DemoRATS have now declared political civil war....

[bodecea]

Ahemmm, the Democrats do have the majority in the house, chosen by we the people... and not an electoral college, so OF COURSE they would be the ones to write the rules of this process for the House.

The process is very fair... stop whining about process and find a way to DEFEND Trump, for his alleged wrong doings, IF YOU CAN....

Remember when righties were so distressed over some Democrats' calls to scold cabinet officials responsible for brutalizing kids at the border? How they predicted rivers of blood subsequent to such irresponsible behavior?

Now they are routinely declaring war, in ever more strident verbiage. Oh yes, of course, they are clothing their declaration of war in allegations that the other side declared it first. And they think piling lies on their recklessness is making things better.

Very similar pattern to the last time con-servatives started a civil war....after they got their asses kicked, they started a false legend that it was the North that was the aggressor.

 

[bodecea]

Total political war has been joined. On the floor of the United Sates House of Representatives on Thursday, the battle lines were drawn — and they could not be more clear or decisive. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said: “Every member should support allowing the American people to hear the facts for themselves. That is really what this vote is about. It is about the truth, and what is at stake in all of this is nothing less than our democracy.”

Stirring stuff, but not to be outdone, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan fired back, calling into question the origins of the Ukraine investigation that began with a whistleblower’s meeting with Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s staff.

Chiding the chairman, Jordan said, “One member of this body knows who this person is who started this whole darn, crazy process: Chairman Schiff. And what’s this resolution do? Gives him even more power to run this secret proceeding in a bunker in the basement of the Capitol.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

Reading through the resolution sounds exactly like a manifest from Soviet Russia....Schitt for brains has been given the power to approve witnesses, limit their testimony, and may or may NOT allow the president to have legal council in attendance for ALL proceedings...if the Republicans did this the ABNORMALS of the left and their slavish co conspirators in the MSM would go nuts!!!!!

What is this, the 2000th thread from a blob supporter insisting that civil war has been declared, is coming, or is going on right now? You guys need a new hobby.

Notice it's all talk?

 

[bodecea]

That's it, show Americans just how stupid the party of stupid can get. We will watch as Republicans blow up their careers in metaphorical suicide attacks on our constitution.

to analogize in a pix>>>

~S~

The real shame here is that in ten years we will not be able to find anyone who will admit ever supporting this disaster of a president.

Oh...we've got these posts.

 

[bodecea]

Ahemmm, the Democrats do have the majority in the house, chosen by we the people... and not an electoral college, so OF COURSE they would be the ones to write the rules of this process for the House.

The process is very fair... stop whining about process and find a way to DEFEND Trump, for his alleged wrong doings, IF YOU CAN....

Guess what's going to happen when you LOSE the house next year?

You assholes took our gloves off for us. Don't cry when your political whores start going to prison. The rules that we had in place were changed by you commies, now we can use them against you.

Nah... We already know you're going to riot.


.

Oh so then you will have your revenge on America for daring to oppose the King? Don't worry, democrats will save you from your self destructive authoritarian impulses.

Yeah......you call him a King and a tyrant...yet who spied on the press and on his political opponents?
Barack H. Obama.
Who has locked up his critics?
Barack H. Obama.

Right now the only people in Washington that thinks they're kings is Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.

Thus speaketh a Birther......

 

[Olde Europe]

Very similar pattern to the last time con-servatives started a civil war....after they got their asses kicked, they started a false legend that it was the North that was the aggressor.

There is no more potent a weapon in the political realm than the almighty victim card. And there's no lie too shameful, and no distortion too grotesque, to employ in order to get one.

 

[rightwinger]

It is the central issue here. If any sort of investigation/impeachment of the president is illegitimate just because it is mostly partisan then we have lost the ability as a nation to hold the president accountable for his actions. Partisanship is not going away any time soon. We cannot allow this to become the new normal where the president feels safe to be as corrupt as they want.

Sounds nice, but it's total hogwash in this case. What you're saying is that it's okay to make anything a Republican president does become against the law just because you lost the election.
The problem with going down this slippery-slope is it will make anything any president does become grounds for impeachment...if it doesn't go along with the desires of the majority in the House. That's essentially a breach of the separation of powers and institutes mob rule.....which is not a Democracy.

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Actually, the House impeaches
The Senate conducts a trial

 

[Faun]

It is the central issue here. If any sort of investigation/impeachment of the president is illegitimate just because it is mostly partisan then we have lost the ability as a nation to hold the president accountable for his actions. Partisanship is not going away any time soon. We cannot allow this to become the new normal where the president feels safe to be as corrupt as they want.

Sounds nice, but it's total hogwash in this case. What you're saying is that it's okay to make anything a Republican president does become against the law just because you lost the election.
The problem with going down this slippery-slope is it will make anything any president does become grounds for impeachment...if it doesn't go along with the desires of the majority in the House. That's essentially a breach of the separation of powers and institutes mob rule.....which is not a Democracy.

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

The House impeaches, not the Senate.

And an acquittal in the Senate won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

 

[Billiejeens]

Sounds nice, but it's total hogwash in this case. What you're saying is that it's okay to make anything a Republican president does become against the law just because you lost the election.
The problem with going down this slippery-slope is it will make anything any president does become grounds for impeachment...if it doesn't go along with the desires of the majority in the House. That's essentially a breach of the separation of powers and institutes mob rule.....which is not a Democracy.

