Carly Fiorina with a pre-existing condition opposes Obamacare~

[Eaglewings]

why are liberals such dishonest douchebags?

my dad was born with a heart defect almost 70 years ago; PRE-EXISTING CONDITION.
HE has always had health insurance

the idea that you couldnt get health insurace with a pre-existing condition before ObamaCare came along is just idiotic and untrue

Before ACA, you were allowed to enroll without evidence of insurability if you enrolled within the first 30 days following your eligibility date. After that, the door was closed. When HMO's came into being, the open enrollment period was repeated once each year. However, I was the one who delivered annual rate increases. If we found a major claim going on in a small group, we intentionally drove the group away with a massive rate increase.

JUST IDIOTIC

stop lying

Haaaaa another freaken one who ignores the facts and doesn't have a clue..
Ummmm maybe your the same person only a different username..



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[bedowin62]

again; my dad has always been able to get health insurance despite the "roadblocks" you describe, and changing plans

obamacare isnt the miracle its idiot supporters make it out to be

 

[Vandalshandle]

If a person did not enroll withing 30 days of first becoming eligible, he was defined as a 'late enrollee". We had the right to require him to complete a health questionnaire, and decline coverage, if he had an condition. I routinely declined children with tubes in their ears. A woman who was pregnant was out of luck. Any psychiatric or substance abuse problems? Too bad. Don't even bother to fill out the form if you have a history of cancer, heart disease, or need any surgery whatever.

 

[Eaglewings]

again; my dad has always been able to get health insurance despite the "roadblocks" you describe, and changing plans

obamacare isnt the miracle its idiot supporters make it out to be

Why don't you go ask your dad what was going on in the last 6 - 7 years...He was lucky to get on Medicare and guess what when medicare first came out there was a lot of opposition at that time as well. Also my husband has high blood pressure I don't think something like your dad's and my husband's condition would affect anything, not sure though.

Also my point isn't claiming that Obamacare is perfect.
My point is that Carly is a cancer survivor wanting to screw over other cancer people..





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[HereWeGoAgain]

What the fuck does she care? She nailed down $188 million in her six years at HP not to mention $11 million invested in Goldman Sachs fixed income bonds which give her a tax free $445, 405. She can afford her own health care.

And according to conservative dogma, if one 'fails' to get a job that pays enough to afford health insurance and treatment for a catastrophic, life-threatening illness, then he 'deserves' to die, where he has only himself to 'blame' for being low income and poor.

Now with the cost of healthcare it is the middle class that deserve to die as well. The way the republican's want healthcare to be is for the wealthy only.
My husband and I worked hard ( he is an attorney ) and are considered middle class. The way things were we would have lost our home, business everything.

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

 

[Eaglewings]

What the fuck does she care? She nailed down $188 million in her six years at HP not to mention $11 million invested in Goldman Sachs fixed income bonds which give her a tax free $445, 405. She can afford her own health care.

And according to conservative dogma, if one 'fails' to get a job that pays enough to afford health insurance and treatment for a catastrophic, life-threatening illness, then he 'deserves' to die, where he has only himself to 'blame' for being low income and poor.

Now with the cost of healthcare it is the middle class that deserve to die as well. The way the republican's want healthcare to be is for the wealthy only.
My husband and I worked hard ( he is an attorney ) and are considered middle class. The way things were we would have lost our home, business everything.

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

May I ask you do go into more details.. Do you have employers insurance or do you buy your own, that makes a big difference.

 

[Vandalshandle]

What the fuck does she care? She nailed down $188 million in her six years at HP not to mention $11 million invested in Goldman Sachs fixed income bonds which give her a tax free $445, 405. She can afford her own health care.

And according to conservative dogma, if one 'fails' to get a job that pays enough to afford health insurance and treatment for a catastrophic, life-threatening illness, then he 'deserves' to die, where he has only himself to 'blame' for being low income and poor.

Now with the cost of healthcare it is the middle class that deserve to die as well. The way the republican's want healthcare to be is for the wealthy only.
My husband and I worked hard ( he is an attorney ) and are considered middle class. The way things were we would have lost our home, business everything.

