Dershowitz: Recommended substantial sentence for Cohen bad news for Mueller

1. Dershowitz says hush money is not a crime. It wasn't a crime for Edwards nor for Obama. The DOJ (Barr) can take that one off the table.
Dershowitz: Candidate Entitled To Pay Hush Money, Committed No Election Crime

2. You're assuming that some type of corroboration exists, and that it can't be put under attorney-client privilege. I recall when a judge spanked the prosecutors for violating atty/client.

3. Trump is a shoo-in for 2020, the dems have no one to put up. Besides, what "fraud" are you talking about? By 2020 the "bullshit investigation" will be long forgotten...

Dershowitz is not prosecuting this case and has no inside information.

Cohen has already pleaded guilty, is already convicted and is awaiting sentencing, dope.
It's already a done deal.

I find it hilarious that you believe you know better than the US Attorneys prosecuting the case.

I find it hilarious that you are so stupid you forget the name that matters here. John Edwards. Precedent shows that paying women is NOT a campaign law violation. Mueller swings and misses again. Amazing you think Dershowitz has no inside contacts. You want a stupid little monkey? Look in the mirror.

Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.
 
Just because proven liar Cohen plead guilty to something doesn't mean that Trump is guilty, does it? Trump has many ways around those bullshit campaign finance "violations". Remember, Trump does not subscribe to double-standard most GOP clowns allow. If Edwards, Obama, and other dems got around those bullshit campaign violations Trump will also. Cohen is damaged goods, whatever he composed to lighten his sentence is totally useless.

p.s. if Trump wins a 2nd term the statute of limitations makes those charges go away...
Another dopey fallacy.
Just because Cohen previously lied does not mean he is now. Just as with Manafort, his plea agreement is only as good as the information provided. That means it must be verifiable. So when the prosecutor files court documents saying Cohen named Trump as a co-conspirator, that has already been corroborated.


I doubt Trump would win in 2020 or even run.
There aren't enough die-hard morons who are willing to vote a second time for a guy who committed fraud in the first go around.

Don't forget, this is most certainly not the last thing we will learn about Trump and his people. It's only the latest.

1. Dershowitz says hush money is not a crime. It wasn't a crime for Edwards nor for Obama. The DOJ (Barr) can take that one off the table.
Dershowitz: Candidate Entitled To Pay Hush Money, Committed No Election Crime

2. You're assuming that some type of corroboration exists, and that it can't be put under attorney-client privilege. I recall when a judge spanked the prosecutors for violating atty/client.

3. Trump is a shoo-in for 2020, the dems have no one to put up. Besides, what "fraud" are you talking about? By 2020 the "bullshit investigation" will be long forgotten...

Dershowitz is not prosecuting this case and has no inside information.

Cohen has already pleaded guilty, is already convicted and is awaiting sentencing, dope.
It's already a done deal.

I find it hilarious that you believe you know better than the US Attorneys prosecuting the case.

I hope Cohen gets 50-years, that has zero to do with Trump.
Dershowitz knows the Law better than the "sovereign southern district of NY".
We'll see how this plays out won't we.
1. Will Trump be impeached? probably
2. Will Trump be removed? no
3. Will Trump be indicted? no
4. Will Trump be re-elected? probably

What US attorneys are prosecuting the case? Mueller? SouthNY?
Just because proven liar Cohen plead guilty to something doesn't mean that Trump is guilty, does it? Trump has many ways around those bullshit campaign finance "violations". Remember, Trump does not subscribe to double-standard most GOP clowns allow. If Edwards, Obama, and other dems got around those bullshit campaign violations Trump will also. Cohen is damaged goods, whatever he composed to lighten his sentence is totally useless.

p.s. if Trump wins a 2nd term the statute of limitations makes those charges go away...
Another dopey fallacy.
Just because Cohen previously lied does not mean he is now. Just as with Manafort, his plea agreement is only as good as the information provided. That means it must be verifiable. So when the prosecutor files court documents saying Cohen named Trump as a co-conspirator, that has already been corroborated.


