CNBC: Democrats quickly call for tighter gun laws after Las Vegas shooting massacre

[jon_berzerk]

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Bump firing is a well-established capability that uses the recoil of a semi-automatic firearm to fire multiple shots in rapid succession. The patented Slide Fire® rifle stock allows shooters to safely and accurately bump fire their rifles without compromising safety and accuracy.

The Slide Fire® stock is fun, exciting and entertaining. As always, practice safe firearm procedures when using any firearm. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has approved the Slide Fire stock where firearms are legal. Our patented technology allows for an alternate shooting technique whereby safe, reliable rapid fire is possible.

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like this is some sort of "news" to a gun guy

--LOL

a much better system is the binary trigger

takes some getting used to

Evidently, the shooter in Vegas was very familiar with them

Now, why does anyone need these firing ranges outside of shooting up a concert or maybe a classroom full of small children?

evil is evil

a car is is capable of killing hundreds

why does anyone need one

 

[rightwinger]

So....what do we know this morning?

The shooter did not have a machine gun. He had a semi-automatic rifle with what is called a bump stock device which allows firing in the 400-700 rpm range. He also had large capacity magazines to allow lengthy burst rates

So.....everything was perfectly legal and he had the tools he needed to rain down hell on thousands of concert goers


Now, gun lovers
Explain why you need these things

----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2nd Amendment RIGHTS need no explanation as the Second Amendment is an Americans RIGHT RWinger !!

Nice try

But even in the Heller Decision, the Supreme Court recognized you do not have the right to unlimited access to guns

 

[rightwinger]

i think that bump stock devices are perfectly legal , i think that 'batf' says so RWinger !!

They are legal....Why?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gunman Had 'Bump-stock' Device That Could Speed Fire

The gunman who unleashed hundreds of rounds of gunfire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas had two "bump-stocks" that could have converted semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic ones, officials said.

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

The device basically replaces the gun's shoulder rest, with a "support step" that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter's finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, "bumping" the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.

"This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute," she said.


A semi-automatic weapon requires one trigger pull for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, one trigger pull can unleash continuous rounds until the magazine is empty.

Thank you.

Still not an illegal modification though.

I don't think it really would have mattered since anyone can fire 400 to 500 rounds a minute without such a device

If you have a weapon that can fire 400-500 rpm without modification, we need to look at banning those weapons as well as the devices

Why?

Any semiauto will fire one round for every trigger pull.

The rate is only determined by how fast your finger is.

 

[rightwinger]

It's A Happy Dance For Gun-Control Advocates:

No, it is not a "happy dance"

It is just another case of "why do we have to keep going through this shit?"

 

[JoeB131]

No, more like what dark times we live in when evil has the control over the good.

If you define "good" as white and "evil" as non-white, I can see why you are pissing yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

Gunman Had 'Bump-stock' Device That Could Speed Fire

The gunman who unleashed hundreds of rounds of gunfire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas had two "bump-stocks" that could have converted semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic ones, officials said.

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

The device basically replaces the gun's shoulder rest, with a "support step" that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter's finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, "bumping" the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.

"This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute," she said.


A semi-automatic weapon requires one trigger pull for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, one trigger pull can unleash continuous rounds until the magazine is empty.

Thank you.

Still not an illegal modification though.

I don't think it really would have mattered since anyone can fire 400 to 500 rounds a minute without such a device

If you have a weapon that can fire 400-500 rpm without modification, we need to look at banning those weapons as well as the devices

Why?

Any semiauto will fire one round for every trigger pull.

The rate is only determined by how fast your finger is.

If we are obtaining firing rates above 500 rpm with semi-automatic rifles, we need to re-examine the legality of those weapons

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gunman Had 'Bump-stock' Device That Could Speed Fire

The gunman who unleashed hundreds of rounds of gunfire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas had two "bump-stocks" that could have converted semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic ones, officials said.

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

The device basically replaces the gun's shoulder rest, with a "support step" that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter's finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, "bumping" the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.

"This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute," she said.


A semi-automatic weapon requires one trigger pull for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, one trigger pull can unleash continuous rounds until the magazine is empty.

Thank you.

Still not an illegal modification though.

