Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

[Nostra]

This has nothing to do with psychology and everything to do with making gun ownership so expensive and time consuming that common citizens can't afford it.

Why would that be a bad thing?

You see, funny thing, when the Second Amendment was passed, guns were so expensive most people couldn't afford them. Gun ownership was a privilege of the rich.

Then Colt started mass producing them, and we've had criminals with guns ever since.

Funny thing, what they are kind of proposing here is what Germany already has. Germany has gun ownership, about 20 million guns for 80 million people. But it isn't considered a "Right", it's a privilege that has to be earned.

Germany has very little gun crime and few gun murders.

Gun ownership was a privilege of the rich.

Link to your data?

Watch this massive dodge by the moron JoeB131

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

Should we have the same evaluation before someone can speak his/her opinion....and if he/she fails they can't speak their opinion?

This is a yes or no question.

Poll tests?

They will find any excuse to fuck us out of our individual rights. That's why we must exterminate.

 

[bripat9643]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

Yeah, but Der Fuhrer Biden swore they weren't going to take our guns.

 

[Nostra]

Bollocks ... every household had a firearm for hunting and self-defense in Revolutionary War times.

The Minutemen were not in the 1%.

The "minuteman" is largely a myth.

The Revolutionary army was small, and they had to ask France for guns.

Um, that was before our Constitution, Stupid.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This has nothing to do with psychology and everything to do with making gun ownership so expensive and time consuming that common citizens can't afford it.

Why would that be a bad thing?

You see, funny thing, when the Second Amendment was passed, guns were so expensive most people couldn't afford them. Gun ownership was a privilege of the rich.

Then Colt started mass producing them, and we've had criminals with guns ever since.

Funny thing, what they are kind of proposing here is what Germany already has. Germany has gun ownership, about 20 million guns for 80 million people. But it isn't considered a "Right", it's a privilege that has to be earned.

Germany has very little gun crime and few gun murders.

Bullshit. Prove it.

 

[Nostra]

The top priority is to get the illegal guns out of the hands of the bad guys. Democrats keep focusing or leaning on the good guys with guns. Maybe we should start these psychological tests of illegal gun owners and their family members in South Chicago or West Baltimore.

Or maybe we can get the gun industry to stop dumping guns into these neighborhoods.

Case in point. Until 2010, Chicago had a pretty strict gun law. Then the National Rampage Association got rid of Chicago's gun law and forced Illinois to allow conceal carry. Well, lo and behold gun shops popped up on every corner in Chicago.

As a result, homicides in Chicago went from 460 in 2010 to 784 in 2016.

Or maybe we can get the gun industry to stop dumping guns into these neighborhoods.

Link to your data?

Pretty sure the "gun industry" only sells guns, they don't just "dump them in neighborhoods".

 

[bripat9643]

This has nothing to do with psychology and everything to do with making gun ownership so expensive and time consuming that common citizens can't afford it.

Why would that be a bad thing?

You see, funny thing, when the Second Amendment was passed, guns were so expensive most people couldn't afford them. Gun ownership was a privilege of the rich.

Then Colt started mass producing them, and we've had criminals with guns ever since.

Funny thing, what they are kind of proposing here is what Germany already has. Germany has gun ownership, about 20 million guns for 80 million people. But it isn't considered a "Right", it's a privilege that has to be earned.

Germany has very little gun crime and few gun murders.

Countries with low rates of gun crime are all predominately white. So using your methodology, the solution is to evict everyone from the country who isn't white.

 

[Nostra]

Funny the 1st amendment was passed when the best means of communication was letters and horse. Using your example the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to any form of mass communication, radio, tv, the internet and so on. Your argument is dumb as shit.
As far as the old world empires they never had the right to own firearms however the US has always had the right. Your argument is dumb as shit.

Actually, all of those industries are either regulated or self-regulate. TV and Radio are controlled by the FCC. Movies are governed by the MPAA (and before that the Hayes Code). The internet is still the wild west, but it won't be for much longer.

The problem with the argument of Second Amendment Advocates is that we need a gun for one of two reasons.

To kill people who want to hurt us.

To overthrow the government when we don't like it anymore.

Okay, the problem with the first one is that it almost never happens. DGU's are rare, and a gun in the home if 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

The other one is even sillier, because the government has tanks and bombers and artillery and warships, and clearly, the Second Amendment didn't give the people to keep and bear those. (In colonial times, there were privately owned warships and cannons, but the government put a stop to that nonsense.)

But even if you could, what would that look like? It would be Jan. 6 every day... Hard pass for most sane people.

The problem with the argument of Second Amendment Advocates is that we need a gun for one of two reasons.

The problem with the argument of you Anti-Constitution morons is that the Constitution doesn't specify the need for any 'reason' to own a firearm.

You lose again, Stupid.

 

[Nostra]

Shall not be infringed


Fck off demoquacks

Well Regulated Militia...

Fuck off, Fat Irish Sow.

the right of the people...

Fuck off, ass clown.

Pooe JoeB131 He is taking a major beating in this thread.

