Climate Change Has Run Its Course

[Confounding]

If we can't stop it, why bother?

We might be able to mitigate it and hold out for a long term solution if people like you could be convinced that it's worth doing.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

"i am one of the 97% of scientists that believe man is destroying our planet despite this cycle happening naturally. Now please excuse me while i go jump on my private jumbo jet that spews more co2 in 8 hours than you do all year, and be disingenuous to another group of useful idiots. Dont forget to sign the checks!"

If climate scientists are in it for the money, they’re doing it wrong


So, are there big bucks to be had in climate science? Since it doesn't have a lot of commercial appeal, most of the people working in the area, and the vast majority of those publishing the scientific literature, work in academic departments or at government agencies. Penn State, home of noted climatologists Richard Alley and Michael Mann, has a strong geosciences department and, conveniently, makes the department's salary information available. It's easy to check, and find that the average tenured professor earned about $120,000 last year, and a new hire a bit less than $70,000. That's a pretty healthy salary by many standards, but it's hardly a racket.

$70-120K is a lot better than $20K a year flipping burgers, which is what a lot of these people would be making if they weren't scamming.

Climategate I & II exposed the scam. The principal scientists were all manipulating and fabricating data to make it fit their screwed up computer modeling. Under the Obama Administration we found out that NOAA and NASA were doing the same damn thing. Also the UN Climate Committee.

If this AGW was real and significant then there would be no reason to lie about it, would it?

And you are the one lying. Every Scientific Society, every National Academia of Sciences, and every major University in the world states that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger Only morons like you try to pretend that there is some great international conspiracy to fool the rest of us. Don't forget the tinfoil for your little tin hats.

And they get big grant money too.

Once again proving what an ignorant cocksuck you are. Grants do not provide salaries or pay to the person that gets them, only the funds to pursue the research. All too many scientists get grants, then put their own money into the research to make up the difference between what they got and what is needed. This is exactly the same as saying that people join the armed forces only for the big bucks they receive.

U.S. Government Funding of Climate Change

 

[buckeye45_73]

It is great to see it has gone from the political sphere to consumer demand as folks have taken interest in environmental impact of the products and goods they buy. Its success mirrors the anti-cigarettes campaign. The government primed the pump, but business and industry has learned by now that the demand for energy efficiency and environmental friendliness has become a marketable selling point.

Not really, most people would still buy incandescent light bulbs...because they are cheaper......expensive green products, people don't want......they just don't care

Really dumb. Over the life of the light, LEDs are far cheaper than incandescent bulbs. Use far less electricity, last several times as long.

Hey dumbass.....they had to legislate out incandescents......why ?because people still wanted them.
you know for claiming you guys lovce poor people, you really don't understand them.
Global warming is an issue rich people do to feel like they are making a difference....but its the poor people that suffer with higher energy costs, lack of choice and higher prices on consumer goods.....all so (leftwing)rich people can feel good about themselves...it's really pathetic.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Of course, you are suspicious because you are too damned lazy to research the subject. Wind mills and utility solar that produce electricity cheaper than coal or natural gas is Communistic? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! And without the extreme expense and dangers of nuclear?

Look, I have no problem with pursuing alternative energy sources. I do have a problem with the wealth redistribution scheme that Al Gore, Obama, and the other leftists tried to cram down our throats. That is not a real solution. It's a communist scheme. You know it is.

The other issue is that wind mills and solar are MUCH less efficient than petroleum products. They always will be.

Fossil fuels changed the world forever. Until something else comes along that is better, we will always be dependent on fossil fuels.

Rather than trying to redistribute wealth, the AGW proponents should work on a free-market solution that will make fossil fuels obsolete.

 

[Crick]

It is great to see it has gone from the political sphere to consumer demand as folks have taken interest in environmental impact of the products and goods they buy. Its success mirrors the anti-cigarettes campaign. The government primed the pump, but business and industry has learned by now that the demand for energy efficiency and environmental friendliness has become a marketable selling point.

Not really, most people would still buy incandescent light bulbs...because they are cheaper......expensive green products, people don't want......they just don't care

LED bulbs are dramatically cheaper in the long run. That is what people will care about.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Do you not accept the greenhouse gas theory?

Do you not accept problem-solving theory?

 

[Crick]

Of course, you are suspicious because you are too damned lazy to research the subject. Wind mills and utility solar that produce electricity cheaper than coal or natural gas is Communistic? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! And without the extreme expense and dangers of nuclear?

Look, I have no problem with pursuing alternative energy sources. I do have a problem with the wealth redistribution scheme that Al Gore, Obama, and the other leftists tried to cram down our throats. That is not a real solution. It's a communist scheme. You know it is.

The other issue is that wind mills and solar are MUCH less efficient than petroleum products. They always will be.

Fossil fuels changed the world forever. Until something else comes along that is better, we will always be dependent on fossil fuels.

Rather than trying to redistribute wealth, the AGW proponents should work on a free-market solution that will make fossil fuels obsolete.

There's another name for a "wealth redistribution scheme": helping the poor.

Wind mills and solar require no fuel. That makes them infinitely more efficient than petroleum products.

Alternative energy technologies ARE free market solutions that will make fossil fuels obsolete.

 

[Old Rocks]

I believe in science, my father is a chemist.......you know real science...chemistry, biology, physics, stuff that can be proven, not studies with "consensus" there was scientific consensus the Sun revolved around the Earth at one point........doesn't make it real......Now gravity....that is real, I can prove it every time

Your father will be rolling in his grave. He produced a scientific illiterate.

He's still alive dipshit.....and I am no illiterate....I'm just not a sheep that follows some spoonfed socialist agenda. you guys use so many coercive tactics because people don't buy your bullshit......holly wood celebs cant move the ball, some made up consensus (again because many are afraid to speak out), and the fact that you guys have no data..