I doubt Trump would win in 2020 or even run.
There aren't enough die-hard morons who are willing to vote a second time for a guy who committed fraud in the first go around.

Don't forget, this is most certainly not the last thing we will learn about Trump and his people. It's only the latest.

1. Dershowitz says hush money is not a crime. It wasn't a crime for Edwards nor for Obama. The DOJ (Barr) can take that one off the table.
Dershowitz: Candidate Entitled To Pay Hush Money, Committed No Election Crime

2. You're assuming that some type of corroboration exists, and that it can't be put under attorney-client privilege. I recall when a judge spanked the prosecutors for violating atty/client.

3. Trump is a shoo-in for 2020, the dems have no one to put up. Besides, what "fraud" are you talking about? By 2020 the "bullshit investigation" will be long forgotten...

Dershowitz is not prosecuting this case and has no inside information.

Cohen has already pleaded guilty, is already convicted and is awaiting sentencing, dope.
It's already a done deal.

I find it hilarious that you believe you know better than the US Attorneys prosecuting the case.

I hope Cohen gets 50-years, that has zero to do with Trump.
Dershowitz knows the Law better than the "sovereign southern district of NY".
We'll see how this plays out won't we.
1. Will Trump be impeached? probably
2. Will Trump be removed? no
3. Will Trump be indicted? no
4. Will Trump be re-elected? probably

What US attorneys are prosecuting the case? Mueller? SouthNY?


I hope Cohen gets 50-years, that has zero to do with Trump.
LoL
But it does. It has everything to do with Trump. He certainly wasn't given a deal to not talk about Trump.

Read about it below, dope.

Analysis | The government implicates Trump and the Trump campaign in federal campaign finance violations

Ok, you do your touchdown dance and spike the ball now, and I'll wait and see how it plays out
1. Will Trump be impeached? probably
2. Will Trump be removed? no
3. Will Trump be indicted? no
4. Will Trump be re-elected? probably
 
ROFL! Once again, you proved exactly nothing. You simply restated your original bogus moronic premise. Show us where a plea bargain has been used as evidence in another trial.

You are a truly retarded little monkey.:piss2:

We just went through this with Manafort, dope.

Paul Manafort breached plea deal by repeatedly lying in Russia inquiry, Mueller says
Your evidence is that Manafort breached the deal?

You are a special kind of moron.

Read the link, dope.

How does it prove that you aren't a moron?
LOL. It's not about me.
It proves that you are, without a doubt, a dope.

Manafort's deal was rescinded because he lied. He didn't hold up his end of the deal that you claim didn't exist.
How does that prove his plea deal can be used as evidenced in another case?

Do you even bother to follow the discussion?

It is about you to the extent that you keep proving what a huge moron you are.
 
Dershowitz is not prosecuting this case and has no inside information.

Cohen has already pleaded guilty, is already convicted and is awaiting sentencing, dope.
It's already a done deal.

I find it hilarious that you believe you know better than the US Attorneys prosecuting the case.

I find it hilarious that you are so stupid you forget the name that matters here. John Edwards. Precedent shows that paying women is NOT a campaign law violation. Mueller swings and misses again. Amazing you think Dershowitz has no inside contacts. You want a stupid little monkey? Look in the mirror.

Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to?

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
 
You are a truly retarded little monkey.:piss2:

We just went through this with Manafort, dope.

Paul Manafort breached plea deal by repeatedly lying in Russia inquiry, Mueller says
Your evidence is that Manafort breached the deal?

You are a special kind of moron.

Read the link, dope.

How does it prove that you aren't a moron?
LOL. It's not about me.
It proves that you are, without a doubt, a dope.

Manafort's deal was rescinded because he lied. He didn't hold up his end of the deal that you claim didn't exist.
How does that prove his plea deal can be used as evidenced in another case?

Do you even bother to follow the discussion?

It is about you to the extent that you keep proving what a huge moron you are.

Yoy have the logic skills of a turnip.
Why else would prosecutors bother to listen to anything further he had to say if it were not useful to them let alone offer leniency in exchange?
 
