Cherokee Nation Members Troubled By Trump’s Visit To Andrew Jackson’s Tomb

[Iceweasel]

When did they go from being proud warriors to whiny hand wringing women?

Probably right after the palefaces kicked their asses from one coast of North America to the other and took all their land in the process.

That sort of thing tends to make one a bit bitchy.

Explain to me which part of the world you believe that didn't happen? That's the history of mankind, waring all throughout our existence. One side wins, the other loses. Sometimes the losers were totally eliminated.

Uh-huh and sometimes the losers become "whiny hand wringing women" ; which was the answer I gave to the question you posted.

Liar. You attempted to obfuscate the point and now you see how devoid of thought it was so you want to make it look like a shortcoming on my part.

You are neither clever or honest. As always.

LOL, that time of the month weasel ? Your tampon making your nether regions all itchy and irritated again?

Maybe you should put down your keyboard and try getting outdoors for a change, might grant you something approximating perspective.

Hey fuckface. Don't try your little menstruating girl routine on me. I asked when they became wimps, you jumped in and said it was because their land was taken. I asked where land wasn't taken and you can't say. That makes you a moron. And as I said a dishonest one because you have nothing but puerile insults at this point.

 

[Political Junky]

“We survived Andrew Jackson,” said one citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump saluted and laid a wreath" at the tomb of President Andrew Jackson" in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday. But Trump’s honoring of the former president ― part of a pattern he has displayed ― is troubling to descendants of the Cherokee people, who were violently removed from their land by Jackson’s policies.

Jackson was “an extremely dangerous man, and a destructive man, to not just Cherokee people, but Native people in general,” said Betsy Richards, an activist and citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Aligning with a president famous for “referring to us as savages" and “saying it’s a privilege for us to be removed off our lands,” said Richards, is “very much in line with how Trump is messaging a lot of his reactions to people of color.”

During the visit to Jackson’s mansion, Trump favorably compared himself to the former president. “What a great visit. Inspirational visit, I have to tell you. I’m a fan,” he said.

The president has also hung Jackson’s portrait" in the Oval Office, and his White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has compared" Trump’s movement to “Jackson’s populism.”

More: Cherokee Nation Members Troubled By Trump’s Visit To Andrew Jackson’s Tomb

Well, this is bizarre and troubling, to say the least. However, it helps confirm what many people already think about Trump.

Little wonder they were troubled.
Trump also said everyone compares him to Andrew Jackson, has anyone here heard that?

 

[Iceweasel]

Little wonder they were troubled.
Trump also said everyone compares him to Andrew Jackson, has anyone here heard that?

No, not me. When did Trump say that?

 

[The Original Tree]

“We survived Andrew Jackson,” said one citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump saluted and laid a wreath" at the tomb of President Andrew Jackson" in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday. But Trump’s honoring of the former president ― part of a pattern he has displayed ― is troubling to descendants of the Cherokee people, who were violently removed from their land by Jackson’s policies.

Jackson was “an extremely dangerous man, and a destructive man, to not just Cherokee people, but Native people in general,” said Betsy Richards, an activist and citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Aligning with a president famous for “referring to us as savages" and “saying it’s a privilege for us to be removed off our lands,” said Richards, is “very much in line with how Trump is messaging a lot of his reactions to people of color.”

During the visit to Jackson’s mansion, Trump favorably compared himself to the former president. “What a great visit. Inspirational visit, I have to tell you. I’m a fan,” he said.

The president has also hung Jackson’s portrait" in the Oval Office, and his White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has compared" Trump’s movement to “Jackson’s populism.”

More: Cherokee Nation Members Troubled By Trump’s Visit To Andrew Jackson’s Tomb

Well, this is bizarre and troubling, to say the least. However, it helps confirm what many people already think about Trump.

You do know Andrew Jackson was a Democrat and The Democrat Party voted for THE TRAIL OF TEARS and it was The Republicans that tried to stop Jackson from doing this, but were out voted on it.

You know that right?

And visiting a president's grave does not mean you agree with everything he did. Jackson did do some great things and was instrumental in helping to make this country what it is today.

But The Dem Party's Records on Human Rights has always been Piss Poor and they have a 200 year record of abuse to verify that even up to today.

