Democrats Plan On Nation's School Buses Wasteful!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

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You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

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If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

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But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China is beating us. What happened to American Exceptionalism? This IS the technology of the future. You want the US to fall behind the rest of the industrialized world? Why?

Why waste money on yet to be proven technology? How is that falling behind?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China is beating us. What happened to American Exceptionalism? This IS the technology of the future. You want the US to fall behind the rest of the industrialized world? Why?

What is it with you guys calling old technology, new?

What's the angle??

 

[Seawytch]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China is beating us. What happened to American Exceptionalism? This IS the technology of the future. You want the US to fall behind the rest of the industrialized world? Why?

Why waste money on yet to be proven technology? How is that falling behind?

It is hardly unproven technology. Wake up and smell the 21st century, Rip Van Winkle.

Amazon orders 100,000 electric delivery trucks, doubling the fleet in Europe and North America

Your Amazon Prime account is helping upend the electric vehicle market.

qz.com

 

[Seawytch]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China has people who have never left the home they were born in! Why do they need vehicles? Oh, that's right! The CCP has to travel to spread their ideology.

That's your argument for letting China beat the pants off us?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China is beating us. What happened to American Exceptionalism? This IS the technology of the future. You want the US to fall behind the rest of the industrialized world? Why?

Why waste money on yet to be proven technology? How is that falling behind?

It is hardly unproven technology. Wake up and smell the 21st century, Rip Van Winkle.

Amazon orders 100,000 electric delivery trucks, doubling the fleet in Europe and North America

Your Amazon Prime account is helping upend the electric vehicle market.

qz.com

Big f ING deal like I never used electric motors before

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China has people who have never left the home they were born in! Why do they need vehicles? Oh, that's right! The CCP has to travel to spread their ideology.

That's your argument for letting China beat the pants off us?

Again who cares if they have more charging stations, how does it affect the USA?

 

[Seawytch]

China And The United States Are Battling For EV Dominance

/PRNewswire/ -- Electric vehicles were the story of the year throughout 2020, but a battle in the EV industry could bust the market wide open in 2021. While...

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I want the United States to win this "battle". Why wouldn't Trumplicans want that too?

 

[Wyatt earp]

China And The United States Are Battling For EV Dominance

/PRNewswire/ -- Electric vehicles were the story of the year throughout 2020, but a battle in the EV industry could bust the market wide open in 2021. While...

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I want the United States to win this "battle". Why wouldn't Trumplicans want that too?

What battle? No one likes electric cars anyways

 

[WinterBorn]

A few weeks ago, President Biden announced his support for a bill that would make all school buses electric in 10 years. This is another disconnect between green extremism and reality. Electric cars function poorly or not at all in cold weather. Electric cars have limited range and can take up to 12 hours to recharge. Plus, 80% of our electricity comes from natural gas, coal, and nuclear power.

Study Shows Electric Cars Become Practically Useless In Cold Weather​

Study Shows Electric Cars Become Practically Useless In Cold Weather

According to recent studies, cold temperatures significantly reduce the performance of electric cars, especially when it comes to battery life. One study by AAA suggested that cold temperatures can reduce the range of the batteries in most electric cars by over 40 percent. It was also noted that...

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A better action would be to convert all school buses to natural gas, which burns much more cleanly than gasoline. However, the green movement has become so extreme that it now opposes natural gas, even though we have greatly reduced our carbon emissions by using more natural gas over the last eight years. Sadly, Biden's energy plan would aim to cut our use of natural gas by around 30% in 10 years. In contrast, Obama's energy plan vastly increased our use of natural gas because it produces far fewer emissions than gasoline or coal.

School buses are an excellent example of a vehicles that should be electric.

With the size of the vehicle, it could easily have enough batteries for 200 or 300 miles or more. I doubt any single school bus route is bigger than that.

The cold weather effects the batteries. But then, it effects diesel engines too. The way they run diesels in cold weather is to plug them in to keep necessary parts and fluids warm. The same could be done with an electric school bus.

As for the time to recharge, they can be charged overnight. No problem.

 

[Seawytch]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China has people who have never left the home they were born in! Why do they need vehicles? Oh, that's right! The CCP has to travel to spread their ideology.

That's your argument for letting China beat the pants off us?

Again who cares if they have more charging stations, how does it affect the USA?