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

 

[Eaglewings]

And according to conservative dogma, if one 'fails' to get a job that pays enough to afford health insurance and treatment for a catastrophic, life-threatening illness, then he 'deserves' to die, where he has only himself to 'blame' for being low income and poor.

Now with the cost of healthcare it is the middle class that deserve to die as well. The way the republican's want healthcare to be is for the wealthy only.
My husband and I worked hard ( he is an attorney ) and are considered middle class. The way things were we would have lost our home, business everything.

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Now with the cost of healthcare it is the middle class that deserve to die as well. The way the republican's want healthcare to be is for the wealthy only.
My husband and I worked hard ( he is an attorney ) and are considered middle class. The way things were we would have lost our home, business everything.

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

 

[PredFan]

Love that the left has stopped falsely attacking Trump, and is now falsely attacking Fiorina. The woman is on here way!

T-Rump is a leftist ???
Trump launches late night Twitter assault on Fiorina mocking her business experience

Ha ha you're an idiot still.

 

[PredFan]

Because she has integrity. With her it's about the people who are being hurt or scammed by obamacare and not about her. You greedy self-serving liberals don't understand integrity.

What has Carly offered to those without insurance?

Does she care?

That isn't her job....yet. I know she has a plan though. Go to her web page and find out.

I was just messing with my earlier post to you PredFan , tried to write on your page but I couldn't leave a message.

Anyway Carly doesn't have a plan,just the stupid ass pool plan that will get defunded like it already has a few weeks back.
Having a Pre-Existing Condition would turn into a welfare plan even though we are hard working people with homes and savings.
If she had any heart from knowing what she knows, she would fight for the pre-existing people out there instead of taking care of herself.

Granted the plan needs more work but it's better than obamacare, she's right about that.

No I meant Obamacare may need more work and changes since it has been out there, not for one minute would I even consider Carly's plan,...like I said it is just like some of the others on the right, it is a pool plan that will turn into a welfare for those with pre-existing conditions and will be cut to the bone with defunds..
I pay a lot for my insurance why should pre-existing people be considered welfare?





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I didn't ask you if you would consider it, I'm just pointing out that she has one. Dispite claims to the contrary.

 

[Eaglewings]

How did you let your insurance lapse?
Not a smart thing to do if you're a cancer patient.

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

Individual, he has a independent small office as an attorney , this all came about when the economy was still pretty bad. His practice was hurting as people held back on any legal issues plus ( another thread ) big law firms were taking over the internet search.
Now he is back to being busy. It was a stressful time.
This time around with my 2nd diagnosis ( cancer spread to the lymph nodes ) things are not as hard with Obamacare and the economy almost back to normal in the San Francisco bay are.

 

[healthmyths]

why are liberals such dishonest douchebags?

my dad was born with a heart defect almost 70 years ago; PRE-EXISTING CONDITION.
HE has always had health insurance

the idea that you couldnt get health insurace with a pre-existing condition before ObamaCare came along is just idiotic and untrue

THANKS!!!

Here is the BIG LIE used by Obama to pass ACA!!!
Gross Exaggeration: Obama said "Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition,"
Another grossly wrong outright lie!
This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) Facts: half of 310 million Americans is 155 million.
85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper

But did this stop Obama from spreading the terrible terrible LIE???
The total impression given by this LIE was 155 million people couldn't get insurance! 30 second sound bite proof of that is people equated "pre-existing conditions" as preventing them from getting insurance!

 

[Vandalshandle]

My insurance didn't lapse... it is what was going on with everyone's insurance until Obamacare kicked in .
the last few years were the worst with insurances charging crazy outrageous prices for MRI's, Cancer medication , ect. and it was legal for them to do that.. Now it is not.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

Individual, he has a independent small office as an attorney , this all came about when the economy was still pretty bad. His practice was hurting as people held back on any legal issues plus ( another thread ) big law firms were taking over the internet search.
Now he is back to being busy. It was a stressful time.
This time around with my 2nd diagnosis ( cancer spread to the lymph nodes ) things are not as hard with Obamacare and the economy almost back to normal in the San Francisco bay are.

