China drops 'peaceful reunification' reference to Taiwan

Actually, they have a Navy of over 600 ships, and can quickly conscript civilian vessels for an invasion, if needed.

I don't think they will because the economic costs would be too high... but with both parties demonizing them and trying to screw with their economies, that calculus might change.

My wife showed me a video the other day where Americans were visiting China and talking about how nice it was and how everyone was so kind to them when they were over there, and then contrasted it with the shit that spews out of Faux News every day.
None of that compares to the 7th Fleet and the combined navies of Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines. They have only two carriers and they’re years away in readiness and at least a decade behind in technology. CCP rhetoric is just empty bluster, IMO.

#NOWUMAO
 
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It is our problem because china wants to control all of Asia starting with the South China Sea and then expanding to all of Asia from the Indian Ocean to Japan

That would not be in our best interests

Except there's no indication of that.

For instance, right now, Myanmar (the Country formerly known as Burma) has largely collapsed into anarchy, which would be a PERFECT opportunity for China to expand its influence in Asia. Yet they are largely keeping out of it, even though some factions in that civil war are kidnapping Chinese nationals.

Myanmar only has a population of 54 million, China could easily dominate them if they really wanted to.
 
None of that compares to the 7th Fleet and the combined navies of Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines. They have only two carriers and they’re re years away in readiness and at least a decade behind in technology. CCP rhetoric is just empty bluster, IMO.

Carriers are only useful if you are trying to project power far away from home. China really doesn't need carriers to fight a war around Taiwan, they can use landbased aircraft.

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Except there's no indication of that.

For instance, right now, Myanmar (the Country formerly known as Burma) has largely collapsed into anarchy, which would be a PERFECT opportunity for China to expand its influence in Asia. Yet they are largely keeping out of it, even though some factions in that civil war are kidnapping Chinese nationals.

Myanmar only has a population of 54 million, China could easily dominate them if they really wanted to.
It’s foolish to accept on faith that they’re not stirring the pot.

#FREETAIWAN
 
They have 140 in reserve and about 50 active, BUT they can also conscript a large number of civilian craft if needed.

They also have six airborne brigades.
Ever see film of D Day?
They had thousands

Beyond landing troops, you deed vessels that can land tanks and heavy equipment

I agree airborne would be more successful to land troops
But you still have to bring in tanks and heavy artillery as well as logistically support an invasion force.

I don’t think China is capable
 
It’s foolish to accept on faith that they’re not stirring the pot.

It's more foolish to stir up trouble with the world's largest country over an internal matter.

China has tried to broker peace between the Junta and various factions in Myanmar. The problem is that Myanmar has about 20 factions fighting this civil war on all sides, so the situation is fluid at best.
 
Except there's no indication of that.

For instance, right now, Myanmar (the Country formerly known as Burma) has largely collapsed into anarchy, which would be a PERFECT opportunity for China to expand its influence in Asia. Yet they are largely keeping out of it, even though some factions in that civil war are kidnapping Chinese nationals.

Myanmar only has a population of 54 million, China could easily dominate them if they really wanted to.
Just because you dont see it does not make it so

A military alliance is forming to oppose chinese expansion

Unless you think the rest of Asia is stupid and is unduly alarmed about china you need to rethink your opinion
 
It's more foolish to stir up trouble with the world's largest country over an internal matter.

China has tried to broker peace between the Junta and various factions in Myanmar. The problem is that Myanmar has about 20 factions fighting this civil war on all sides, so the situation is fluid at best.
China only does things for its own reasons, regardless of the what they say about international cooperation. China isn’t the power you seem to think it is. It’s economy, military and culture have been hollowed out by the CCP. Taiwan is the only real China left, now that Hong Kong has been destroyed.

#FREETAIWAN
 
Ever see film of D Day?
They had thousands

Beyond landing troops, you deed vessels that can land tanks and heavy equipment

I agree airborne would be more successful to land troops
But you still have to bring in tanks and heavy artillery as well as logistically support an invasion force.

I don’t think China is capable
That was in a time period where all sides fielded hundreds of divisions to fight wars.

Today, Armies are much smaller because they are harder to maintain.

Taiwan only has an active force of 180,000 troops. They cold mobilize another 1.6 million, but reservists usually need months to train to get up to speed.
 
Taiwan only has an active force of 180,000 troops. They cold mobilize another 1.6 million, but reservists usually need months to train to get up to speed.

Taiwan has 180,000 active troops on the ground in Taiwan.
There are 13 beaches suitable for a landing. Those beaches are surrounded by mountains with few passes to escape the beach. They are heavily mined

China has two million troops but must find a way to land them and supply them.

China has never fought a modern war or conducted an amphibious invasion

Taiwan would be a tough place to start
 
Again, do you really think Americans want to send their young men to die for some crappy islands in the South China Sea, you are delusional.

What people like you on both sides are likely to do is make WWIII inevitable by provoking China when we don't need to.
No, the countries in place can take care of that. The PLA is powerless, if they can’t get across the strait.

#CCPISDEGENERATE
 
That their military is designed to only be defensive, as a result of the treaty they signed in WWII.
You are not keeping up with current events

Beginning with PM Abe, Japan is working around that prohibation

They are building aircraft carrier with offensive capabilities along with new subs and surface ships

Even if Japan confines itself to the Sea of Japan (which it probably wont do) it will be a major adversary against communist china
 
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Also, the Japanese are not mere copycats like communist china

In electronics and other ways Japan has engineers and scientists who are capable of new ideas

So the Yellow Menace- aka the Middle Kingdom - will be constantly scrambling to keep up
 
You are not keeping up with current events

Beginning with PM Abe, Japan is working around that prohibation

They are building aircraft carrier with offensive capabilities along with new subs and surface ships

Even if Japan confines itself to the Sea of Japan (which it probably wont do) it will be a major adversary against communist china

Their "Aircraft carrier" is a joke. It's essentially a destroyer with a flight deck.

The problem is no one in Asia wants Japan to rearm. They all have fresh memories of Japan rampaging across Asia and killing millions of people.
 

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