Makes us the losers. I want the US to win, come out ahead of the Chicoms. Show the world that WE are better, not them. It is a battle and we are losing.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China has people who have never left the home they were born in! Why do they need vehicles? Oh, that's right! The CCP has to travel to spread their ideology.

That's your argument for letting China beat the pants off us?

Again who cares if they have more charging stations, how does it affect the USA?

Makes us the losers. I want the US to win, come out ahead of the Chicoms. Show the world that WE are better, not them. It is a battle and we are losing.

If the Chinese decided that jumping off bridges would put them ahead, would you be the first one to follow suit here in the US?

 

[Wyatt earp]

A few weeks ago, President Biden announced his support for a bill that would make all school buses electric in 10 years. This is another disconnect between green extremism and reality. Electric cars function poorly or not at all in cold weather. Electric cars have limited range and can take up to 12 hours to recharge. Plus, 80% of our electricity comes from natural gas, coal, and nuclear power.

Study Shows Electric Cars Become Practically Useless In Cold Weather​

Study Shows Electric Cars Become Practically Useless In Cold Weather

According to recent studies, cold temperatures significantly reduce the performance of electric cars, especially when it comes to battery life. One study by AAA suggested that cold temperatures can reduce the range of the batteries in most electric cars by over 40 percent. It was also noted that...

anewspost.com

A better action would be to convert all school buses to natural gas, which burns much more cleanly than gasoline. However, the green movement has become so extreme that it now opposes natural gas, even though we have greatly reduced our carbon emissions by using more natural gas over the last eight years. Sadly, Biden's energy plan would aim to cut our use of natural gas by around 30% in 10 years. In contrast, Obama's energy plan vastly increased our use of natural gas because it produces far fewer emissions than gasoline or coal.

School buses are an excellent example of a vehicles that should be electric.

With the size of the vehicle, it could easily have enough batteries for 200 or 300 miles or more. I doubt any single school bus route is bigger than that.

The cold weather effects the batteries. But then, it effects diesel engines too. The way they run diesels in cold weather is to plug them in to keep necessary parts and fluids warm. The same could be done with an electric school bus.

As for the time to recharge, they can be charged overnight. No problem.

They have fast chargers for busses, it only takes less then 10 mins, use to ride the electric bus system in south Carolina

 

[MisterBeale]

A better action would be to convert all school buses to natural gas, which burns much more cleanly than gasoline. However, the green movement has become so extreme that it now opposes natural gas, even though we have greatly reduced our carbon emissions by using more natural gas over the last eight years.

You do not get it but do not let this trouble you, few get it.

The world is running out of fossil fuels, including natural gas. Fracking seems to be the last resort scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

You can do a little research on this topic and if you do the results will be the same. China gets it and China is moving on to a greener future. So are our European partners.

It is what it is

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Let's say this is true.

I have read all of the works on the world's number one expert on this, by M. King Hubbard, and his acolyte, Kenneth S. Deffeyes.

I for one? Am partially convinced on this.

Many of their calculations have not come to pass. I believe a lot of the reasons that their calculations have not come to pass is advanced technologies in hydrocarbon resource exploration, and the acceptance of Ukrainian/Russian Hydrocarbon petroleum geoscience.


However, with that said, even if we make the assumption that large geologically active planetary bodies produce hydrocarbons through their inner core processes, it is axiomatic that these processes are, necessarily limited in their regenerative capabilities.

Now. . . given the fact that the planet's economy is dependent on hydrocarbons for many products, from medical and pharmaceuticals, to other plastics that cannot be done with plant based plastics, for fertilizers, and a host of other products. . .

. . . . yes, a reduction in hydrocarbon based fuels almost seems like it is critically necessary at this point.

. . . . yet?

WHY LIE ABOUT THE TRUTH?!

Why even continue calling it by the misnomer, "fossil fuel?" Why continue mis-educating millions of folks and spreading the lie about "AGW?"

We will have a real and dire crises coming, but the global oligarchs are using it as a means to lock down the planet and exert more control for power and profit.


Disgusting.

 

[watchingfromafar]

We will have a real and dire crises coming, but the global oligarchs are using it as a means to lock down the planet and exert more control for power and profit.

You are right, a dire crisis is heading our way.

Having said that, now it is time to accept this and work on a viable solution.