I'm a little out of date on Individual health insurance policies. My career was mostly in group health, The last time that I was in individual health, policies were guaranteed renewable, unless the insurer cancelled all of them (they could not just cancel individual people). Most companies got out of the individual health business by the early 1980's. I, personally, canceled all of ours, at the company I worked for in 1985. Because of the required guaranteed renewal clause, they were money losers for insurance companies. I am guessing that your husband's insurer were canceling all of certain policies and replacing them with policies with higher deductibles, and eventually getting rid of all of them, altogether.

 

[healthmyths]

Carly Fiorina is a breast cancer survivor who has gone through the whole treatment route of chemotherapy, and surgery. Being re-admitted to the hospital for infections from her reconstruction surgeries, who I am sure has Top Notch health insurance and was treated by Top Notch doctors from Stanford University.

She is saying that Obama care isn't working for cancer patients. What a bunch of fucking lies!

I am currently being treated the 2nd time with the same treatment at the same place Carly was treated , only I opted out of the thousands of dollars reconstruction surgery due to complications.

My husband and I worked hard all of our life's and after my first diagnosis we were about to lose our home and savings because of the pre-existing crap in 2012 and treatment was killing us .

Bag of chemo $10,000 x 12
Shot the day after $20,000 x 12
Surgeries over $100,000

The cost goes on and on~

The pre-existing law has not only saved my life but millions of lives who would otherwise have to For-go and die without treatment this second time around.

Carly wants to replace it with a High-Risk Pool Plan which is basically a disaster for anyone with preexisting anything.
The trouble with high risk pools as a “conservative alternative” | The Incidental Economist

To overcome these issues, the pools would need to be incredibly well-funded—conservative health policy scholar James Capretta estimated that adequate funding would be on the scale of $15-20 billion a year to cover 4 million individuals. Remember that back in the real world, the GOP quashed a bill for $4 billion in one-time high risk pool stopgap funding earlier this year.

I feel bad for her having breast cancer , but I knew she was a fucking bitch by just looking at her.
Another candidate who will take what she can get with her cushy insurance and fuck the rest of America over.

This Botox Bitch is dangerous, and to vote her in will bring us down just like she did with HP...

Carly Fiorina on Opposing Obamacare as a Cancer Survivor





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So I clearly understand your issue.
YOU had NO health insurance right?
I know this doesn't help change your mind but the insurance industry which is the ONLY source for this statistic says this about
the LIE that Obama told to get ACA passed:
Gross Exaggeration: Obama said "Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition,"
Another grossly wrong outright lie!
This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) Facts: half of 310 million Americans is 155 million.
85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper

NOW the problem with this is this GIGANTIC LIE passed Obamacare under totally false impressions!
There never were 46 million uninsured. There never were 155 million with pre-existing conditions.
LESS the 4 million without insurance that wanted insurance and less then 1.5 million like you with pre-existing.

If Obama had honestly dealt with the issue of "pre-existing conditions" he would ALSO have dealt with "Tort Reform" which totally
ignored the fact that lawyers according to 90% of physicians cost Americans $850 billion a year in wasteful medical services.
This $850 billion is PASSED ON in the form of premiums.
THUS you are a perfect example of how rather then looking at the cause of $850 billion wasted money because Lawyers caused it
Obama a lawyer pushed ACA that was based on total falsehoods!
Here are the facts to support my point...

http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
Proof is 90% of physicians surveyed say they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!
Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year.
--- Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice defensive medicine.
--- 79 to 83% of surgeons and OB/GYNs have been named in lawsuits.
"Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected against lawsuits by the 1946 Federal Tort Claims Act. "

-- BUT........Only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.

NOW explain to me why government paid physicians don't do defensive medicine practices while 90% of non-government paid physicians do?
Because of the 1946 Tort act

I am going to add on my 1st post that I did have heath insurance, but they were jerking us around and charging us super high deductibles and were going to deny us coverage. My husband almost had a heart attack.

I am not saying Obamacare is perfect I am just saying that Carly doesn't give a shit about people with pre-existing conditions even though she has breast cancer ( almost the exact kind as me).


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YOU totally IGNORED the fact there was less then 1.5 million with pre-existing conditions!

There were also NEVER 46 million uninsured but that lie was used to pass ACA!

