying to hack into election systems and databases of multiple U.S. states.

The intelligence community recognized the Russian government’s imprint on these techniques because the Russians had used them before in attempts to influence other foreign elections. The FBI began several related investigations into Russian election influence during the summer of 2016, which were consolidated into Mr. Mueller’s investigation.

As was made clear by Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, ‎the investigation would follow the evidence of Russian interference in the election and would pursue any criminal activity discovered in the course of the investigation. If the evidence points toward the Trumps or the Clintons, it will certainly, be investigated.

I think it's natural to assume that the Russians favored the election of Trump because it is well know that Hillary and Putin hated each other and were at odds on almost ever issues. Trump, however was rather neutral toward Russia and even spoke well of Putin in his campaign. There is no way that the Russians would help Hillary win the presidency. Whether they helped Trump or there was conclusion during the campaign should come out in the investigation. The fact that Trump has fought against the investigation from the beginning certainly cast suspicion as to his motives.
Mueller investigation is about more than Trump

 

[Pogo]

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.

I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.

Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.

Like that.

And these.

Then there's these instances.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?

Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about.

How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".

• Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
  

• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".

• Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
  

• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.

• Citation needed.
  

• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".

• Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
  

• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".

• Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
  

• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.

• He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
  

• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"

• Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
  

• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.

• He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
  

• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"

• LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
  

• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.

• You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
  

• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"

• He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
  

• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.

• He's dead, I doubt he would care.
  

• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

• He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.

I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.

e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"

You're not ready for this.

 

[Snouter]

Hussaine was actually worse than Crooked Hillary. Total POS and totally racist at the insane level.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Hussaine was actually worse than Crooked Hillary. Total POS and totally racist at the insane level.

my cat is a better person that obama being my cat didnt give IRAN 150 Billion Dollars to build and sell bombs

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.

I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.

Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.

Like that.

And these.

Then there's these instances.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?

Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about.

How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".

• Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
  

• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".

• Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
  

• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.

• Citation needed.
  

• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".

• Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
  

• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".

• Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
  

• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.

• He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
  

• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"

• Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
  

• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.

• He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
  

• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"

• LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
  

• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.

• You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
  

• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"

• He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
  

• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.

• He's dead, I doubt he would care.
  

• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

• He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.

I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.

e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"

You're not ready for this.

You're the one that missed the point.

He was right about the country, therefor you're simply whining that he pointed out the truth. If it bothered them, they'd have solved the problem, and there's no reason for it to bother us, we don't live there. Whine louder, maybe he'll conform to what YOU believe is the RIGHT way to speak.

My point wasn't that he won, my point was that the fact that he won is evidence that it didn't bother as many people as you'd like to think it did. Whether you'd like to believe it or not, the left doesn't dictate the opinions of the Nation, let alone the world.

I was mocking your argument by pointing out that there are REAL problems he can be causing rather than simply hurting your poor little feelings, and Eisenhower being economically illiterate was an example. I also pointed out that he was correct that the system was rigged, which is what you were whining about him pointing out. The fact that he's correct is what you have a problem with.

You're the one isn't ready, you can't defend your position against me.

 

[talksalot]

No. Although I liked him at first. Thought he was an ultra liberal who was too incompetent at politics to harm the country, but who was a basically nice family oriented guy....

But later realized there is nothing classy or dignified about an America-hating narcissist. His and Hillary's dirty dealings are coming to light, though we all know nothing will be done about it. It's just the way Democrats operate and it's accepted by fellow Democrats.

 

[asaratis]

Actually "ruining America" referred to protestors at his rallies. You know, the inconvenient First Amendment thingy. That's what he thinks is "ruining America". That's also why he's declared war on it.

And as I noted I didn't anywhere-near cover everything he's said, that was just a small but representative sample. But yes it's absolutely a pattern. Take the other day in Cincinnati while he was delivering a sermon about the wondrous economy (as the Dow was tumbling by several hundred points) in an endless rah-rah fluff job ------- and yet couldn't keep himself from lapsing into a long boring harangue about Nancy Pelosi. He just cannot function without tearing somebody or something down. And you know it as well as I do.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.

I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.

Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.

Ooooooh yes he was. Daddy Fred made millions on FHA and New Deal seed money building houses in Queens and Brooklyn and renting them (strictly to white people) (and skimming money into his own pockets) and then handed it to the Orangutan. Who didn't do a damn thing to earn it.

He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.

None of which addresses my question. Because you can't do it.

I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.

Again ----- doesn't address the point at all. You've merely noted that sheeple exist. We already know that, and we're paying the price. But the dynamic of what I just pointed out sits untouched.

I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.

Oooooh I don't think so. Perhaps if you cherrypick some hair-on-fire blogs you can find that but meanwhile back here in the real world of Tiki Torchers and plowing cars into people and slashing people on a light rail train and beating and pissing on a homeless man because he looks Hispanic and endless pot shots at political rally protestors, the world of actual reality has a slightly different tilt.

And please -- wtf is "third wave feminism"? Back to your cherrypickle blogs for the answer on that, I have no doubt.

There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.

Like that.

And these.

Then there's these instances.

"the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?

Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about.

How 'bout the electoral process?

“rigged”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“corrupt”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED!”
“Rigged”
“RIGGED”
“Rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“rigged”
“allowed Crooked Hillary to get away with 'murder'”
“rigged”
“Rigged”
“Very very unfair!”
“rigged”
“totally rigged and corrupt!”
“totally rigged & corrupt!”

Want more? I gots LOTS more. We all do.