I find it hilarious that you are so stupid you forget the name that matters here. John Edwards. Precedent shows that paying women is NOT a campaign law violation. Mueller swings and misses again. Amazing you think Dershowitz has no inside contacts. You want a stupid little monkey? Look in the mirror.

Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to? And, yes, defendants have plead guilty to non-crimes in the past. They can plead guilty to making a ham sandwich. All this shows is that the judge is thoroughly corrupt - hardly surprising for a leftwing New York judge.

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
He plead to a non-crime, which is another reason we know that Mueller is a scumbag.
 
Your evidence is that Manafort breached the deal?

You are a special kind of moron.

Read the link, dope.

How does it prove that you aren't a moron?
LOL. It's not about me.
It proves that you are, without a doubt, a dope.

Manafort's deal was rescinded because he lied. He didn't hold up his end of the deal that you claim didn't exist.
How does that prove his plea deal can be used as evidenced in another case?

Do you even bother to follow the discussion?

It is about you to the extent that you keep proving what a huge moron you are.

Yoy have the logic skills of a turnip.
Why else would prosecutors bother to listen to anything further he had to say if it were not useful to them let alone offer leniency in exchange?
The prosecutor told him what to say, moron. That was part of his plea deal.

You really don't understand how this stuff works, do you, shit for brains?
 
Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to? And, yes, defendants have plead guilty to non-crimes in the past. They can plead guilty to making a ham sandwich. All this shows is that the judge is thoroughly corrupt - hardly surprising for a leftwing New York judge.

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
He plead to a non-crime, which is another reason we know that Mueller is a scumbag.
He plead to a non-crime, which is another reason we know that Mueller is a scumbag.

:uhh:
 
Morons like this Trump ass licker above, "forget" the raid of Cohen's office and home where TONS of documents and tapes were screened and soon available for everyone to see..........As if Mueller gives a flying fuck what happens to crooked Cohen......LOL

Mueller is doing to the Republicans in one year what they have been trying to do to the Democrats for decades, and all they can do is call him a liar and blame the Democrats.

:abgg2q.jpg:
17 months you mean'
-Geaux

Flynn plead guilty in Dec 2017 so you do the math
The witch hunt has been ongoing for 17 months and we get a bunch of jaywalkers. Let me know when Mueller comes up with a crime worth the investment

-Geaux
Like in the Whitewater investigation?
 
Alan Dershowitz: Recommended 'substantial' sentence for Michael Cohen bad news for Robert Mueller

Yep. Either Mueller and his angry democrats are LYING about how much help Cohen has been OR they want him to lie to get a lighter sentence since quite a few people they have railroaded are saying the Mueller clowns are wanting people to say things that aren't true to get President Trump.
The SDNY and the Mueller investigation are 2 different things -- the SDNY are asking for a substantial sentence, not Mueller.

By all accounts, he has helped Mueller, but he has not done that in the case of the SDNY -- because that is where he has the most liability, so of course he isn't going to help them out much when its his ass on the line.

How many years did Obama's or Hillary's personal lawyer get sentenced to? Oh wait.
 
“So far, the only solid evidence that he has provided is the campaign contribution issue,” Dershowitz said. “It's a very, very weak case because the president is entitled to pay off women in order to help his family, help his brand.”

HAHA!

Alan Derschowitz used to be a very good criminal lawyer, but he's 80 years old and quite senile.
 
I find it hilarious that you are so stupid you forget the name that matters here. John Edwards. Precedent shows that paying women is NOT a campaign law violation. Mueller swings and misses again. Amazing you think Dershowitz has no inside contacts. You want a stupid little monkey? Look in the mirror.

Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to?

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
Trumpers are saying that the crimes Cohen committed are the good kind of crimes (white collar) so its not really a crime....

However their whole existence hinges on hating Hillary for committing those same type of white collar crimes....they are silly
 
Edwards has not a thing to do with Cohen, dope.


Cohen has already been charged, pleaded guilty, been convicted and is being sentenced on Wednesday. After spilling everything he has on Trump BTW .

