Toronado3800
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You never answered and notice it was a question.
I'm sorry for asking you a question your masters have not provided you an answer for?
If I would have known free thought would risk removal of your typing fingers by Rush or Ann or Vlad or Adolf or whoever I would not have asked.
Let me know if you ever can hust say how you would have conducted the war. I know having an opinion makes you open to criticism but here, thats ok.
Here......the answer for the second time, you dunce.
1. What could, should have happened?
When the (anticipated) event that Hitler would attack Stalin's Russia, as they did June 21st, 1941, America should have done nothing...no more than relaxing restrictions on exports to the Russians...but at the same time securing a quid pro quo for further assistance! Lend-Lease should not have been the automatic and unlimited buffet that it turned into!
"Finally, should the Soviet regime fall,...we should refuse to recognize a Communist government-in-exile, leaving the path clear for establishment for a non-Communist government in Russia after the war." These were the words of Loy Henderson, Soviet and Eastern European affairs expert and Foreign Service officer, as quoted by Martin Weil in "A pretty good club: The founding fathers of the U.S. Foreign Service," p. 106.
2. In a letter to FDR, dated January 29, 1943, William Bullitt (Franklin D. Roosevelt appointed Bullitt the first US ambassador to the Soviet Union, a post that he filled from 1933 to 1936.) warned Roosevelt about what would happen if he continued pursuing the policies of appeasement toward Stalinthat formed the foundation of the American war strategy. He pleaded with FDR not to 'permit our war to prevent Nazi domination of Europe to be turned into a war to establish Soviet domination of Europe.'
He predicted the Soviet annexation of half of Europe; George Kennan identified that letter as the earliest warning of what would be the result of FDR's policies.
"For the President Personal & Secret: Correspondence Between Franklin D. Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt," Orville H. Bullitt, p. 575-590
3. Hanson Baldwin, military critic of the New York Times, declares in his book, "Great Mistakes of the War:" 'There is no doubt whatsoever that it would have been to the interest of Britain, the United States, and the world to have allowed and indeed to have encouraged-the world's two great dictatorships to fight each other to a frazzle.'
Baldwin writes that the United States put itself "in the role-at times a disgraceful role-of fearful suppliant and propitiating ally, anxious at nearly any cost to keep Russia fighting. In retrospect, how stupid!"
BTW, stupid....FDR was just fine with Hitler's take-over in Europe.
At the Munich conference where Europe sold out Czechoslovakia, even though France had a treaty to go to war to preserve Czechoslovakia…..Chamberlain was about to appease Hitler….and FDR sent this message to Chamberlain:
"MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference"
MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference
I'm not showing off how much I know....
....just rubbing your face in how little you know.
This is like a word game lol.
Does you typing or pasting in: "1. What could, should have happened?
When the (anticipated) event that Hitler would attack Stalin's Russia, as they did June 21st, 1941, America should have done nothing...no more than relaxing restrictions on exports to the Russians...but at the same time securing a quid pro quo for further assistance! Lend-Lease should not have been the automatic and unlimited buffet that it turned into!
"Finally, should the Soviet regime fall,...we should refuse to recognize a Communist government-in-exile, leaving the path clear for establishment for a non-Communist government in Russia after the war." These were the words of Loy Henderson, Soviet and Eastern European affairs expert and Foreign Service officer, as quoted by Martin Weil in "A pretty good club: The founding fathers of the U.S. Foreign Service," p. 106."
mean you don't think we should have declared war on the Germans in 1941?
Please, answer in your words. Say it, be brave. You are an equal person. You are an adult. Say what you think, no more hiding under a veil.
Get lost until you can show the proper respect for education.
Who said anything about education? I asked you for your opinion.
FWIW, I'm not into group think either. Be it questioning the liberal institutions or the conservative think tanks, our jobs as adults is to read theories on global warming or about natural climate change and combine the conflicting science from educated people into opinions. Our trophy wife hunter in chief apparently does it during this fast 15 minute meetings where he tells ppl to make their case and then he decides.
Heck, in a way I asked if I understood what you typed. If you are embarrassed to clarify, I'll help you.
Here is an "embarrassing" opinion of mine that isn't politically correct. If I were President in 1866, 1876 or 1886, I'm not sure what the heck I could have done to help the Native Americans out. Finishing up the conquest of the continent was obviously the "right" strategic move but man, I'm not comfortable with the situation. Hopefully I could have talked some Natives into forming Salt Lake City II someplace like the Mormons did. Even that didn't go entirely well.
So yeah, sometimes ppl are going to say, "Great, you criticized this, that or them. Given your education and even a bit of hindsight, what would you have done?"
So, in 1941, you would or would not have declared war on Germany?
Everything I post is my opinion, dunce.
Posts are carefully constructed to support same, using the testimony of experts.
You, on the other hand, lie.
The effect is you are hiding behind someone else's quote so you don't have to say what you would or would have done. That way you have made no decision and can't be wrong.