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It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
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It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
I paid for my solar system up front and will get tax-cuts - something that you righties describe as government letting me keep more of my money, so I can spend it into economy.
So given that, can you say at which point anyone but me is paying for my solar panels?
I'll go get the popcorn, this should be good
What the fuck does that have to do with mandatory solar panels?Meaning anything similar to the many with little money who pay the most, especially with the lives of their children, for the defense of the rich?[
It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
I think it's smart governing.
Solar panels pay for themselfs in cheaper electrical bills and if you roll up-front cost into mortgage you'll probably not be paying more than for the same house without solar.
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It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
I paid for my solar system up front and will get tax-cuts - something that you righties describe as government letting me keep more of my money, so I can spend it into economy.
So given that, can you say at which point anyone but me is paying for my solar panels?
I'll go get the popcorn, this should be good
[
It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
I paid for my solar system up front and will get tax-cuts - something that you righties describe as government letting me keep more of my money, so I can spend it into economy.
So given that, can you say at which point anyone but me is paying for my solar panels?
I'll go get the popcorn, this should be good
Unless solar panels are different, you will not be able to write that off in one year. For any major expense I incur on my rental properties (usually over $1,200) I have to write that off over 30 years. I really never see any of that savings, but it offsets my mortgage interest payments which of course get lower every year
No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
That is only about 750 kwh per month. Do you live in a one room shackmost honest solar brokers will tell you that the break even point is around 10 years for a new solar system and that most systems have a useful life of 15-18 years. the panels themselves are relatively maintenance free (unless you have a hail storm) but the electrical components are just like your AC, furnace, or stove, they break down, wear out, or require replacement parts.
Most honest brokers do a COST ANALYSIS of a specific house, with specific roof, in a specific state with specific weather, expected energy costs and tax incentives.
Break even point for me is just 2-3 years.
I don't believe that, but if you do, great. Lets see, $20,000 divided by 24 equals $833, so to break even in two years you need to save $833 per month on your electric bill. to do it in 3 years you need to save $555 per month.
you are kidding yourself.
It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
even if that's right, and its not. in order to break even in 2 years you would have to save $250 per month. It simply isn't possible with today's technology. Hopefully some day it will be and at that time there will be no need for government subsidies etc. because the free market and competition will set the price.
And I didn't say 2 years, I said 2-3 years. System produces annualy about 10000 KWh at ~21-22 cents per kWh in NYC over that period, so that is $2200 savings a year, so it will take ~2.7 years to make $6000 worth of electricity.
No problemhttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.mic.com/articles/amp/85015/one-eye-opening-chart-shows-what-the-war-on-drugs-is-doing-to-america&ved=2ahUKEwiF2oCDsfraAhWHzlkKHUUzAG4QFjABegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1vAt_0J8jQHprRSQtENEKX&cf=1Okay I went overboard. Pot is 27%, drugs 50.1 percent. I say Legalize It All and treat it like Portugal. Republicans block that and many other freedoms.
Even CommieFact disagrees with you:
The Justice Department estimated that 3.6 percent of state inmates in 2013 had drug possession as their most serious offense. That includes possession charges for all drugs, not just marijuana. To gauge the marijuana-only percentage, we have to go back to data that’s about a decade old.
The Justice Department periodically carries out surveys of inmates in state and federal correctional facilities, the last of which was from 2004. According to this study, only about three-tenths of 1 percent of state prison inmates were there because of marijuana possession alone, without a more serious charge.
Bernie Sanders says people are getting prison sentences for smoking marijuana
Well my stats are official to o. And it is the GOP keeping the drug war going...Okay I went overboard. Pot is 27%, drugs 50.1 percent. I say Legalize It All and treat it like Portugal. Republicans block that and many other freedoms.
Even CommieFact disagrees with you:
The Justice Department estimated that 3.6 percent of state inmates in 2013 had drug possession as their most serious offense. That includes possession charges for all drugs, not just marijuana. To gauge the marijuana-only percentage, we have to go back to data that’s about a decade old.
The Justice Department periodically carries out surveys of inmates in state and federal correctional facilities, the last of which was from 2004. According to this study, only about three-tenths of 1 percent of state prison inmates were there because of marijuana possession alone, without a more serious charge.
Bernie Sanders says people are getting prison sentences for smoking marijuana
So let's see your links! So far, all I have is your claim with no evidence. I provided evidence which includes links.
Nobody gets prison time for smoking pot. See how Socialists lie to you?
I think it's smart governing.
Solar panels pay for themselfs in cheaper electrical bills and if you roll up-front cost into mortgage you'll probably not be paying more than for the same house without solar.
Aka tax payers get the bill. And a 10 kwh a year system isn't shit.[
It’s not 20k, it’s 6k after all the incentives
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
I paid for my solar system up front and will get tax-cuts - something that you righties describe as government letting me keep more of my money, so I can spend it into economy.
So given that, can you say at which point anyone but me is paying for my solar panels?