What you obviously never knew was Obama the lawyer protecting the lawyers $270 billion a year income would NOT allow
any tort reform which would have cut 20 maybe 30% the $850 billion a year 90% of doctors attest is wasted due to fear of lawsuits!
Think... just think... The insurance companies pay the claims submitted (including this $850 billion) and simply raise premiums.
BUT... states regulate premiums and if the costs go down i.e. $200 billion reduction in defensive medicine the premiums have to go down which would lower the costs... but Obama totally ignorant of how insurance works as well as his cohorts never considered a
tax on the lawyers! Guess what that $27 billion a year in taxes though would have provided...health insurance for the 4 million that were truly uninsured! Problem solved!

Gross Exaggeration: Obama said "Up to half of all Americans have a pre-existing condition,"
Another grossly wrong outright lie!
This gave the impression 155 million Americans were not able to get insurance!
1) Facts: half of 310 million Americans is 155 million.
85% of Americans have coverage... that means 266 million so where in the hell did Obama come up with "half"?
2) Facts: a total of LESS THEN 1.5 million Americans who were denied health insurance or paid higher premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Obama's Pre-existing Conditions Whopper

But did this stop Obama from spreading the terrible terrible LIE???
The total impression given by this LIE was 155 million people couldn't get insurance! 30 second sound bite proof of that is people equated "pre-existing conditions" as preventing them from getting insurance!

 

[Eaglewings]

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I didn't ask you if you would consider it, I'm just pointing out that she has one. Dispite claims to the contrary.[/QUOTE]

Finding out a few things just yesterday about Carly , I would rather have Trump at least he doesn't tell bold faced lies. I am glad that you like her, but you may change your mind once her twisted half truths to bold faced lies come out.

Funny,I made it through cancer and a hip replacement without any issues.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

Individual, he has a independent small office as an attorney , this all came about when the economy was still pretty bad. His practice was hurting as people held back on any legal issues plus ( another thread ) big law firms were taking over the internet search.
Now he is back to being busy. It was a stressful time.
This time around with my 2nd diagnosis ( cancer spread to the lymph nodes ) things are not as hard with Obamacare and the economy almost back to normal in the San Francisco bay are.

I'm a little out of date on Individual health insurance policies. My career was mostly in group health, The last time that I was in individual health, policies were guaranteed renewable, unless the insurer cancelled all of them (they could not just cancel individual people). Most companies got out of the individual health business by the early 1980's. I, personally, canceled all of ours, at the company I worked for in 1985. Because of the required guaranteed renewal clause, they were money losers for insurance companies. I am guessing that your husband's insurer were canceling all of certain policies and replacing them with policies with higher deductibles, and eventually getting rid of all of them, altogether.

Yes, that is exactly what happened.

I think he regrets being an independent lawyer in these times due to the insurance costs and being with a firm you get the large group insurance like you said.

 

[healthmyths]

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I didn't ask you if you would consider it, I'm just pointing out that she has one. Dispite claims to the contrary.

Finding out a few things just yesterday about Carly , I would rather have Trump at least he doesn't tell bold faced lies. I am glad that you like her, but you may change your mind once her twisted half truths to bold faced lies come out.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

Individual, he has a independent small office as an attorney , this all came about when the economy was still pretty bad. His practice was hurting as people held back on any legal issues plus ( another thread ) big law firms were taking over the internet search.
Now he is back to being busy. It was a stressful time.
This time around with my 2nd diagnosis ( cancer spread to the lymph nodes ) things are not as hard with Obamacare and the economy almost back to normal in the San Francisco bay are.

I'm a little out of date on Individual health insurance policies. My career was mostly in group health, The last time that I was in individual health, policies were guaranteed renewable, unless the insurer cancelled all of them (they could not just cancel individual people). Most companies got out of the individual health business by the early 1980's. I, personally, canceled all of ours, at the company I worked for in 1985. Because of the required guaranteed renewal clause, they were money losers for insurance companies. I am guessing that your husband's insurer were canceling all of certain policies and replacing them with policies with higher deductibles, and eventually getting rid of all of them, altogether.

Yes, that is exactly what happened.

I think he regrets being an independent lawyer in these times due to the insurance costs and being with a firm you get the large group insurance like you said.[/QUOTE]

So again... would you address this issue?
With ACA can lawyers now sue doctors like they did before ACA?

