Colorado Rigging Next Election

[OKTexas]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

Are you saying WI had laws that only applied to minorities? I'd like to see proof of that, you got a link?

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[OKTexas]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

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[BULLDOG]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

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The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

 

[Cellblock2429]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

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The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

 

[BULLDOG]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

.

The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

Oh my. The Federalist said voter fraud is a thing. What a surprise.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

.

The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

Oh my. The Federalist said voter fraud is a thing. What a surprise.

/----/ Ignoring the illegal voting was an oversight by you, I presume.

BTW
Kobach: Democrats Finally Acknowledge That Voter Fraud Exists | Breitbart

 

[BULLDOG]

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

.

The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

Oh my. The Federalist said voter fraud is a thing. What a surprise.

/----/ Ignoring the illegal voting was an oversight by you, I presume.

BTW
Kobach: Democrats Finally Acknowledge That Voter Fraud Exists | Breitbart

Ah , yes, Kobach. Your link is from January, but why didn't you follow the case and his claims to the conclusion in June? You know, when the judge ruled that his claims were crap and ruled against him.
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed — ProPublica

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

.

The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

Oh my. The Federalist said voter fraud is a thing. What a surprise.

/----/ Ignoring the illegal voting was an oversight by you, I presume.

BTW
Kobach: Democrats Finally Acknowledge That Voter Fraud Exists | Breitbart

Ah , yes, Kobach. Your link is from January, but why didn't you follow the case and his claims to the conclusion in June? You know, when the judge ruled that his claims were crap and ruled against him.
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed — ProPublica

/——/ You screamed about Russian interference for 2 years but ignore illegals voting.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What Agreement do you think they are entering into? Their decision is just for their state, and is not binding on any other state, just as no other state has any binding agreements on them.

You are not correct. There is a long line of Supreme Court jurisprudence interpreting the Interstate Compacts clause, and while I don't have time to pull the citations and the relevant language from the decisions, long story short, the high court has found agreements to be in violation of the clause where it has the effect of consolidating power, including political influence, in such a way as to diminish or impede upon the rights of other states that are not parties to the agreement. While this particular agreement has not come before the court (obviously), there are a number of decisions that involve circumstances that are analogous enough to conclude that the Supreme Court would find the NPVA to be in violation of the Constitution. And I don't think it would even be a close decision. I will create a thread on this when I have the time to pull the cases and write it up.

Except it's not impeding on the rights of the other states. You would have to prove that this is somehow impeding the rights of states that are not part of this clause. It's not, since those other states can continue to vote as they see fit.

Of course, the Republican Supreme Court would look for the flimsiest reason to shoot this down. No one is pretending that the Supreme Court is impartial anymore.

Of course you're subverting the vote of other states.... by cheating in your own.
Not to mention the vote of the people in that particular state.

 

[BULLDOG]

The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Voter Fraud Is Real. Here’s The Proof
And then there are states registering illegals to vote -- that's fraud for ya.

Oh my. The Federalist said voter fraud is a thing. What a surprise.

/----/ Ignoring the illegal voting was an oversight by you, I presume.

BTW
Kobach: Democrats Finally Acknowledge That Voter Fraud Exists | Breitbart

Ah , yes, Kobach. Your link is from January, but why didn't you follow the case and his claims to the conclusion in June? You know, when the judge ruled that his claims were crap and ruled against him.
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed — ProPublica

/——/ You screamed about Russian interference for 2 years but ignore illegals voting.

Russia did interfere in our elections. That is proven. According to the judge, voter fraud was mostly just right wing whining without much to prove anything.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

Really? Explain how a state can make changes to how that state's Electoral College votes are determined and not violate the Constitution. I'm all ears!

Because there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that stipulates that a state must award its EC votes based on who wins the state's popular vote. There may be state laws that direct how EC votes are allocated, but there is nothing in the Constitution about this. And state laws can be changed, as Colorado just illustrated.

It's all about them states' rights, ain't it Repubs?