Know what we don't have?

• Barack O'bama declaring "he's not a hero --he's only a hero because he was captured".

• Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
  

• George W. Bush whining about "blood coming out of her wherever".

• Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
  

• Bill Clinton suggesting that somebody should shoot Bob Dole.

• Citation needed.
  

• George Bush whining that the election was "rigged".

• Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
  

• Ronald Reagan calling a country or a continent a "shithole".

• Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
  

• Jimmy Carter sitting out a televised debate because there might be a blood-soaked reporter there asking pointed questions.

• He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
  

• Gerald Ford whining "look at that face --- would anybody vote for that face?"

• Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
  

• Richard Nixon crowing about the size of his dick.

• He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
  

• Lyndon Johnson asking the people of Iowa, "how stupid are the people of Iowa?"

• LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
  

• JFK gyrating spastically to mock a reporter who wouldn't lie for him.

• You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
  

• Dwight Eisenhower sneering "I like people who weren't captured, OK?"

• He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
  

• Harry Truman mythologizing that Tom Dewey was not a citizen.

• He's dead, I doubt he would care.
  

• FDR using a Fireside Chat to whine about "our airports are crumbling".

• He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.

I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.

e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"

You're not ready for this.

Actually, Pirogue did quite well addressing your attempted points.

IMHO, Pirogue waxed your ass!

 

[TheParser]

I agree with those posters who discern a difference between "dignified" and "classy."

"Dignified" may refer to one's public appearance; "classy" may refer to one's actions.

*****

I agree that all fair-minded people congratulate President Obama on being very dignified.

a. He always spoke carefully.
b. He never lost his temper.
c. He never used vulgar language.

I think that he was unfairly criticized, for example, for bowing to some foreign leaders. He was simply showing respect to his elders. As a (very) senior citizen, I wish more people would show similar respect!

Yes, President Obama deserves an A+ for his dignified demeanor.

*****

I personally do not consider some of his actions as "classy," however.

a. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he went on national television to discuss the case of the young man who had been killed in Florida.

b. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he invited the Rev. Mr. Sharpton to the White House so often.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

/-----/ They say Hitler was a real ladies man and Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Can democRATs admit that much about them?

 

[Cellblock2429]

I’m sure even republicans can admit that about Obama.

He is a great communicator, the best since Reagan. He has great listening, writing, and reading skills. However, the one thing that most sets him apart from the current president is he uses the first person plural “we” rather than “I” when he speaks. The act of using we is not just pure politics as some of you might think but rather a unique way of involving people in a conversation and then making them believe they have actually contributed something positive to a cause.

/-----/ He was the complete opposite. Were you not paying attention?
'I,' 'Me,' 'My'—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times - CNS News
https://www.cnsnews.com/.../i-me-my-obama-uses-first-person-singular-199-times-spe...
Jul 11, 2014 - By contrast, President Abraham Lincoln's Gettyburg Address was only 272 words--and did not include any form of the first person singular. ... In one 68-word passage--in which he vowed to act unilaterally if Congress did not enact legislation he liked--Obama used the first person singular five more times ...
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.

“It is lonely, me just doing stuff,” Obama said at the speech in Austin, Texas, according to the official transcript and video posted on the White House website.

“I’m just telling the truth now,” Obama told the crowd. “I don't have to run for office again, so I can just let her rip. And I want to assure you, I’m really not that partisan of a guy.”

 

[mikegriffith1]

You think the economy is booming because Trump removed the mandate from Obamacare? FYI, that does not take effect until 2019.

FYI, Trump has instructed the IRS not to require people to complete the health care question on the tax form and not to enforce the Obamacare penalty. Those measures are in effect right now.

The economy has improved so well under Trump because of his sweeping deregulation and because he has instilled confidence and hope in the business sector by making it clear that he is their friend, not their enemy.

And the trend in falling food stamp participation began long before Trump took office. During Obama's last term it fell over 5 million. Employment peaked in 2010 at 10% and has been in a down trend for 8 years. It has been 4.1% for the last 3 months.

Yes, because once the Republicans took control of the House, they stopped Obama's agenda and imposed fiscal discipline.

Obama does deserve credit for the good things he did on the economic front: He signed the Budget Control Act of 2011. He made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in 2013, against the advice of liberal quack economists like Paul Krugman and the nuts at the Center for American Progress. He capped the capital gains tax rate at 20%, which was lower than it was under Reagan. The sad thing is that much of Obama's good moves--much, not all--were cancelled out by his over-regulation, by Obamacare, by Dodd-Frank, etc., etc.

What is booming in the economy is the stock market, up 26% due the huge cut in taxes on corporation and the wealthy. Let me remind you the market increased 141% under Obama.

You need to consult some reliable news sources. Numerous economic indicators that have been down or stagnant are showing very positive signs since Trump came to office. I don't think you realize the degree of Trump's deregulation, which he started almost as soon as he took office. This has had a huge impact for good.

The tax cuts are not just for "huge corporations and the wealthy." Sheesh, why don't you break down and *read* the tax-cut bill. The biggest rate cuts went to the middle class by far, not to the rich. And the corporate tax cut simply brought our corporate tax rate down to the level of that in Asia and Europe (the average corporate tax rate in those regions is around 18-21%--ours is now 21%).

Another great thing that the tax cuts are doing is attracting American business money back to the U.S. from being parked overseas. The special repatriation tax rate of 15.5% is causing many companies to bring hundreds of billions of dollars in parked money back to the U.S. This has already started happening.