Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone

[pismoe]

I have had the "pleasure" of taking away guns from a mentally ill relative, hiding them (in the hedges on the property and not in my car, since he could fight me for the keys) and warning the police, all to prevent a suicide by cop. I have some experience with guns in the hands of people who should never have had them.

If people insist on carrying guns in public, while not being members of law enforcement or the legitimate National Guard of their state, would it not be fair to require such people to wear some sort of badge or other openly-displayed symbol so that members of the public could choose whether to interact with them or not?

I don't want to go to some restaurant, club, store, theater, park, or other places open to general society, only to find out when it is too late, that I was next to some stranger with a loaded firearm and I was not warned. If someone like that is in the same aisle as me in a supermarket, I just might move to another aisle. If in a restaurant, I might ask to be seated elsewhere.

Hey, that's a great idea! Maybe you could make the symbol a six-pointed star.

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What does this have to with a person's religion? What does this have to with being of the Jewish faith? I am not Jewish. But I think that people of all religions would want to keep themselves and their families safe. Why can't all people, of every faith, know who is carrying a loaded gun?

------------------------------ NONE of their business Lysis .

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You said absolutely nothing. Try again.

 

[Flash]

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You say that we must take the 2nd literally. .

Pretty much so.

The least we should do is apply the same strict scrutiny criteria to the right to keep and bear arms as we do to other rights protected under the Bill of Rights. The courts don't do that now and that is despicable.

The last thing we need is to have hateful delusional and not that bright Liberals deciding how to apply the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. We see over and over again that they never get it right and erode our individual liberties.

By the way, don't give me this horseshit about you Liberals caring about the welfare of children when you support the murdering of a million of them each year for the sake of convenience. In addition to that you want to destroy the liberty and economic well being of our children with destructive and failed Left policies.

If you want the 2nd to be taken literally, then I suggest you modernize it legally instead of just causing trouble. I am not in favor of doing away with it's meaning but I am in favor of rewriting to a more modern legal wording.

You are still trying to make this an "Us against Them" game. US is everyone.

-------------------------------------- it is WE and my People against against YOU .

Now you are talking for We the People. Well, cupcake, We the People in this state adopted common sense gun regs. If you are speaking for We the People then you would be taking a different stance. To you, the fringe, small vocal group you identify with is the only ones that should be heard and you should control all others. Newsflash, cupcake, you aren't speaking for We the People.

This post alone proves you don't understand the United States.

You support the majority taking rights away from the minority.

Historically, that hasn't worked out well for anybody.

Usually it is not even a majority. Just a plurality of assholes.

Our Founding Fathers would turn over in their graves if they thought the US was going to turn into a shithole of a country where the majority can vote away Liberties.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Please don't excuse Rustic, he's a damn liar who should never be trusted.

 

[Lysistrata]

Someone dragged religion into this discussion.It is not about religious faith.

It is about the rights of all of us to move about American society without fear for ourselves and our families. Would I take my family to a restaurant to eat dinner when a person at the next table has a loaded weapon? I would like to know so that we could be moved to another table or leave the restaurant and find another place to eat. I did not talk about removing the gun form this person, just about getting away from him/her.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Someone dragged religion into this discussion.It is not about religious faith.

It is about the rights of all of us to move about American society without fear for ourselves and our families. Would I take my family to a restaurant to eat dinner when a person at the next table has a loaded weapon? I would like to know so that we could be moved to another table or leave the restaurant and find another place to eat. I did not talk about removing the gun form this person, just about getting away from him/her.

Your irrational paranoia is your own problem. Nobody else is under any obligation to give up any of their own rights in order to pander to it.

 

[pismoe]

just an observation on SOCIETY but as a kid growing up one of the main things i learned is to keep my business close to my vest because ' MY BUSINESS' is no one else's business and that was taught to me by smart Parents . ------- i guess that that smart way of thinking has been lost in the last 50 or more years . I blame that loss of understanding of 'PRIVATE Business' is to bad parenting and on emotional talk shows and similar popular entertainment on ' TV tell all shows' . Anyway , its NONE of your business who carries guns or who owns guns Lysis .

 

[daveman]

Someone dragged religion into this discussion.It is not about religious faith.

It is about the rights of all of us to move about American society without fear for ourselves and our families. Would I take my family to a restaurant to eat dinner when a person at the next table has a loaded weapon? I would like to know so that we could be moved to another table or leave the restaurant and find another place to eat. I did not talk about removing the gun form this person, just about getting away from him/her.

You idiot, I brought up a symbol intended by the totalitarian regime that forced it on people to identify those deemed "dangerous".

That's exactly what you want to do.

 

[bripat9643]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an eveil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Of course they are. That's what lefties mean by "common sense gun regulations." It's code for abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

YOU and the 14 others who make this claim are tellers of BIG LIES.

Anyone who isn't brain damaged knows those claims are facts. Lefties always give themselves away.

So we are ignoring facts. Well here is the last part of the 2nd amendment.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

At no time have I ever denied your right to wear sleaveless shirts.

Huh?