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

 

[Faun]

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

 

[peach174]

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

The vast majority of America has seen what's really going on and have stopped believing the main stream news media.
Everyone's sick of hearing left wing political talking points rather than the news.
It used to be news got to the bottom of wrong doing in politics no matter what party.
Now it's parroting rather than reporting.

 

[Billiejeens]

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

I laugh
It's like a grand jury
Only the prosecution has leaked charges
The defense has done nothing yet
This is the highest point that you will achieve

Once the FISA abuse is in the actual public domain
Once Durham puts his report into the public domain
Once the foreign influence is in the public domain
You guys will be lucky to have 10%

 

[peach174]

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

I laugh
It's like a grand jury
Only the prosecution has leaked charges
The defense has done nothing yet
This is the highest point that you will achieve

Once the FISA abuse is in the actual public domain
Once Durham puts his report into the public domain
Once the foreign influence is in the public domain
You guys will be lucky to have 10%

Especially when only 2 Dems upheld the Constitution.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you support Trump's assertion that the president can do what he wants then you have lost the moral authority to criticize any president ever.

That's not what is at issue here.
This impeachment is a political hatchet job created in the House by Democrats using fake evidence and perjured testimony by Obama Administration spies.
It's simply a continuation of the Russian Collusion hoax. They simply changed the country involved.

It is the central issue here. If any sort of investigation/impeachment of the president is illegitimate just because it is mostly partisan then we have lost the ability as a nation to hold the president accountable for his actions. Partisanship is not going away any time soon. We cannot allow this to become the new normal where the president feels safe to be as corrupt as they want.

Sounds nice, but it's total hogwash in this case. What you're saying is that it's okay to make anything a Republican president does become against the law just because you lost the election.
The problem with going down this slippery-slope is it will make anything any president does become grounds for impeachment...if it doesn't go along with the desires of the majority in the House. That's essentially a breach of the separation of powers and institutes mob rule.....which is not a Democracy.

We elected the democrats in the house specifically to hold the president accountable for his actions. It's not like Trump's own people didn't warn him he was on dangerous ground with the Ukraine affair but he did it anyway. Blame him for being stupid and lacking in foresight.

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

It is the best they got. That's why Hillary is hinting on getting back in. She was the bottom of the barrel last time, and the best they can do this time.

 

[Billiejeens]

If this phone call is your best shot at undoing the 2016 election, then you are fucked.

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

Do you have rebuttal other than a smiley face?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That vote yesterday gave Trump a landslide victory in 2020. The Democrats, because they are afflicted with TDS, are simply to stupid to understand what they did wrong by going after impeachment on a strict partian vote.

Dumb mutherfuckers. Of course these are the same clowns that nominated Crooked Hillary in 2016 and are running Socialists in 2020 so you know they aren't exactly playing with a full deck.

What they did yesterday was a dog and pony show. Most in the country weren't even paying attention. They will go a little, check the polls, maybe go a little more, check the polls. However when (if) they finally impeach Trump, that's when the Schiff will hit the fan. That will be when they turn the election over to the Republicans. Because then people will start paying attention and reading up on what phony charges they proceeded on. People will be generally pissed.

 

[Faun]

Nothing will be undone

Pence will become President

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

Do you have rebuttal other than a smiley face?

LOL

Laughing at your drivel wasn't enough?

 

[peach174]

Total political war has been joined. On the floor of the United Sates House of Representatives on Thursday, the battle lines were drawn — and they could not be more clear or decisive. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said: “Every member should support allowing the American people to hear the facts for themselves. That is really what this vote is about. It is about the truth, and what is at stake in all of this is nothing less than our democracy.”

Stirring stuff, but not to be outdone, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan fired back, calling into question the origins of the Ukraine investigation that began with a whistleblower’s meeting with Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s staff.

Chiding the chairman, Jordan said, “One member of this body knows who this person is who started this whole darn, crazy process: Chairman Schiff. And what’s this resolution do? Gives him even more power to run this secret proceeding in a bunker in the basement of the Capitol.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

Reading through the resolution sounds exactly like a manifest from Soviet Russia....Schitt for brains has been given the power to approve witnesses, limit their testimony, and may or may NOT allow the president to have legal council in attendance for ALL proceedings...if the Republicans did this the ABNORMALS of the left and their slavish co conspirators in the MSM would go nuts!!!!!

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said: “Every member should support allowing the American people to hear the facts for themselves."

You don't support that, Zippy?

Cherry picked facts.
No one should support.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Gimme dirt on Biden, or no aid.

The very definition of corruption.

1) that was never said or even hinted.
2) Ukraine got the aid.
3) Trump has no dirt on Biden from the Ukraine.
4) Durham opened up a criminal investigation that will support Trump in the end.

 

[Billiejeens]

The Senate does the impeaching.
That is not going to happen.

Keep dreaming.

Which won't bode well for the 23 Republican seats up for grabs next year if the public largely believes he should have been convicted.

They already don't
Overwhelmingly.

I've seen polls ranging from high 40's to high 50's. And the public hearings are just getting started.

At this point in Nixon's impeachment proceedings, not a single Republican voted to proceed either and public support was lower.

Do you have rebuttal other than a smiley face?

LOL

Laughing at your drivel wasn't enough?

If that's all you have

 

[peach174]

They are looking into that corrupt Oil and Gas company.
It does not make Hunter Biden automatically guilty of anything just because he worked for them.
It looks fishy but there could be a lot of factors in that.
I unlike some of the left ,look for solid evidence first.

He seems to be more in trouble over China than Ukraine.