You are correct, however, with the stroke of a pen, the Colorado legislature has decided that the votes of its citizens do not count.

Yes, it may be legal, but is it right? Do you believe the voters in that state agree with this? To have your vote negated by a group of legislators?

I would think this would cause quite a stir in that state, especially if the majority of that state voted party A, but the votes were cast for party B.

 

[bendog]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

Really? Explain how a state can make changes to how that state's Electoral College votes are determined and not violate the Constitution. I'm all ears!

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.Article II, Section 1, Clause 2

 

[mudwhistle]

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

Are you saying WI had laws that only applied to minorities? I'd like to see proof of that, you got a link?

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Black Folks don't got no proper I. D.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,

That.

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What Agreement do you think they are entering into? Their decision is just for their state, and is not binding on any other state, just as no other state has any binding agreements on them.

It is EVEN called an interstate Compact, it is IN FACT an agreement between the several States to conspire and violate the rule of law and the sanctity of the votes cast by the residents of that and the several States involved in this ILLEGAL agreement.

Call it what you want, each state can independently pass their own law and achieve the same thing. The "compact" is not necessary.

The thing is unConstitutional on multiple levels.

Is the state allowed to determine how their electoral votes are distributed, or not?

They are NOT allowed to ignore the votes of the people of the State. Nor are they allowed to create a system by which several States agree to do something that effects elections,

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

Can't change the Constitution without amending it. The law in Colorado is illegal. But then demoncraps care less about the law.

Please list the part of the Constitution this violates.

All ready been done it is illegal for States to create compacts among themselves for the purpose of political power. Further a State can not legally ignore the votes if its citizens.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

Really? Explain how a state can make changes to how that state's Electoral College votes are determined and not violate the Constitution. I'm all ears!

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.Article II, Section 1, Clause 2

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

Really? Explain how a state can make changes to how that state's Electoral College votes are determined and not violate the Constitution. I'm all ears!

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.Article II, Section 1, Clause 2

Correct, the state shall appoint the electors, but it doesnt say that the state is allowed to say how the electoral votes are cast, that is for the states general election.

What colorado, and other states are trying to do is bypass the electoral college and force the electors of those states to vote against the voters wishes. It's essentially the legislature saying "we are going to delegate our electoral votes, not the citizens", basically removing the elector process.

When someone votes, they are not voting for a president, they are actually voting on a slate of electors which are chosen by the parties they represent. What these compact states are doing is removing the legally voted slate of electors, and placing their own in its place, or at least forcing them to vote against their wishes which really equates to election fraud when you think about it, because they are trying to alter the wishes of the people, and thus alter the election results. This is no different than someone stealing a ballot box and changing all the votes.

For all states entering this compact, they have completely sidestepped the whole reason for the electoral college, and run the risk of negating their electors. For these states, their electoral vote count should be reduced to zero.

 

[OKTexas]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

Yeah, it's hard to find fraud when no one is making a concerted effort to find it. You commies have blocked every effort to do so.

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The right has been throwing everything they have at trying to find some hint of widespread in person voter fraud. No luck yet. What happened to Trump's investigation into voter fraud? Should we see those results at the same time we see his results from the birth certificate investigation?

If every State in the Union decided to wipe their voter rolls clean and require registration with proof of citizenship, how many cases do you think would be filed in courts across the country? That's the only way I can see to insure election integrity. You won't convince anyone there's not a problem with non-citizens voting with anything short of that. My guess is voter rolls would shrink by 30-40% should that happen.

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[idb]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

I don't think you're right.
He set up a commission to look into it and "they can't believe what they're finding".
I for one am looking forward to what they're finding.



Trump orders voter fraud commission after lodging charges over the 2016 election that he won

 

[OKTexas]

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

Are you saying WI had laws that only applied to minorities? I'd like to see proof of that, you got a link?

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Black Folks don't got no proper I. D.

Oh, the bigotry of low expectations. Got it.

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[lennypartiv]

I'm not surprised at all to find out Democrats are rigging the 2020 election.