 

[daveman]

Common sense gun regulations are not about taking guns away from everyone
NRA and supporters say common sense gun regulations are the government attempting to take guns away from law abiding citizens.
Bull Shit - it is an eveil attempt to confuse logical arguments for gun control. Those who confuse the discussion with lies all have blood on their hands.

Of course they are. That's what lefties mean by "common sense gun regulations." It's code for abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

YOU and the 14 others who make this claim are tellers of BIG LIES.

Anyone who isn't brain damaged knows those claims are facts. Lefties always give themselves away.

So we are ignoring facts. Well here is the last part of the 2nd amendment.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

At no time have I ever denied your right to wear sleaveless shirts.

Huh?

He thinks "bear" and "bare" are synonymous.

 

[bripat9643]

Someone dragged religion into this discussion.It is not about religious faith.

It is about the rights of all of us to move about American society without fear for ourselves and our families.

You have no such right. The government has no control over what you're afraid of.

Would I take my family to a restaurant to eat dinner when a person at the next table has a loaded weapon? I would like to know so that we could be moved to another table or leave the restaurant and find another place to eat. I did not talk about removing the gun form this person, just about getting away from him/her.

No one is stopping you from going to another restaurant.

 

[pismoe]

Someone dragged religion into this discussion.It is not about religious faith.

It is about the rights of all of us to move about American society without fear for ourselves and our families.

You have no such right. The government has no control over what you're afraid of.

Would I take my family to a restaurant to eat dinner when a person at the next table has a loaded weapon? I would like to know so that we could be moved to another table or leave the restaurant and find another place to eat. I did not talk about removing the gun form this person, just about getting away from him/her.

No one is stopping you from going to another restaurant.

---------------------------- yep , she and no other American has a RIGHT to be without FEAR [chuckle] BRpat !!

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't want to go to some restaurant, club, store, theater, park, or other places open to general society, only to find out when it is too late, that I was next to some stranger with a loaded firearm and I was not warned. If someone like that is in the same aisle as me in a supermarket, I just might move to another aisle. If in a restaurant, I might ask to be seated elsewhere.

Durable solid digestive waste.

You don't get to deny other people their essential rights, just because you don't want to be around people exercising those rights.

Your complaint here has no more legitimacy than someone complaining that he doesn't want to to go to some restaurant, club, store, theater, park, or other places open to general society, only to find out when it is too late, that I was next to some stranger who happens to adhere to a religion or political ideology that you find disagreeable, or who has some ethnic ancestry that you don't like.

Nobody is under any obligation to give up any of their rights, just so that paranoid cretins such as yourself can feel comfortable in public.

All I asked for is people to be given fair warning as they go about in public. Should I not be warned when standing in line at a store that someone else in line is carrying a loaded gun?
Don't I have the right to exit danger and lead my loved ones out of a danger zone to keep them safe?

 

[progressive hunter]

I don't want to go to some restaurant, club, store, theater, park, or other places open to general society, only to find out when it is too late, that I was next to some stranger with a loaded firearm and I was not warned. If someone like that is in the same aisle as me in a supermarket, I just might move to another aisle. If in a restaurant, I might ask to be seated elsewhere.

Durable solid digestive waste.

You don't get to deny other people their essential rights, just because you don't want to be around people exercising those rights.

Your complaint here has no more legitimacy than someone complaining that he doesn't want to to go to some restaurant, club, store, theater, park, or other places open to general society, only to find out when it is too late, that I was next to some stranger who happens to adhere to a religion or political ideology that you find disagreeable, or who has some ethnic ancestry that you don't like.

Nobody is under any obligation to give up any of their rights, just so that paranoid cretins such as yourself can feel comfortable in public.

All I asked for is people to be given fair warning as they go about in public. Should I not be warned when standing in line at a store that someone else in line is carrying a loaded gun?
Don't I have the right to exit danger and lead my loved ones out of a danger zone to keep them safe?

have you always been this irrational or is it something new youre trying???

 

[BluesLegend]

Of course they are. That's what lefties mean by "common sense gun regulations." It's code for abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

The left claim gun controls laws are for criminals and crazy people not law abiding gun owners. Yet when we point out that criminals and crazy people don't obey existing gun control laws exposing their lies, liberals run away and hide.

 

[sealybobo]

Unfortunately casualties are a terrible byproduct of freedom and liberty.
Government regulation of freedom and liberty sucks...We have plenty now.
Why not prefer the imposition of a full police state in Democratic strongholds...Why not impose our will on the bad guys only?

We do. Blue states have different laws than red ones. People in red states don’t have to deal with the kinds of people we have to deal with if you know what I mean.

For example some red states allow conceal carry without a permit. Republicans in Michigan almost passed it but I’m sure they didn’t want blacks to be able to carry guns freely without having to first go through the class and jump through the hoops.

You know who hates guns? Cops.

Lol
You’re wrong, any self-respecting lawman Encourages law abiding firearm ownership...
Keep your fucking socialism to yourselves

they know, I posted the article from PoliceOne, where actual cops stated in a survey they support civilians having guns.

