Common sense gun regulations--need to be passed now.

No I want leadership since I recognize that method, purpose and context are important.

Gandhi was a leader, Donald Trump is a salesman, one served a purpose greater than himself, the other just serves himself.

Gandhi was Hindu, and was assassinated by a Hindu, because they thought he wasn't doing what was best for Hindus.

Context is important ... :thup:

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Uh-huh the act of one psychopath doesn't really invalidate the fact that he represents an example of a leader and fortunately his assassination occurred after he had led them to the primary objective.
 
Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips. Worth debating about.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them. Insurance should be maintained on firearms.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids. I am all for a gun safe and locking up weapons to keep from children.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done. I would suggest the licensed dealer mediate the sale so the background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made. Define the mental health checks, It needs to be specific in order for the government to take away a right.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger. Don't agree
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo. No, absolutely not, there are people on the no fly list that should never been on there. I think Ted Kennedy was on a no fly list at on time.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today. I respectfully disagree.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe. More partisan BS which does nothing to further the discussion, just hampers any real change.

If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations. This silly statement takes you from sensible gun control to a using this as a political tool which is disgusting.

Started out as a good thread to promote discussion and ended in just a partisan rant to inject politics and division.
 
Uh-huh the act of one psychopath doesn't really invalidate the fact that he represents an example of a leader and fortunately his assassination occurred after he had led them to the primary objective.

Would you like to take moment to further expound on how the act of a psychopath shouldn't have an impact on context ... :dunno:
Possibly apply it to the primary objective of the thread.

Who is leading who ... :21:

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Here is what we do...Guns kill tens of thousands of people every year,,,so we ban semi-auto's with fines of 5 years in prison the first time and life the second. Time to treat these people the same way as we do with drug dealers.
Jailing people for life who exercise their Constitutional right ? Think about how that sounds.
 
Uh-huh the act of one psychopath doesn't really invalidate the fact that he represents an example of a leader and fortunately his assassination occurred after he had led them to the primary objective.

Would you like to take moment to further expound on how the act of a psychopath shouldn't have an impact on context ... :dunno:
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One would assume that the answer to that question is self evident for the case in point however, from time to time assumption is undone by overestimation. :dunno:

"We may summarize the main line of this complexly meandering tale as a list of ironies, invoking the technical definition of irony as a statement where, for humorous or sarcastic effect, the intended meaning of a word becomes directly opposite to the usual sense." -- Stephen Jay Gould
 
One would assume that the answer to that question is self evident for the case in point however, from time to time assumption is undone by overestimation. :dunno:

"We may summarize the main line of this complexly meandering tale as a list of ironies, invoking the technical definition of irony as a statement where, for humorous or sarcastic effect, the intended meaning of a word becomes directly opposite to the usual sense." -- Stephen Jay Gould

You assume a lot of things ... Unfortunate for you, assumption is not law nor legally binding.
And ... Quoting other people won't change that either ... :thup:

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There hasn't been 18 school shootings this year
??? Are you griping because the number is at least 19 rather than 18? Did you not notice that there were 17 school kids shot in FL the other day. A few weeks earlier two more kids were shot dead and 17 were wounded in a KY school.
No I'm not griping I pointing out a factual error. Why are you and others counting accidental discharges of firearms and suicides in that claim ?
What was accidental about the FL shooting that just happened? That was 17 shootings.
What was accidental/suicidal about the KY shooting? That was two shootings.
17+2 = 19. 19>18.
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.

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If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.
YES 18 mass killings in 2018 and the ah republicans are worried about a wall The Aussies had mass killings before 2000 They banned automatic, semi automatic and shotguns and haven't had ONE mass killing since
 
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
Gun-violence-chart.jpg


There are no single mothers in the other nations? No video games, no loud music, violence on TV? What is the big difference is that there is easy access to guns, guns that are designed only for killing people. Look at how many of the mass killings are done with those weapons. Time for action, the hell with prayers and sympathy.
 
There are no single mothers in the other nations? No video games, no loud music, violence on TV? What is the big difference is that there is easy access to guns, guns that are designed only for killing people. Look at how many of the mass killings are done with those weapons. Time for action, the hell with prayers and sympathy.

You have nothing to offer in anything we could possibly compromise on.
No leverage to negotiate with ... No legal standing for your position.