 

[NightFox]

Probably right after the palefaces kicked their asses from one coast of North America to the other and took all their land in the process.

That sort of thing tends to make one a bit bitchy.

Explain to me which part of the world you believe that didn't happen? That's the history of mankind, waring all throughout our existence. One side wins, the other loses. Sometimes the losers were totally eliminated.

Uh-huh and sometimes the losers become "whiny hand wringing women" ; which was the answer I gave to the question you posted.

Liar. You attempted to obfuscate the point and now you see how devoid of thought it was so you want to make it look like a shortcoming on my part.

You are neither clever or honest. As always.

LOL, that time of the month weasel ? Your tampon making your nether regions all itchy and irritated again?

Maybe you should put down your keyboard and try getting outdoors for a change, might grant you something approximating perspective.

Hey fuckface. Don't try your little menstruating girl routine on me. I asked when they became wimps, you jumped in and said it was because their land was taken. I asked where land wasn't taken and you can't say. That makes you a moron. And as I said a dishonest one because you have nothing but puerile insults at this point.

LOL, You mad bro? maybe you should double up on that daily dose of Thorazine before you blow another gasket.

BTW here's a napkin to wipe all that foam off your lips.

 

[martybegan]

American injuns have so many advantages, set-asides, and subsides that the entire world is open to them. Economic opportunities abound. But instead of taking advantage of all these opportunities given to you by the white man, they Bitch, moan, and remain ungrateful. Yeah, that WalMart may be built on your ancient homestead, but so the fuck what? Progress means moving forward.

It is like the ridiculous DAPL protests. First of all, those injuns never owned that land. They had no deeds. They were squatters with nothing to offer the developing world. Also, there are already 8 pipelines running beneath the Missouri River and there has been no problem. What is the goddamn difference if we put one more there?

The bottom line is that these injuns are being used by the radicalized leftist scum to further their leftist ideology. They only care about the injuns to the extent their two sets of interests coincide. Outside of those parameters the leftist don't give a shit about the Indians.

The Indians are simple people. They want to protect their ancestors' spirits, the spirit of the buffalo, and their Indian lifestyle. You know what all that adds up to? It adds up to a bunch of lazy ass drunks who live off government money and remain in a perpetual state of anger and resentment. Well, fuck them. They get more handouts than blacks but are not even half as productive as blacks. If I had to rate all the ethnic groups in America I would put the American injuns dead last. These folks need to pull themselves together, take off the fucking feathers and boots, and integrate into our culture. As it currently stands, injuns are basicsally feral beasts still living in the 1600s. It is embarrassing having these people around.

Actually it's embarrasing having ignorami like you around. Had it not been for the indigenous people, the European settlers would have starved themselves out of their own similar ignorance.

Only that first wave, more were coming, and they could not be stopped.

 

[martybegan]

Wow, then Irish people must still hate Cromwell for slaughtering them too and selling hundreds of thousands of Irish children into slavery....NOT!

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Bascially they call him a Wanker, and that's about it.

 

[Iceweasel]

Explain to me which part of the world you believe that didn't happen? That's the history of mankind, waring all throughout our existence. One side wins, the other loses. Sometimes the losers were totally eliminated.

Uh-huh and sometimes the losers become "whiny hand wringing women" ; which was the answer I gave to the question you posted.

Liar. You attempted to obfuscate the point and now you see how devoid of thought it was so you want to make it look like a shortcoming on my part.

You are neither clever or honest. As always.

LOL, that time of the month weasel ? Your tampon making your nether regions all itchy and irritated again?

Maybe you should put down your keyboard and try getting outdoors for a change, might grant you something approximating perspective.

Hey fuckface. Don't try your little menstruating girl routine on me. I asked when they became wimps, you jumped in and said it was because their land was taken. I asked where land wasn't taken and you can't say. That makes you a moron. And as I said a dishonest one because you have nothing but puerile insults at this point.

LOL, You mad bro? maybe you should double up on that daily dose of Thorazine before you blow another gasket.

BTW here's a napkin to wipe all that foam off your lips.

"And as I said a dishonest one because you have nothing but puerile insults at this point."

 

[JimBowie1958]

Wow, then Irish people must still hate Cromwell for slaughtering them too and selling hundreds of thousands of Irish children into slavery....NOT!