Yes having guns but not in the car

-------------------------- yeah , thats one law that the Criminals will OBEY eh ??

If they get caught they go to jail

 

[sealybobo]

But you want anyone to own them. No training, no classes, no background checks. No permits to carry. Carry them in schools and in bars.

You want idiots like me to have no regulations.

Freedom isn’t free! Lol

Just like a chainsaw? Or a forge?

Moron...

Hey everyone. I’m a hypocrite like al gore when he preached about going green. Sure he has 3 homes all burning electricity and he flies on private jets but that doesn’t mean he can’t be for us as a society going green.

Same for me. I said my new gun comes with an 8 round clip and they shouldn’t make clips that hold more rounds, but then the guy shows up and he had two normal clips and one that holds ten instead of 8.

That doesn’t mean I approve of them making ten round clips.

But, guess which clip this hypocrite put in the gun? Lol

Here we go

I you had a gun you would know that the correct term is magazine not clip.

I assume you're speaking of a handgun and it doesn't matter what size the magazine is So what if my 9 mm carry gun has a 15 round magazine who the fuck are you to tell me I should only have 8 rounds?

I tried to explain to the idiot that if it were a REAL gun fight I could just out distance him and take him out with a single shot .22

A .45 ACP is up close and personal.

So only 22s should be legal. Lol

 

[sealybobo]

But you want anyone to own them. No training, no classes, no background checks. No permits to carry. Carry them in schools and in bars.

You want idiots like me to have no regulations.

Freedom isn’t free! Lol

Just like a chainsaw? Or a forge?

Moron...

Hey everyone. I’m a hypocrite like al gore when he preached about going green. Sure he has 3 homes all burning electricity and he flies on private jets but that doesn’t mean he can’t be for us as a society going green.

Same for me. I said my new gun comes with an 8 round clip and they shouldn’t make clips that hold more rounds, but then the guy shows up and he had two normal clips and one that holds ten instead of 8.

That doesn’t mean I approve of them making ten round clips.

But, guess which clip this hypocrite put in the gun? Lol

Here we go

I you had a gun you would know that the correct term is magazine not clip.

I assume you're speaking of a handgun and it doesn't matter what size the magazine is So what if my 9 mm carry gun has a 15 round magazine who the fuck are you to tell me I should only have 8 rounds?

I’m the society you live in ****.

These are two of the 3 “clips” I just purchased.

 

[sealybobo]

Why would it be better to limit the ability to kill to eight people in lieu of nine people or twenty people? Some otherwise logical people seem to get fascinated by the number of people killed, versus the fact that people are killed.

Children are killed, all over this country, at school, on the way to school, or on the way home from school, every day, and few seem to notice. So, what is the magic number of dead people that causes so much concern? It is obviously not the deaths, it is the numbers of deaths that creates the concern.

There is no ultimate solve all solution. The goal is to lower the number of people a nut can kill because guns aren’t going away.

You’re talking about a completely different problem. Why people kill. I’m just trying to lower the number of people they can kill. I wish none of us could get a ten round clip because they don’t make them.

And my Ruger bushmaster only holds 4. And you have to do the thing each time to unload the spent cartridge and put another in the chamber. I couldn’t do the kind of damage the Vegas shooter did. Or the guys on the movie heat with their assault weapons. That was based on a real case. Those weapons shouldn’t be available.

Solve the crazy male problem first then I’ll consider letting anyone own and carry a gun.

So, you are content to suffer shootings, as long as the body count is low? How liberal of you.

What do you suggest we do to stop the shootings?

Lol
First of all shit happens, No amount of frivolous gun control laws will stop any shootings.
Most all of the violence in this country is in progressive controlled urban areas with extremely strict gun control laws…

And that violence is committed by people who are legally ineligible to own firearms

But these morons want to target law abiding people with laws that do nothing to stop the illegal trafficking and illegal acquisition of firearms

Bullshit. We should be regulating the manufacturing and sales of firearms better.

Like I said if in 100 years they only made 5 shot revolvers and rifles your grandkids won’t have hard ons for guns they’ve never seen because they were outlawed a century ago.

It would be great if clips were limited to 5 shots.

 

[sealybobo]

"Common sense" is understanding and adhering to the Bill of Rights.

People can do a lot more damage with a 20 clip than they can a ten.

Let’s just limit clips to ten and the most clips you can buy per gun is 6

Lets not. I have never done any damage with my 30 round "clips" so you can go fuck yourself.

I’ve never pushed the button on my nuke but my city doesn’t want me having it. Can I move to your city with my nuke?

And there it is the dumbest argument in the history of firearms.

Last time I looked around no good guys with high powered automatics were walking around patrolling my neighborhoods.

My god one person can take out so many people. And ther3 are so many nuts in America. That doesn’t scare you?

Funny in Greece they had soldiers in Athens with high power assault weapons. They were ready but we aren’t.

Maybe that’s what we need to do. More cops on patrol carrying their high powered weapons.

An armed cop at every school. Wait. That would cost the schools money they don’t have. Repcublicans wont pay.

Do republicans have any solutions or ideas? I say they don’t.