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There is no rule that a State can't indict a sitting President....and Vance has investigated him the entire time!Actually they were after Trump for a number of crimes before he even entered politics. They held off while he ran for president in order not to influence the election. Then they had to hold to hold off because you could not indict a sitting president.When you go after your political enemies for political reasons, if you succeed they are political prisoners.
YOu do that to a former President and people will notice.
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But now that Trump is no longer protected by the DOJ OLC, or his hand picked AG, prosecutors all over are free to continue where they left off.
That fraud against the banks "OR" tax authorities.Dumbasses in this thread are claiming Trump is going to prison for fraud against the banks and tax authorities.
well Cohen said that the value of his real estate was lower for tax purposes then for loans....you know...hahhahhhahhList these crimes.Nobody wants Trump imprisoned for a crime he didn't do.I asked you a question. YOu refused to answer. Because the answer was yes, you would support having President Trump falsely imprisoned.
Because there are so many crimes he did do, why would one want false crimes prosecuted.
Yep...and they got nothing after Weisselberg fully cooperated years ago..tells us all we need to know about these recycled stories.
ah that crime....that crime that we don't know what to call it, or who's the victim, or have evidence to support...but that crime...hahahaThat fraud against the banks "OR" tax authorities.Dumbasses in this thread are claiming Trump is going to prison for fraud against the banks and tax authorities.
We don't know which one Trump swindled. But we know you can't value a property at $291 million to one entity, and $56 million to the other.
It was either bank fraud or tax fraud. We'll let the jury decide which one Trump ripped off, and for how much.
Trump has never disclosed his earnings from the Trump International.He's fin forms have been publicly available since 2015 when he filed them
Sure they do, and you have rights as wellThey do if they have the funds....basic common sense would tell me not to simply bend over and take it from the Govt....I guess some people, like yourself, will let Govt run all over your rights, an abuse their power...but some people love freedom...some people don't I guess.Because he has a right to do so....and he won against the Congressional witch hunt. He has a right to protect his rights.The IRS taxes your income for a year, not what you are overall worth.....you can be taxed on cap gains, but not that's not gonna happen until that real estate is soldThe IRS doesn't collect property taxes. They don't value your real estate. State and local authorities do, and they conduct their own appraisalInteresting, so they started investigating in 2011, after he filed, concluded it in 2014...with nothing against Trump...and then in 2016...the year he won the Oval, the Obama admin reopened it....and since 2016...what do you know..still nothing from the Committee, even though it's been under Dem control.Nope, the IRS had the tax returns, as did the State of NY Tax Department....they have investigators at both agencies.um, he was investigated....repeatedly, often, over and over again. He wasn't hiding anywhere, his taxes were all filed with the Govt agencieswow...five years and we are just at the "tip of the iceberg" - and this is it? nothing? hahahaWhy should he go to jail over this accusation? I mean if this is all the left wing's investigation has turned up.....it's a big zeroTrump will not go to jail over this.
As usual, he will deny any knowledge, blame others, blame a witch hunt
He will be fined, he will tie it up in appeals and ultimately not pay.
Rinse/Repeat
It is just the tip of the iceberg
The TRUMP empire is a House of Cards built on the TRUMP name and false valuations of assets
This is just the first card
I've heard your line before over and over again the past five years,,,with a big zero in the end
Trump has been hiding for five years.
You can’t investigate ME.....I am the PRESIDENT
Well, he ain’t the President anymore
Private Citizen Trump now has to pay the piper
That is false. His financial records were sealed to investigators untill very recently and IRS has open case against him.
His Fin records, were already public, available since 2016 to review to anyone.....
DocumentCloud
www.documentcloud.org
READ: Trump’s 2018 financial disclosure
The Office of Government Ethics on Thursday released President Trump’s personal financial disclosure documents for 2018, showing multimillion-dollar assets.thehill.com
I could go on.....
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
and yes it does appear he was under audit like he said.
Criminal investigation into Trump inflating his asset values for financial leverage, while at the same time under-valuing them to IRS would be directly relvant to this despute.
Access to Trump's financial records to that end has only been granted very recently, after he left the WH.
Supreme Court rejects Trump effort to shield tax records from NY prosecutors
The Supreme Court rejected a last-ditch bid by former President Trump to keep years of his tax returns out of the hands of Manhattan DA Cy Vance Jr.www.cnbc.com
Trump has filed Fin disclosures yearly since 2016, they are public, and have been
IRS taxes income which sometimes has to do with your asset valuations.
Bottom line is that Trump is under investigations in NY and there is open case over 70 million dollar tax liability.