Thus the $270 billion lawyers make each year would be dramatically reduced as no more medical malpractice.
The ONLY good that would come from that would be doctors wouldn't practice defensive medicine that the insurance companies gladly pay out as claims as it constantly raises premiums. This would save about $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate testings,etc. i.e. "defensive medicine".
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf

So with a single payer system no more suing the doctor.
All doctors working for standard government salary which is currently using the VA system..
Chart: High-paying government jobs - USATODAY.com
Veterans Health Administration Medical officer (doctor) of which there are 12,708 that each make over $180,000.
Chart: High-paying government jobs - USATODAY.com
Versus private practice average single family practice physician gross of $695,191...
200 Statistics on Physician Compensation

So I'm sure the 500,000 plus physicians will be happy to continue at the rate $180,000 per year as a Federal Employee.
And if there are physicians willing to settle for nearly 1/3 what they were making their quality would still be the same???
But those people that know better including the "smartest" President among others favoring "Universal single payer system" they know better!

The above scenario would mean the immense $850 billion in "defensive medicine" costs would be cut DRAMATICALLY...
again that is if ALL doctors were now federal physicians and could not be sued.
Great idea then...
Lawyers lose a good portion of their $270 billion a year... all by bankrupting 1,400 companies, that pay $100 billion in taxes and employing 450,000 people.

 

[PredFan]

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I didn't ask you if you would consider it, I'm just pointing out that she has one. Dispite claims to the contrary.

Finding out a few things just yesterday about Carly , I would rather have Trump at least he doesn't tell bold faced lies. I am glad that you like her, but you may change your mind once her twisted half truths to bold faced lies come out.

Not a problem if you are not a Late Enrollee. However, the contract also contained a clause that said that your employer could not keep you insured under the policy beyond a stated period of time, if you are not "Actively at work". That period of time was usually 90 days. "Actively at work" was usually defined as working at least 30 hours per week.Therefore, if you were fighting leukemia, like my wife's first husband, and could not go to work, he had to be removed from the insurance after 90 days. After that, he could purchase a COBRA individual policy, for up to 18 months. After that, he was offered an automatic guaranteed issue conversion policy, but, if you had to ask how much it cost, you could not afford it.

I don't understand ...We were not late enrollees, my husband made sure of that . Otherwise they would have kicked our buttes out the door. I recall it being very high deductibles at first and then when having to apply for our next year's insurance we were going to be denied , but thankfully the law came about.

Was he covered under group insurance or individual insurance?

Individual, he has a independent small office as an attorney , this all came about when the economy was still pretty bad. His practice was hurting as people held back on any legal issues plus ( another thread ) big law firms were taking over the internet search.
Now he is back to being busy. It was a stressful time.
This time around with my 2nd diagnosis ( cancer spread to the lymph nodes ) things are not as hard with Obamacare and the economy almost back to normal in the San Francisco bay are.

I'm a little out of date on Individual health insurance policies. My career was mostly in group health, The last time that I was in individual health, policies were guaranteed renewable, unless the insurer cancelled all of them (they could not just cancel individual people). Most companies got out of the individual health business by the early 1980's. I, personally, canceled all of ours, at the company I worked for in 1985. Because of the required guaranteed renewal clause, they were money losers for insurance companies. I am guessing that your husband's insurer were canceling all of certain policies and replacing them with policies with higher deductibles, and eventually getting rid of all of them, altogether.

Yes, that is exactly what happened.

I think he regrets being an independent lawyer in these times due to the insurance costs and being with a firm you get the large group insurance like you said.[/QUOTE]

I liked her at the debates, but I haven't decided for sure. Yes, some disheartening things have come to light.

 

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Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, Kerry, and Hillary have been telling lies for almost a decade and all of a sudden now the left is acting like truth and honesty matters.

 

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"I think he regrets being an independent lawyer in these times due to the insurance costs and being with a firm you get the large group insurance like you said."

Employer provided group health insurance will rapidly disappear. The US is the only country that saddles employers with the responsibility to pay a major portion of employee group insurance costs. While the employer paid cost is tax deductible, it is becoming prohibitively expensive, since health care costs have always outstriped inflation indexes for other costs. Ford has been paying more per car for employee health insurance than they pay for steel, since 1977. This makes the US uncompetitive in the world market.