It's done. There's nothing to argue.

Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to?

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
Trumpers are saying that the crimes Cohen committed are the good kind of crimes (white collar) so its not really a crime....

However their whole existence hinges on hating Hillary for committing those same type of white collar crimes....they are silly
Trumpers are saying lock Cohen up. Then lock Hillary up. Stop making shit up.
 
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.
Sorry dope. It's the same thing. Paying women to keep quiet is NOT a campaign law violaion. Learn your history. By the way moron, still NOTHING implicating Trump despite your fantasies. Thus YOU are done.

So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to?

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
Trumpers are saying that the crimes Cohen committed are the good kind of crimes (white collar) so its not really a crime....

However their whole existence hinges on hating Hillary for committing those same type of white collar crimes....they are silly
Trumpers are saying lock Cohen up. Then lock Hillary up. Stop making shit up.
No, Trumpers were NOT saying lock Cohen up until Trump himself turned on Cohen...

When Cohen was first indicted, Trumpers were saying what Cohen did was not really a crime....like cult followers do
 
So Cohen was charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime? What a retarded argument.

Who is "individual1", dope?

Look moron, paying women to keep quiet is NOT a crime. Already tried, and settled in the Edwards case. Go ahead and ASSume Trump will go down over this. Will be fun rubbing your face in another of your failed predictions. Mueller will lose and you will cry. Again.

If it's not a crime, then what did Cohen plea to?

You dopes are the dumbest mofos to walk the planet. Do you imagine that federal judges would accept a plea to a non-crime? Or are you saying his plea never really happened?
:laugh2:
Trumpers are saying that the crimes Cohen committed are the good kind of crimes (white collar) so its not really a crime....

However their whole existence hinges on hating Hillary for committing those same type of white collar crimes....they are silly
Trumpers are saying lock Cohen up. Then lock Hillary up. Stop making shit up.
No, Trumpers were NOT saying lock Cohen up until Trump himself turned on Cohen...

When Cohen was first indicted, Trumpers were saying what Cohen did was not really a crime....like cult followers do

I agreed with Dershowitz that attorney-client privilege should be protected. I didn't know that Cohen was such a crook. Then he tries to implicate Trump to get a lighter sentence?? Flynn & Popadop were setup. Manafort had ancient crimes. Cohen is a slimy NYC Bernie Madoff type garden variety crook
Dershowitz: Targeting Trump's lawyer should worry us all
 
I agreed with Dershowitz that attorney-client privilege should be protected.


It FULLY was, moron........It took months for a retired, independent, ex judge to sift through the thousands of documents, emails and tapes to ELIMINATE anything that was attorney-client privileges......

Its funny how you nitwits :"forget: that part.....

(BTW, a very dangerous place would be standing between Dershowitz and a TV camera or print reporter.....)
 
I didn't know that Cohen was such a crook. Then he tries to implicate Trump to get a lighter sentence?? Flynn & Popadop were setup. Manafort had ancient crimes. Cohen is a slimy NYC Bernie Madoff type garden variety crook


Would MORONS.....like you.....at least admit that Trump surrounds himself with CORRUPT CROOKS???...............LOL
 
I didn't know that Cohen was such a crook. Then he tries to implicate Trump to get a lighter sentence?? Flynn & Popadop were setup. Manafort had ancient crimes. Cohen is a slimy NYC Bernie Madoff type garden variety crook


Would MORONS.....like you.....at least admit that Trump surrounds himself with CORRUPT CROOKS???...............LOL

Sure, after hypocrites like you admit that the dems are much worse. Look at the Clinton Foundation, the UraniumOne scam, the illegal bathroom server, Tony Podesta, all of the DOJ & FBI deep state fucks that tried to commit a coup, including Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, and I could go on and on.

Bottom line: Both parties have more than their share of crooks. Its simply a matter of where the DOJ investigates and who they choose to nail. If Trump goes down that's his fault, but Hillary got a free pass, which is total bullshit.
 

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