Sorry Al Gore the ice caps are still there!!!!
the propaganda film you made was just that a Goebbels masterpiece, but it still failed.

You are a scientific illiterate. You blindly accept 'Conservative' nonsense, without doing any research yourself. Again, the consensus is real, every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Sciences, and every major University has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. It is willfully ignorant people like you that have no data.

 

[buckeye45_73]

It is great to see it has gone from the political sphere to consumer demand as folks have taken interest in environmental impact of the products and goods they buy. Its success mirrors the anti-cigarettes campaign. The government primed the pump, but business and industry has learned by now that the demand for energy efficiency and environmental friendliness has become a marketable selling point.

Not really, most people would still buy incandescent light bulbs...because they are cheaper......expensive green products, people don't want......they just don't care

LED bulbs are dramatically cheaper in the long run. That is what people will care about.

WILL care......Not DO care........see look at this mindset...well you don't do what we want so we will force you.........yeah, that's why we don't like any of this shit.....we actually like freedom and the freedom of choice.........I do buy LEDs because of that......but I should have a choice and so should everyone......it's none of your business who buys what kind of lightbulb.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

"Global Warming" later revised to "Climate Change" was an extortion scam by the rest of the world to gain favorable treatment by chicken shit (mostly democrat) American politicians. Al Gore had no background in science but the (liberal) Nobel Committee awarded him the Peace Prize for no reason other than his anti-American policies. Since the climate change policies were mostly favored by democrats, the mainstream media refused to publish arguments and when it was found that data had been fudged or altered the media quickly buried the story. Nobody ever went after China for it's pollution because the U.S. was the intended target. Now that we have a President with a set of balls the international left and the crazy American left is in a tizzy.

Should be required reading for all children.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Of course, you are suspicious because you are too damned lazy to research the subject. Wind mills and utility solar that produce electricity cheaper than coal or natural gas is Communistic? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! And without the extreme expense and dangers of nuclear?

Look, I have no problem with pursuing alternative energy sources. I do have a problem with the wealth redistribution scheme that Al Gore, Obama, and the other leftists tried to cram down our throats. That is not a real solution. It's a communist scheme. You know it is.

The other issue is that wind mills and solar are MUCH less efficient than petroleum products. They always will be.

Fossil fuels changed the world forever. Until something else comes along that is better, we will always be dependent on fossil fuels.

Rather than trying to redistribute wealth, the AGW proponents should work on a free-market solution that will make fossil fuels obsolete.

There's another name for a "wealth redistribution scheme": helping the poor.

Wind mills and solar require no fuel. That makes them infinitely more efficient than petroleum products.

Alternative energy technologies ARE free market solutions that will make fossil fuels obsolete.

And poor people can't afford them.

 

[cnm]

And Al Gore is a what ?

Do you get your climate science from Al Gore? What a maroon.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We might be able to mitigate it and hold out for a long term solution if people like you could be convinced that it's worth doing.

Well, that's the real trick, isn't it. Because, unlike many, I demand complete analysis. I demand that a problem (and its causes) be thoroughly analysed and any proposed solutions to be the least burdensome and most effective.

Am I wrong for demanding that solutions actually do something more than simply force businesses to buy and sell credits that have zero affect on anything but the wallets of people like Al Gore?

 

[cnm]

Wait do you know the point of science is to prove it exists.

Jesus.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I believe in science, my father is a chemist.......you know real science...chemistry, biology, physics, stuff that can be proven, not studies with "consensus" there was scientific consensus the Sun revolved around the Earth at one point........doesn't make it real......Now gravity....that is real, I can prove it every time

Your father will be rolling in his grave. He produced a scientific illiterate.

He's still alive dipshit.....and I am no illiterate....I'm just not a sheep that follows some spoonfed socialist agenda. you guys use so many coercive tactics because people don't buy your bullshit......holly wood celebs cant move the ball, some made up consensus (again because many are afraid to speak out), and the fact that you guys have no data..


Sorry Al Gore the ice caps are still there!!!!
the propaganda film you made was just that a Goebbels masterpiece, but it still failed.

You are a scientific illiterate. You blindly accept 'Conservative' nonsense, without doing any research yourself. Again, the consensus is real, every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Sciences, and every major University has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. It is willfully ignorant people like you that have no data.

No you are an idiot....you are the one blindly accepting

Which one of Al Gores items in his movie came true?
Are we past the tipping point?
Have the water levels gotten higher since his movie? or since the 70s/80s when they started this crap?
Ice cap is still there

Literally none of this has come true...all you have are some theoretical models.......We cant predict the weather tomorrow, but you want me to trust you on climate change and change everything about how we live....you are certifiably nuts.

How much money did the sequel make? do people even know it exists?
And yes Gore made tons of money off carbon credits......and his entire fortune (the part he didn't inherit from his daddy) is due to this hoax.
Blood And Gore: Making A Killing On Anti-Carbon Investment Hype

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So, what is the AGW gang wanting from me to "reverse" this "planet-destroying" phenomenon? What will be my obligations and burdens?

That you tend to vote for politicians who believe action needs to be taken to reduce CO2 emissions.

What are these actions "action needs to be taken to reduce CO2 emissions", Honey BooBoo?

What does your lab work show as the target reduction to stop Climate Change?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

There's another name for a "wealth redistribution scheme": helping the poor.

Communism?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

^ Guam, still upright

 

[cnm]

You are asking me to accept the conclusions and suffer the consequences of those conclusions

No I am not. I am asking you whether you accept this evidence. And if not, what evidence do you have in its place. Those are simple questions, Shirley?

Global Temperature

 

[cnm]

Do you not accept problem-solving theory?

The first step of which is to recognise the problem? Absolutely. But keep running.