"Financial disclosures" are far from a complete financial record make and are in a lot of ways ambiguous:
for exmaple:
Trump claims on his new disclosures that in 2018, the property generated income of $75,962,848. His forms from last year say the course generated $74,755,375 in 2017. That's about in line with the $75 million total revenue the Trump Organization claimed to Miami-Dade County tax officials in 2017, according to a Washington Post report this week.
But the company told Miami authorities that net operating income -- profit, that is -- fell from $13.8 million to $4.3 million, according to the Post. That's a clear indication that what Trump himself took home from Doral -- his personal income -- was much less than the amount he listed as "income" on his OGE form.
What Trump's financial disclosures do, and don't, tell us | CNN Politics
President Donald Trump reported this week to the Office of Government Ethics that he and his businesses took in $434 million in 2018.www.cnn.com
Yes, Trump has been under investigation by Vance for 5 years now, and he still has nothing.
Is it possible he owns more in taxes another audit? Maybe, but ok.....that happens...nothing criminal about that
Why is Trump going all the way to Supreme Court to prevent investigators from getting his financial records?
Because there is probably something criminal about it, duh.
Exercising your rights, doesn't mean you are a criminal.......duh....
you sound very much like the a tyrant with your post....
??? It's called common sense - use it.
People don't usually spend that much effort and money to avoid basic compliance with an investigation unless there is something damaging to be discovered.
Horsecrap. Government has a right to duly investigate you.
Trump's lawyer has testified under oath to Congress about Trump engaging in fraud and you won't even allow for possiblity that the reason Trump is fighting tooth and nail to not comply with the criminal investigation is due to actual guilt? Ridiculous.
Kids, this is your brain on Trumpism.
yes, the ex-lawyer his admin prosecuted....and yes the Dems brought him out of jail to testify before them...what's your point? that was years ago, and they still can't find any evidence to support criminal charges??
Banks don't take valuations from someone looking for a loan, Stupid.That fraud against the banks "OR" tax authorities.Dumbasses in this thread are claiming Trump is going to prison for fraud against the banks and tax authorities.
We don't know which one Trump swindled. But we know you can't value a property at $291 million to one entity, and $56 million to the other.
It was either bank fraud or tax fraud. We'll let the jury decide which one Trump ripped off, and for how much.
yep, because the Trump admin prosecuted him...he's a criminal....Yep...and they got nothing after Weisselberg fully cooperated years ago..tells us all we need to know about these recycled stories.
What do you mean nothing. Michael Cohen went to jail.
Do criminals list their ill gotten gains as income on their taxes? Nope.
Once again, Trump doesn't set those valuations, Stupid.well Cohen said that the value of his real estate was lower for tax purposes then for loans....you know...hahhahhhahhList these crimes.Nobody wants Trump imprisoned for a crime he didn't do.I asked you a question. YOu refused to answer. Because the answer was yes, you would support having President Trump falsely imprisoned.
Because there are so many crimes he did do, why would one want false crimes prosecuted.
I never said he didn't...anytime there is Govt probe, there is legal exposureSure they do, and you have rights as wellThey do if they have the funds....basic common sense would tell me not to simply bend over and take it from the Govt....I guess some people, like yourself, will let Govt run all over your rights, an abuse their power...but some people love freedom...some people don't I guess.Because he has a right to do so....and he won against the Congressional witch hunt. He has a right to protect his rights.The IRS taxes your income for a year, not what you are overall worth.....you can be taxed on cap gains, but not that's not gonna happen until that real estate is soldThe IRS doesn't collect property taxes. They don't value your real estate. State and local authorities do, and they conduct their own appraisalInteresting, so they started investigating in 2011, after he filed, concluded it in 2014...with nothing against Trump...and then in 2016...the year he won the Oval, the Obama admin reopened it....and since 2016...what do you know..still nothing from the Committee, even though it's been under Dem control.Nope, the IRS had the tax returns, as did the State of NY Tax Department....they have investigators at both agencies.um, he was investigated....repeatedly, often, over and over again. He wasn't hiding anywhere, his taxes were all filed with the Govt agencieswow...five years and we are just at the "tip of the iceberg" - and this is it? nothing? hahahaWhy should he go to jail over this accusation? I mean if this is all the left wing's investigation has turned up.....it's a big zeroTrump will not go to jail over this.
As usual, he will deny any knowledge, blame others, blame a witch hunt
He will be fined, he will tie it up in appeals and ultimately not pay.
Rinse/Repeat
It is just the tip of the iceberg
The TRUMP empire is a House of Cards built on the TRUMP name and false valuations of assets
This is just the first card
I've heard your line before over and over again the past five years,,,with a big zero in the end
Trump has been hiding for five years.