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Bascially they call him a Wanker, and that's about it.

And I hear the color Orange isnt very popular either.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Andrew Jackson was an evil bastard who went against the Supreme Court's ruling that the Cherokee peoples were considered a dependent nation and thus couldn't be forcibly removed. Jackson didn't care about the Supreme Court's ruling and by forcibly removing the Cherokee west of the Mississippi, caused hundreds of deaths.
The talk about replacing him on the twenty dollar bill is a good thing, but the new person on the bill should be a Cherokee as an "in-your-face" stab at what he had done.

Maybe Trump can push the liberals west as well.......

Interesting point given the topic. Seeing as how broader working and middle class americans are now the 'new' colonized peoples of north america, they would do well to get their heads around the concept, it's their turn. We can expect the historical trajectory to continue; this ponzi scheme approach first visited the continent with Columbus, and it has always relied upon endless exploitation, extraction and subjugation. This is why america must now be at constant endless war around the globe to sustain itself, even in this shabby state of affairs. Colonial extraction of wealth from others through authoritarianism, violence, corporate state legislation, corporate state media propaganda, the illusion and theater of a corrupt political system, and a privately controlled economic system isolated from any ray of potential democratic representation.

"Removal" in some form or fashion? Better get used to it now. Or get up, it's awfully late. We already sat around and allowed the authorities to render us THE most incarcerated (no problem, it's a for profit business now, we don't mind at all) and surveilled population on the planet. Geographic removal is so old school, and I so hope you still believe your party will save you.

So you support illegal immigration because you think Americans deserve it?

Leftwingers are so stupid it defies comprehension. You only confirmed that Americans were right to vote for Trump and keep the Hildabeast out of office.

The personality sitting in the oval office has no bearing at all on this soceital trajectory, it began when this perceptual reality made landfall in North America. Don, Clinton; irrelevant. Goldman Sachs run white house either way. As I stated and as you utterly avoided:

Seeing as how broader working and middle class americans are now the 'new' colonized peoples of north america, they would do well to get their heads around the concept, it's their turn. We can expect the historical trajectory to continue; this ponzi scheme approach first visited the continent with Columbus, and it has always relied upon endless exploitation, extraction and subjugation. This is why america must now be at constant endless war around the globe to sustain itself, even in this shabby state of affairs. Colonial extraction of wealth from others through authoritarianism, violence, corporate state legislation, corporate state media propaganda, the illusion and theater of a corrupt political system, and a privately controlled economic system isolated from any ray of potential democratic representation.

"Removal" in some form or fashion? Better get used to it now. Or get up, it's awfully late. We already sat around and allowed the authorities to render us THE most incarcerated (no problem, it's a for profit business now, we don't mind at all) and surveilled population on the planet. Geographic removal is so old school, and I so hope you still believe your party will save you.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

“We survived Andrew Jackson,” said one citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump saluted and laid a wreath" at the tomb of President Andrew Jackson" in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday. But Trump’s honoring of the former president ― part of a pattern he has displayed ― is troubling to descendants of the Cherokee people, who were violently removed from their land by Jackson’s policies.

Jackson was “an extremely dangerous man, and a destructive man, to not just Cherokee people, but Native people in general,” said Betsy Richards, an activist and citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Aligning with a president famous for “referring to us as savages" and “saying it’s a privilege for us to be removed off our lands,” said Richards, is “very much in line with how Trump is messaging a lot of his reactions to people of color.”

During the visit to Jackson’s mansion, Trump favorably compared himself to the former president. “What a great visit. Inspirational visit, I have to tell you. I’m a fan,” he said.

The president has also hung Jackson’s portrait" in the Oval Office, and his White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has compared" Trump’s movement to “Jackson’s populism.”

More: Cherokee Nation Members Troubled By Trump’s Visit To Andrew Jackson’s Tomb

Well, this is bizarre and troubling, to say the least. However, it helps confirm what many people already think about Trump.

Little wonder they were troubled.
Trump also said everyone compares him to Andrew Jackson, has anyone here heard that?

Yes. I have heard it said that he is the same kind of populist as Jackson.