MisterBeale, you pointed out the “dire crises” and then blamed it on “global oligarchs”. That is not a solution. The blame game gets you nowhere and if you think this gives you an out of jail free card, you are mistaken.

What we need are solutions.

MisterBeale, do you have any ideas that may point us in the right direction?

Anyone reading this topic, do you have any ideas that may point us in the right direction?

 

[rightwinger]

EVs suit DEMs perfectly.
You depend on an EV to get you around? Basically you will end up planning when and where and how fast you will travel.
NO deciding to take the scenic route back home. No freedom to decide you want to drop by your mistress's apartment for a quickie.
Driving an EV is like having a fucking extension cord plugged into your ass everywhere you go.

You will get almost 300 mile range. Not many drive more than that a day. When you get home, plug it in and you are good to go the next morning

300 million cars plugged in at night? What could go wrong...

Not much electric usage at night
Good time for charging

 

[rightwinger]

Well it not that school bus travel a great distance. Pick up the kids and drop them off.

They don't? I'll bet you would like putting the mileage on your cars that a school bus adds every day.

In my school district, the buses make runs sometimes 14 times per day, That's 2 high school runs, 2 elementary runs, 2 middle school runs, and 1 kindergarten run each morning and then again at night. Those that don't, pick up all grades and distribute them to the elementary, middle and high schools that are sometimes 10 miles apart. After school hours, they are used to transport kids for athletics and academic competitions. When exactly are they going to recharge?

They have rapid charging stations.

How to Charge an Electric Car | Electrify America

Learn how to charge your electric car in a few easy steps with Electrify America. Simply choose your power level, plug in your connector & start charging.

www.electrifyamerica.com

You can also do battery swaps. You have no faith in American ingenuity?

Lol, a friend of mines brother has one of those expensive electric cars. You have to plan your entire trip around charging stations. Also we don't have enough available electricity to power the cars in question, and Biden wants us to go totally green in 10 years. Lol, you guys are idiots.

Who says we don't have the electricity?

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

But we ARE way behind in EV infrastructure. Did you know that in one month China installed more EV charging stations than we have in the entire US? Why do you want China to beat us at this race?

How does it effect us how many charging stations china has?

China has people who have never left the home they were born in! Why do they need vehicles? Oh, that's right! The CCP has to travel to spread their ideology.

China has an emerging middle class. They have money to spend and want cars....just like Americans did

 

[rightwinger]

Let's do one even better. Return to neighborhood schools just like we did before the 1970s and forced busing.

I walked to school back in the day.

So did I, all five miles. Both ways it was uphill, in the snow from August until June in Florida, carrying my younger brother who had no legs.

Sorry to hear about your brother. It was nice of you to carry him

 

[watchingfromafar]

I have an idea concerning electric cars.

I envision you drive up to your filling station, much like a gas station today. There are alignment tracks that you drive along and then the red-light pops on saying “STOP”. Much like a car wash. You put on your parking brake, a machine reaches up under your car and removes a large, discharged battery and a charged one is put in to replace the discharged one. Within ten (10) minutes or less you have exchanged your discharged battery with a charged one. Now off you go with a 300-mile charged battery.
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[rightwinger]

I have an idea concerning electric cars.

I envision you drive up to your filling station, much like a gas station today. There are alignment tracks that you drive along and then the red-light pops on saying “STOP”. Much like a car wash. You put on your parking brake, a machine reaches up under your car and removes a large, discharged battery and a charged one is put in to replace the discharged one. Within ten (10) minutes or less you have exchanged your discharged battery with a charged one. Now off you go with a 300-mile charged battery.
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Good idea where you don’t own your battery but just swap it for a full one. Save you the eventual expense of eventually buying a new one

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have an idea concerning electric cars.

I envision you drive up to your filling station, much like a gas station today. There are alignment tracks that you drive along and then the red-light pops on saying “STOP”. Much like a car wash. You put on your parking brake, a machine reaches up under your car and removes a large, discharged battery and a charged one is put in to replace the discharged one. Within ten (10) minutes or less you have exchanged your discharged battery with a charged one. Now off you go with a 300-mile charged battery.
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Good idea where you don’t own your battery but just swap it for a full one. Save you the eventual expense of eventually buying a new one

What do you mean good idea? Manufacturing has been doing it for over 40 years with forklift batteries