I don't think it really would have mattered since anyone can fire 400 to 500 rounds a minute without such a device

If you have a weapon that can fire 400-500 rpm without modification, we need to look at banning those weapons as well as the devices

Why?

Any semiauto will fire one round for every trigger pull.

The rate is only determined by how fast your finger is.

If we are obtaining firing rates above 500 rpm with semi-automatic rifles, we need to re-examine the legality of those weapons

Maybe we need to ban index fingers

That rate is possible but impractical

Your car can go 100 mph but you don't drive that fast on a daily basis

 

[Wyatt earp]

Other countries have cars kill people. Other countries have knives kill people. We have lots of mass shootings. We have cops being killed every week. We have hundreds die from accidental shootings. This is a US problem.

We need a US solution.

MORE GUNS, NOT LESS.

Tried that, not working:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

You must not be smart enough to learn from mistakes.

And what's fueling the violence ? People not having no respect or honor.

 

[iceberg]

so - just what laws need to be passed?

-10 for anyone who proposes a law already on the books.

 

[rightwinger]

Gunman Had 'Bump-stock' Device That Could Speed Fire

The gunman who unleashed hundreds of rounds of gunfire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas had two "bump-stocks" that could have converted semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic ones, officials said.

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

The device basically replaces the gun's shoulder rest, with a "support step" that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter's finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, "bumping" the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.

"This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute," she said.


A semi-automatic weapon requires one trigger pull for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, one trigger pull can unleash continuous rounds until the magazine is empty.

Thank you.

Still not an illegal modification though.

I don't think it really would have mattered since anyone can fire 400 to 500 rounds a minute without such a device

If you have a weapon that can fire 400-500 rpm without modification, we need to look at banning those weapons as well as the devices

Why?

Any semiauto will fire one round for every trigger pull.

The rate is only determined by how fast your finger is.

If we are obtaining firing rates above 500 rpm with semi-automatic rifles, we need to re-examine the legality of those weapons

Maybe we need to ban index fingers

That rate is possible but impractical

Your car can go 100 mph but you don't drive that fast on a daily basis

We saw on Sunday that those rates are not only possible but sustainable

Question is: Why do we allow that much firepower in private hands?

 

[pismoe]

So....what do we know this morning?

The shooter did not have a machine gun. He had a semi-automatic rifle with what is called a bump stock device which allows firing in the 400-700 rpm range. He also had large capacity magazines to allow lengthy burst rates

So.....everything was perfectly legal and he had the tools he needed to rain down hell on thousands of concert goers


Now, gun lovers
Explain why you need these things

----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2nd Amendment RIGHTS need no explanation as the Second Amendment is an Americans RIGHT RWinger !!

Nice try

But even in the Heller Decision, the Supreme Court recognized you do not have the right to unlimited access to guns

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----------------------------------------------------------------- well we gotta change that RWinger !! Until we change that , we gunowners have what we want while you gun banners walk around in a state of total aggravation RWinger . [chuckle]

 

[rightwinger]

so - just what laws need to be passed?

-10 for anyone who proposes a law already on the books.

Based on Sundays shooting

- Ban devices that allow you to modify semi-automatics to fire at high rates
- Ban magazines larger than 20 rounds

 

[rightwinger]

So....what do we know this morning?

The shooter did not have a machine gun. He had a semi-automatic rifle with what is called a bump stock device which allows firing in the 400-700 rpm range. He also had large capacity magazines to allow lengthy burst rates

So.....everything was perfectly legal and he had the tools he needed to rain down hell on thousands of concert goers


Now, gun lovers
Explain why you need these things

----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2nd Amendment RIGHTS need no explanation as the Second Amendment is an Americans RIGHT RWinger !!

Nice try

But even in the Heller Decision, the Supreme Court recognized you do not have the right to unlimited access to guns

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----------------------------------------------------------------- well we gotta change that RWinger !! Until we change that , we gunowners have what we want while you gun banners walk around in a state of total aggravation RWinger . [chuckle]

Why are you [chuckling] about a massacre that killed 59 people?

Ha! Ha! ....nothing you can do about it

 

[pismoe]

i think that bump stock devices are perfectly legal , i think that 'batf' says so RWinger !!

They are legal....Why?