 

[The Banker]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

We definitely need psych evals for all gun owners.

Wackos like the guy in horns that stormed the capitol or Marjorie Greene are too crazy to have guns. They are not responsible enough to own guns.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Shall not be infringed


Fck off demoquacks

Well Regulated Militia...

Fuck off, Fat Irish Sow.

Yes but ever subsequent mentioning of the 2nd Amendment by those who authored it and signed it verified the right of the individual to own firearms.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

We definitely need psych evals for all gun owners.

Wackos like the guy in horns that stormed the capitol or Marjorie Greene are too crazy to have guns. They are not responsible enough to own guns.

We need poll tests for voters.

 

[CowboyTed]

This has nothing to do with psychology and everything to do with making gun ownership so expensive and time consuming that common citizens can't afford it.

Why would that be a bad thing?

You see, funny thing, when the Second Amendment was passed, guns were so expensive most people couldn't afford them. Gun ownership was a privilege of the rich.

Then Colt started mass producing them, and we've had criminals with guns ever since.

Funny thing, what they are kind of proposing here is what Germany already has. Germany has gun ownership, about 20 million guns for 80 million people. But it isn't considered a "Right", it's a privilege that has to be earned.

Germany has very little gun crime and few gun murders.

Just as a fact...

In a whole year German police shot 85 bullets in total for the whole country. 49 were warning shots only 15 were at suspects.

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011

According to Germany's Der Spiegel, German police shot only 85 bullets in all of 2011, a stark reminder that not every country is as gun-crazy as the U.S. of A.

www.theatlantic.com

"Meanwhile, in the U.S., where the population is little less than four times the size of Germany's, well, we can get to 85 in just one sitting, thank you very much. 84 shots fired at one murder suspect in Harlem, another 90 shot at one fleeing unarmed man in Los Angeles."

Don't blame the cops, there is a lot of crazies running around with guns...

 

[CowboyTed]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

It's already illegal for the mentally ill to posses firearms. Try enforcing existing laws before enacting new ones.

They tried that... ATF can't use computers and have to hold everything on paper by law, a law GOP enacted....

Very hard to enforce laws when these things exist...

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Funny the 1st amendment was passed when the best means of communication was letters and horse. Using your example the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to any form of mass communication, radio, tv, the internet and so on. Your argument is dumb as shit.
As far as the old world empires they never had the right to own firearms however the US has always had the right. Your argument is dumb as shit.

Actually, all of those industries are either regulated or self-regulate. TV and Radio are controlled by the FCC. Movies are governed by the MPAA (and before that the Hayes Code). The internet is still the wild west, but it won't be for much longer.

The problem with the argument of Second Amendment Advocates is that we need a gun for one of two reasons.

To kill people who want to hurt us.

To overthrow the government when we don't like it anymore.

Okay, the problem with the first one is that it almost never happens. DGU's are rare, and a gun in the home if 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

The other one is even sillier, because the government has tanks and bombers and artillery and warships, and clearly, the Second Amendment didn't give the people to keep and bear those. (In colonial times, there were privately owned warships and cannons, but the government put a stop to that nonsense.)

But even if you could, what would that look like? It would be Jan. 6 every day... Hard pass for most sane people.

I'm surprised you didn't throw the dumb ass "do you want people to own nukes" argument. The over whelming majority of citizens in this country can not afford to own and maintain tanks bombers or artillery so dumb ass argument averted.
The 2nd Amendment was written for the very purpose of protecting against a tyrannical government. The first thing a dictatorship or socialist government does is curtail speech and take away the citizens arms. You seem to be cheering that process on.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Dems push psychological evaluations for gun owners and 'family members'

Laws don't matter--------

Not anymore anyways.

Registering guns is the first step in the dems plans to force you to give up your guns.

Register what?

 

[tyroneweaver]

A massive Democratic gun-control plan that could be called the "head shrink job protection bill" would require weapon owners and their family members to undergo "psychological evaluations."
Gun owners also would have to pay the government $800 in "insurance" fees, and a long list of weapons simply would be banned.

Unconstitutional. Perhaps one day the Democrats will forward legislation that is, but it is not today.

It's amazing just how many people the Democrats have pissed off in just two weeks.

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

LOL, geeze joe. You would label every con on this forum as a nut job and so would psychologist hired by the *biden party

 

[tyroneweaver]

Factually the Supreme Court threw out those laws.

Only because the NRA spent billions lobbying against them.

And you got just enough knuckle draggers on the court to think 'Well-Regulated Militia" means THESE guys.

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whadda hopover, Making their problem my problem. LOL

 

[tyroneweaver]

If it passes the Senate, it will destroy the Dems in 2022.

Not really. Democrats need to stop living in fear of the National Rampage Association.

nobody is controlled more by billionaires than you are joe

 

[Ringtone]

Yes, the last thing we'd want is for crazy people to be denied access to guns.

Instead, we need to keep teaching our kids to do Active Shooter Drills and cower behind their desks.

Stop projecting you mental illnesses on others, Joe.