The only thing you could possibly have is a threat ... Go pound sand ... :thup:

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Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

1. Not for banning all semi-automatic weapons - Perhaps a restriction on magazine size and the sale of assault-style weapons .. PARTICULARLY to confirmed mentally unstable teenagers

4. Private sales are fine between relatives, friends and neighbors. Gotta stop the unlicensed clowns who move from gun show to gun show and sell their crap on sites like Armslist.com

Good with all the rest
 
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
Gun-violence-chart.jpg


There are no single mothers in the other nations? No video games, no loud music, violence on TV? What is the big difference is that there is easy access to guns, guns that are designed only for killing people. Look at how many of the mass killings are done with those weapons. Time for action, the hell with prayers and sympathy.


Crime has increased in European nation's also with single parent households...

It's not brain surgery to figure out a single parent can't be every where .





It is sure easier to do something about the root cause of violence in the media ( it was done with cigarettes) then it is to try to get rid of 600 million guns from guys and gals in no mood to give them up.
 
OK--so this year we have 18 school shootings, and it's not even March yet. Yesterday in Florida 15 young people with their entire lives in front of them, along with 2 school teachers trying to protect them were massacred. Then we have Las Vegas. Then a church in Texas were generations of family members were wiped out. We have a movie theatre in Aurora Colorado, then San Diego were a straw buyer purchased semi-automatics for a slaugther there, and Orlando, Florida another one. And Sandy Hook where 5 to 7 year olds were slaughtered.

People have called for better gun regulations in this country and it has continually fallen on deaf ears. Republicans are owned by the NRA and right wing gun extremists.

Here are my suggestions.
1. Ban semi-automatic weapons and 30 round gun clips.
2. People with existing semi-automatics & ammo be required to keep them in a locked secure gun case, and required to maintain an insurance liability policy on that weapon in order to keep them.
3. Parents of children & teenagers are required to keep all of their guns & ammo in locked secure gun safes, inaccessible at all times to their kids.
4. No private sales. If someone wants to sell their gun, it has to be dropped off at a licensed gun dealer for resale so a background check can be done.
5. Background checks including extended mental health checks before any purchase of a gun is made.
6. Straw buyers of guns, those who buy guns for others, be under the same prosecutable standards as those that pull the trigger.
7. Those that are on a no fly list, or FBI terrorist watch list not be able to purchase any guns or ammo.

If these simple regulations were in place--there would have never been a Las Vegas, a Sandy Hook, a Columbine massacre, a church in Texas, San Diego slaughter, Orlando, Florida massacre, a Virginia Tech etc. etc. etc., and 15 young kids and 2 teachers that were killed yesterday would be here today.

You won't convince Republicans to do any of this. They are OWNED by the NRA, and right wing gun extremists, and will fight (tooth & nail) on any new gun regulations. They are more interested in the donations they get from the NRA than keeping the public and our schools safe.

RogerR20120424_low.jpg


If you're tired of all the condolences & sympathies, then do something about it. Vote for Democrats in the midterm election cycle this coming November for common sense gun regulations.

Let's back up there, home boy.

So in the shooting in Florida, your plans worked. No one was shooting back. So what's the problem?
 
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....
Gun-violence-chart.jpg


There are no single mothers in the other nations? No video games, no loud music, violence on TV? What is the big difference is that there is easy access to guns, guns that are designed only for killing people. Look at how many of the mass killings are done with those weapons. Time for action, the hell with prayers and sympathy.


Crime has increased in European nation's also with single parent households...

It's not brain surgery to figure out a single parent can't be every where .





It is sure easier to do something about the root cause of violence in the media ( it was done with cigarettes) then it is to try to get rid of 600 million guns from guys and gals in no mood to give them up.





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Countries with strong gun control don’t have a mass shooting problem.
 
So nothing about the root cause?



Like single mothers, violence on television, movies, video games, in music.....

Other countries have those things and don’t have regular school shootings...

We did too until 20 or 30 years ago.

Of course you're not including the middle east where Muslims are murdering each other in droves. Or Europe where Muslims are murdering them in droves. I wonder what the common denominator is there? I real head scratcher ...
 
Stay tuned for Crisis Actors showing up on MSM Fake News as soon as possible. Just like they did with Sandy Hook. Gotta get that Anti-2nd Amendment propaganda out there. Gotta appease the Useful Idiots.
 

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