I'll go get the popcorn, this should be good
If government didn't enforce those requirements, then the mortgage company would. It pretty much already does since the only thing preventing someone from violating the building code is the fact that a mortgage company won't approve a mortgage on a structure that doesn't pass the building code.No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
Learn These Code Requirements for Stairs
Commies require stairs in homes to have at least 7-3/4 inch risers, 10 inch steps, 36 inches wide. My god what's next, having GOVERNMENT inspectors check all the construction done on a house to make sure it meets code and is safe for humans?
Stalinesque. Why are people forced to do anything? It's commies I tell you.
Today simple possession of pot is about as petty as they get. Typical jail time is less than 180 days for 2 oz or less and in some places up to 6 oz. Short sentence such as this are rarely served in state or federal penitentiaries because it's too expense. Prisoners serving 30 to 180 days usually end up in either a city or county jail or a low security facility.The study covered state and federal penitentiaries. Most people convicted for simple possession of marijuana that are sentenced to jail time are not sent to state or federal penitentiary but rather country jails or other similar facilities.Okay I went overboard. Pot is 27%, drugs 50.1 percent. I say Legalize It All and treat it like Portugal. Republicans block that and many other freedoms.
Even CommieFact disagrees with you:
The Justice Department estimated that 3.6 percent of state inmates in 2013 had drug possession as their most serious offense. That includes possession charges for all drugs, not just marijuana. To gauge the marijuana-only percentage, we have to go back to data that’s about a decade old.
The Justice Department periodically carries out surveys of inmates in state and federal correctional facilities, the last of which was from 2004. According to this study, only about three-tenths of 1 percent of state prison inmates were there because of marijuana possession alone, without a more serious charge.
Bernie Sanders says people are getting prison sentences for smoking marijuana
County or city jails are temporary. Nobody is sentenced to either other than petty crimes.
I showed evidence of my claim, now you show yours.
Within the last few years, there have been so many states, now 27 that have legalized marijuana and many other states and cities refusing to prosecute arrests for less than several pounds the whole criminalization is issue has become a real farce.
Marijuana Possession Laws | Criminal Defense Attorney Shane Lewis | Federal, State, & Juvenile | Fort Worth & Tarrant County
We had a discussion awhile back, around the time of Cliven Bundy, about the unfairness of the guvt telling you that you could not use your land in a way that put more than Xnumber pollutants in downstream runoff. I thought having a discussion of why that is right and necessary was sort of ..... frightening. LOLNo more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
Learn These Code Requirements for Stairs
Commies require stairs in homes to have at least 7-3/4 inch risers, 10 inch steps, 36 inches wide. My god what's next, having GOVERNMENT inspectors check all the construction done on a house to make sure it meets code and is safe for humans?
Stalinesque. Why are people forced to do anything? It's commies I tell you.
You mean somebody else paying your bills for you?
Congratulations Moon Bat. You have paid your stupid Liberal Tax and put yourself on welfare all at the same time.
Haven't you shit your pants enough in one thread?
Haven't you proven you are a stupid Moon Bat enough in this thread?
"Incentives" ,"subsidizes" etc are another form of welfare. If an idiot says that solar panels are economical because somebody else is paying for it then they are lying, aren't they?
I paid for my solar system up front and will get tax-cuts - something that you righties describe as government letting me keep more of my money, so I can spend it into economy.
So given that, can you say at which point anyone but me is paying for my solar panels?
I'll go get the popcorn, this should be good
Unless solar panels are different, you will not be able to write that off in one year. For any major expense I incur on my rental properties (usually over $1,200) I have to write that off over 30 years. I really never see any of that savings, but it offsets my mortgage interest payments which of course get lower every year
I bet Kalifornia is so bat shit environmental wackos cray that they giver the write off in one year like that moron Obama did at the Federal level for high efficiency AC units. The same year he ran up $1.5 trillion in debt.
If government didn't enforce those requirements, then the mortgage company would. It pretty much already does since the only thing preventing someone from violating the building code is the fact that a mortgage company won't approve a mortgage on a structure that doesn't pass the building code.No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
Learn These Code Requirements for Stairs
Commies require stairs in homes to have at least 7-3/4 inch risers, 10 inch steps, 36 inches wide. My god what's next, having GOVERNMENT inspectors check all the construction done on a house to make sure it meets code and is safe for humans?
Stalinesque. Why are people forced to do anything? It's commies I tell you.
Most of the building code is just a set of rules that have been determined by the building industry to be good practice for home construction. It's only when politicians get invovled that the code diverges from those guidelines.
self regulation by the mortgage industry was a miraculous success.
No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
Learn These Code Requirements for Stairs
Commies require stairs in homes to have at least 7-3/4 inch risers, 10 inch steps, 36 inches wide. My god what's next, having GOVERNMENT inspectors check all the construction done on a house to make sure it meets code and is safe for humans?
Stalinesque. Why are people forced to do anything? It's commies I tell you.