-------------------------------------------------------------- because Americans want them and because they were invented and because they are legal . Who in the he11 needs a pocket cellphone , i was very happy with a 'landline' . Who in the he11 needs electric windows in a 'kia soul' , who in the he11 needs a 'kia soul' . I was very happy with GTO , 442 and Roadrunners RWinger !!

 

[iceberg]

so - just what laws need to be passed?

-10 for anyone who proposes a law already on the books.

Based on Sundays shooting

- Ban devices that allow you to modify semi-automatics to fire at high rates
- Ban magazines larger than 20 rounds

bump devices - i can see that being banned. but i can't see people stopping from doing it. now, if this mans desire was to have this functionality, how will the ban stop him from doing it? if he's ready to kill / hurt 600+ people, will he stop cause we got clever and banned the functionality? or do we just add it to his list of crimes we can put on his tombstone?

>20 capacity mags. he had what, an hour up there? i don't think higher capacity mags made a difference here. i'm not debating whether or not this should or should not be done, i'm asking what can we do based on what happened to keep him or anyone from doing that.

so i don't see how if this were in effect it would have stopped a thing or reduced casualties. it's just doing something to say "well we tried". admirable, sure. but would it have made a difference?

 

[Rustic]

Senators, including some who once voted against an assault-weapon ban are jumping on the gun control band-wagon.

The "assault weapons" which were the target of yesterday's gun-ban advocates were not in fact assault weapons but ordinary semi-automatic sporting rifles that look like real assault weapons, the critical difference being the primary characteristic of any true assault weapon is fully automatic function. What today's (Las Vegas) shooter used is a true, fully automatic assault weapon.

While time and circumstances have caught up with and corrected a critically ignorant mistake the important point in this distinction is the true assault weapon has always been illegal. What yesterday's ignorant gun-ban advocates were calling for was a stupidly redundant effort to ban ordinary semi-automatic sporting rifles (e.g., AR-15, etc) -- which are not assault weapons.

Let's see if they only "look" like assault weapons or are easily modified to become assault weapons

The monster was firing at 600 rounds per minute. Awfully fast for a semiautomatic

Only an uninformed fool thinks ars are easily modified to shoot full auto...

Ummmmm....Guess what?

The guy used an AR type weapon with a large capacity magazine and a bump stock
The bump stock allows firing in the 400-700 rpm range


Question?
Why is this legal?

it is certainly not a machine gun nor full auto

At 400-800 rpm it might just as well be

Why does anyone legally need those firing ranges?

No one "needs" a car, but owning a firearm is a right

 

[Rustic]

Thank you.

Still not an illegal modification though.

I don't think it really would have mattered since anyone can fire 400 to 500 rounds a minute without such a device

If you have a weapon that can fire 400-500 rpm without modification, we need to look at banning those weapons as well as the devices

Why?

Any semiauto will fire one round for every trigger pull.

The rate is only determined by how fast your finger is.

If we are obtaining firing rates above 500 rpm with semi-automatic rifles, we need to re-examine the legality of those weapons

Maybe we need to ban index fingers

That rate is possible but impractical

Your car can go 100 mph but you don't drive that fast on a daily basis

We saw on Sunday that those rates are not only possible but sustainable

Question is: Why do we allow that much firepower in private hands?

It isn't up to you is it? Lol

 

[Rustic]

While time and circumstances have caught up with and corrected a critically ignorant mistake the important point in this distinction is the true assault weapon has always been illegal. What yesterday's ignorant gun-ban advocates were calling for was a stupidly redundant effort to ban ordinary semi-automatic sporting rifles (e.g., AR-15, etc) -- which are not assault weapons.

And what good reason is there for anyone to own an AR-15, which was SPECIFICALLY designed for use on a battlefield?

The AR platform is a wonderful varmint sporting rifle…

 

[Rustic]

http://www.slidefire.com/

Bump firing is a well-established capability that uses the recoil of a semi-automatic firearm to fire multiple shots in rapid succession. The patented Slide Fire® rifle stock allows shooters to safely and accurately bump fire their rifles without compromising safety and accuracy.

The Slide Fire® stock is fun, exciting and entertaining. As always, practice safe firearm procedures when using any firearm. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has approved the Slide Fire stock where firearms are legal. Our patented technology allows for an alternate shooting technique whereby safe, reliable rapid fire is possible.

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With really shitty accuracy... please inform yourself next time. Dip shit