You can’t investigate ME.....I am the PRESIDENT
Well, he ain’t the President anymore
Private Citizen Trump now has to pay the piper
That is false. His financial records were sealed to investigators untill very recently and IRS has open case against him.
His Fin records, were already public, available since 2016 to review to anyone.....
DocumentCloud
READ: Trump’s 2018 financial disclosure
The Office of Government Ethics on Thursday released President Trump’s personal financial disclosure documents for 2018, showing multimillion-dollar assets.
I could go on.....
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
and yes it does appear he was under audit like he said.
Criminal investigation into Trump inflating his asset values for financial leverage, while at the same time under-valuing them to IRS would be directly relvant to this despute.
Access to Trump's financial records to that end has only been granted very recently, after he left the WH.
Supreme Court rejects Trump effort to shield tax records from NY prosecutors
The Supreme Court rejected a last-ditch bid by former President Trump to keep years of his tax returns out of the hands of Manhattan DA Cy Vance Jr.
Trump has filed Fin disclosures yearly since 2016, they are public, and have been
IRS taxes income which sometimes has to do with your asset valuations.
Bottom line is that Trump is under investigations in NY and there is open case over 70 million dollar tax liability.
"Financial disclosures" are far from a complete financial record make and are in a lot of ways ambiguous:
for exmaple:
Trump claims on his new disclosures that in 2018, the property generated income of $75,962,848. His forms from last year say the course generated $74,755,375 in 2017. That's about in line with the $75 million total revenue the Trump Organization claimed to Miami-Dade County tax officials in 2017, according to a Washington Post report this week.
But the company told Miami authorities that net operating income -- profit, that is -- fell from $13.8 million to $4.3 million, according to the Post. That's a clear indication that what Trump himself took home from Doral -- his personal income -- was much less than the amount he listed as "income" on his OGE form.
What Trump's financial disclosures do, and don't, tell us | CNN Politics
President Donald Trump reported this week to the Office of Government Ethics that he and his businesses took in $434 million in 2018.
Yes, Trump has been under investigation by Vance for 5 years now, and he still has nothing.
Is it possible he owns more in taxes another audit? Maybe, but ok.....that happens...nothing criminal about that
Why is Trump going all the way to Supreme Court to prevent investigators from getting his financial records?
Because there is probably something criminal about it, duh.
Exercising your rights, doesn't mean you are a criminal.......duh....
you sound very much like the a tyrant with your post....
??? It's called common sense - use it.
People don't usually spend that much effort and money to avoid basic compliance with an investigation unless there is something damaging to be discovered.
Horsecrap. Government has a right to duly investigate you.
Trump's lawyer has testified under oath to Congress about Trump engaging in fraud and you won't even allow for possiblity that the reason Trump is fighting tooth and nail to not comply with the criminal investigation is due to actual guilt? Ridiculous.
Kids, this is your brain on Trumpism.
yes, the ex-lawyer his admin prosecuted....and yes the Dems brought him out of jail to testify before them...what's your point? that was years ago, and they still can't find any evidence to support criminal charges??
My point is that you have to be Trump tool to not even allow for possiblity that Trump has legitimate legal exposure.
They can go back longer for "ongoing" criminal activities.but you said they only have 5 years.....2016 and on.....Just like Rome wasn't built in a day, financial crimes span many years.
Are you sure you have enough time?List these crimes.
most of it was full of pork and a take over of elections.
so, the State of NY has had his state tax filings for well...since he filed them...now they got his Federal stuff, that the Fed has had for, well since he filed them.....what is going to be in the Federal stuff, that the State of NY is going to use to prosecute him for State crimes?They can go back longer for "ongoing" criminal activities.but you said they only have 5 years.....2016 and on.....Just like Rome wasn't built in a day, financial crimes span many years.
Actually the DOJ office of legal counsel says a sitting president can't be indicted. They also said a president can't pardon himself.There is no rule that a State can't indict a sitting President....and Vance has investigated him the entire time!
Do criminals list their ill gotten gains as income on their taxes? Nope
yep, because the Trump admin prosecuted him...he's a criminal....Yep...and they got nothing after Weisselberg fully cooperated years ago..tells us all we need to know about these recycled stories.
What do you mean nothing. Michael Cohen went to jail.
www.nbcnews.com
It was either bank fraud or tax fraud. We'll let the jury decide which one Trump ripped off, and for how much.
Seven Springsah that crime....that crime that we don't know what to call it, or who's the victim, or have evidence to support...but that crime...hahaha
Which property did he do that with?