 

[bodecea]

“We survived Andrew Jackson,” said one citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump saluted and laid a wreath" at the tomb of President Andrew Jackson" in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday. But Trump’s honoring of the former president ― part of a pattern he has displayed ― is troubling to descendants of the Cherokee people, who were violently removed from their land by Jackson’s policies.

Jackson was “an extremely dangerous man, and a destructive man, to not just Cherokee people, but Native people in general,” said Betsy Richards, an activist and citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Aligning with a president famous for “referring to us as savages" and “saying it’s a privilege for us to be removed off our lands,” said Richards, is “very much in line with how Trump is messaging a lot of his reactions to people of color.”

During the visit to Jackson’s mansion, Trump favorably compared himself to the former president. “What a great visit. Inspirational visit, I have to tell you. I’m a fan,” he said.

The president has also hung Jackson’s portrait" in the Oval Office, and his White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has compared" Trump’s movement to “Jackson’s populism.”

More: Cherokee Nation Members Troubled By Trump’s Visit To Andrew Jackson’s Tomb

Well, this is bizarre and troubling, to say the least. However, it helps confirm what many people already think about Trump.

The one thing I do agree with you with was that Jackson was a POS when it came to his illegal treatment of Native Americans and also the ones who fought along side him as allies.

Plus his illegal military ventures into Spanish Florida to seize runaway slaves and to kill natives who sheltered them.

 

[bodecea]

Old Hickory did what he had to do. We really weren't all going to become the Na'vii. The natives really were savages. What did you think they were? This was a violent time. Pussies like those today would have been killed and barbecued. Andrew Jackson was a great president who not only had to fight indians but the British as well.

You have no clue, do you. The Cherokee were already on farms, dressing like whites, had created a written language and had their own Constitution. But the whites wanted their land.....so....................

 

[EvilCat Breath]

All this emoting over what was done hundreds of years ago in disgusting. It is a good thing that people long ago were not the same kind of fairies we have today. Hell, the Vikings would have been too afraid to go to sea. Cortez would have let his men be killed while he watched safely off shore.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Old Hickory did what he had to do. We really weren't all going to become the Na'vii. The natives really were savages. What did you think they were? This was a violent time. Pussies like those today would have been killed and barbecued. Andrew Jackson was a great president who not only had to fight indians but the British as well.

You have no clue, do you. The Cherokee were already on farms, dressing like whites, had created a written language and had their own Constitution. But the whites wanted their land.....so....................

So. Yes. They were relocated. It had to be done. That's what leaders do. They make hard decisions. It's only today that we have turned into fearful mice terrified of seeing or hearing anything. It's all triggers.

 

[MrShangles]

You liberals should use this information.
The ingens were not as advanced as the Whites and we concurred this land and took it. That's what happens when a more advanced group comes along, they concurred the weak. And this is why we need a strong military or we might be concurred.
Anyway ingens have casinos


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[williepete]

Imagine the heads exploding if someone laid a wreath on President Benjamin Harrison's grave.

"...seventeen were specifically for actions at Wounded Knee and one was for actions at both Wounded Knee and White Clay Creek, making it eighteen Medals of Honor awarded to soldiers for actions directly attributable to Wounded Knee."

The President of the United States of America, in the name of Congress, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to…

Gallantry in Action

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Screw the Indians. They were in the way of the White man's progress of building the nation. They should have been totally irradicated.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Imagine the heads exploding if someone laid a wreath on President Benjamin Harrison's grave.

"...seventeen were specifically for actions at Wounded Knee and one was for actions at both Wounded Knee and White Clay Creek, making it eighteen Medals of Honor awarded to soldiers for actions directly attributable to Wounded Knee."

The President of the United States of America, in the name of Congress, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to…

Gallantry in Action

Wounded Knee was one of the White man's finest moments in history. I would have loved to participated in the slaughter.

 

[Political Junky]

Imagine the heads exploding if someone laid a wreath on President Benjamin Harrison's grave.

"...seventeen were specifically for actions at Wounded Knee and one was for actions at both Wounded Knee and White Clay Creek, making it eighteen Medals of Honor awarded to soldiers for actions directly attributable to Wounded Knee."

The President of the United States of America, in the name of Congress, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to…

Gallantry in Action

Wounded Knee was one of the White man's finest moments in history. I would have loved to participated in the slaughter.

No doubt