Despicable....

[jc456]

No easy answers, and gun bans, more regs will not.

will not do anything.

 

[jc456]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

OK, and that's begging how?

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

OK, and that's a punishment, how?

Air Force is government, government failure.

Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about we give felons a free gun as they leave prison, as a reward for doing their time?

How about we give them that gun and state you die if you use it.

 

[Peach]

No quick "solutions" does not mean DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO IMPROVE.

 

[martybegan]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

Air Force is government, government failure.

I agree, the Air Force failed because our system isnt' designed to keep nuts from getting guns.

Again, the gun industry wants nuts to have guns. Then everyone else will want them, too.

he was court-martialed, he should have been on the ban list.

 

[martybegan]

Not that many Joederp.

One is too many.

Meaningless statement.

 

[Peach]

Not that many Joederp.

One is too many.

Meaningless statement.

And no way to improve, don't even bother thinking about the events?

 

[rightwinger]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

Air Force is government, government failure.

I agree, the Air Force failed because our system isnt' designed to keep nuts from getting guns.

Again, the gun industry wants nuts to have guns. Then everyone else will want them, too.

A man who can't control himself and beats women and babies should be able to go into any gun shop and pick out the weapon of his choice

What is wrong with our society?

 

[martybegan]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

OK, and that's begging how?

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

OK, and that's a punishment, how?

Air Force is government, government failure.

Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about letting the good people of the great state of NY decide for themselves what gun laws they want, provided they pass muster with the SCOTUS,

eh? Mr. states rights guy???

How about you allow Alabama to decide it's own abortion laws and marriage laws?

Oh wait, you are a hypocrite and will spout on and on about parts of the constitution that don't exist.

Meanwhile I have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

States rights stop at the rights of the people as enshrined in the Amendments.

You are glad then that the killer in Texas was able to legally obtain guns. Jesus Christ that is some sad shit there.

He was supposed to be on the banned list, and the government failed. Why should I suffer a loss of my rights because of it?

 

[martybegan]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

OK, and that's begging how?

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

OK, and that's a punishment, how?

Air Force is government, government failure.

Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about we give felons a free gun as they leave prison, as a reward for doing their time?

Argumentum ad absurdum, nice try loser.

LOL so we finally found ONE example of access to guns by criminals that you don't support.

Eureka.

Where have i ever said felons should have access to firearms?

 

[rightwinger]

as a gun owner i do believe it is time to examine why these mass shootings are occurring....and perhaps more vetting

They’re occurring because we have abandoned all of our morals as a society. Any society that accepts deviancy like we do gets this kind of thing.

What deviancy is causing massacres?

Total disregard for human life in the womb for one. When a human isn't a human during pregnancy it doesn't hold that much value after birth either. The attacks on Christianity, no morality is being taught to young kids and as a result they are now adults without any. Forced acceptance of every concievable sexual perversion you can think of. Trannies, homo's, hell the left is even starting to push incest and pedophelia as normal. Destruction of families. etc. etc. etc.

Basically everything you liberals stand for.

So the guy stormed a church because we have abortion?

He stormed a church because gays are allowed to marry?

You are completely nuts

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Safer saner by YOUR RULES OR ELSE? Right?

Again, surrender your own freedom for some token safety and suck the government dick on your own time.

No one has absolute free will. Even a hermit is restricted by environment. If you are going to be a positive member of society, you have to be restricted in various ways.

how, what is your solution?

Utilitarianism: The word utilitarian was coined by the philosopher and judge Jeremy Bentham, who argued that his principle of utility would create the "greatest happiness for the greatest number of people." Pragmatic, realistic. Most Americans want stricter gun control. People would be safer and happier with less guns in circulation in the country.

Yeah because every country that give up their guns to the government has been happily starved and enslaved in those safe spaces.

That is totally untrue.Totally. Where do you get these ideas?

Venezuala, China, Russia, Cuba, Germany... You know. History and shit.

 

[martybegan]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

Air Force is government, government failure.

I agree, the Air Force failed because our system isnt' designed to keep nuts from getting guns.

Again, the gun industry wants nuts to have guns. Then everyone else will want them, too.

A man who can't control himself and beats women and babies should be able to go into any gun shop and pick out the weapon of his choice

What is wrong with our society?

The point is he shouldn't have been able to under the current law, and the government failed in its duty to list him.

 

[Kosh]

OK, and that's begging how?


OK, and that's a punishment, how?


Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about letting the good people of the great state of NY decide for themselves what gun laws they want, provided they pass muster with the SCOTUS,

eh? Mr. states rights guy???

How about you allow Alabama to decide it's own abortion laws and marriage laws?

Oh wait, you are a hypocrite and will spout on and on about parts of the constitution that don't exist.

Meanwhile I have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

States rights stop at the rights of the people as enshrined in the Amendments.

You are glad then that the killer in Texas was able to legally obtain guns. Jesus Christ that is some sad shit there.

He was supposed to be on the banned list, and the government failed. Why should I suffer a loss of my rights because of it?

You have to remember these are the ones that want us to solely rely on government for everything!

 

[Missouri_Mike]

as a gun owner i do believe it is time to examine why these mass shootings are occurring....and perhaps more vetting

They’re occurring because we have abandoned all of our morals as a society. Any society that accepts deviancy like we do gets this kind of thing.

What deviancy is causing massacres?

Total disregard for human life in the womb for one. When a human isn't a human during pregnancy it doesn't hold that much value after birth either. The attacks on Christianity, no morality is being taught to young kids and as a result they are now adults without any. Forced acceptance of every concievable sexual perversion you can think of. Trannies, homo's, hell the left is even starting to push incest and pedophelia as normal. Destruction of families. etc. etc. etc.

Basically everything you liberals stand for.

So the guy stormed a church because we have abortion?

He stormed a church because gays are allowed to marry?

You are completely nuts

He did it because he had no moral standing. If you can't follow that then you're either an idiot or being an asshole.

 

[rightwinger]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

OK, and that's begging how?

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

OK, and that's a punishment, how?

Air Force is government, government failure.

Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about letting the good people of the great state of NY decide for themselves what gun laws they want, provided they pass muster with the SCOTUS,

eh? Mr. states rights guy???

How about you allow Alabama to decide it's own abortion laws and marriage laws?

Oh wait, you are a hypocrite and will spout on and on about parts of the constitution that don't exist.

Meanwhile I have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

States rights stop at the rights of the people as enshrined in the Amendments.

Stop whining

Hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers own guns

Stop being so cheap and just buy one

 

[martybegan]

Not that many Joederp.

One is too many.

Meaningless statement.

And no way to improve, don't even bother thinking about the events?

Some things can't be controlled if you want to maintain a free society.

 

[rightwinger]

as a gun owner i do believe it is time to examine why these mass shootings are occurring....and perhaps more vetting

They’re occurring because we have abandoned all of our morals as a society. Any society that accepts deviancy like we do gets this kind of thing.

What deviancy is causing massacres?

Total disregard for human life in the womb for one. When a human isn't a human during pregnancy it doesn't hold that much value after birth either. The attacks on Christianity, no morality is being taught to young kids and as a result they are now adults without any. Forced acceptance of every concievable sexual perversion you can think of. Trannies, homo's, hell the left is even starting to push incest and pedophelia as normal. Destruction of families. etc. etc. etc.

Basically everything you liberals stand for.

So the guy stormed a church because we have abortion?

He stormed a church because gays are allowed to marry?

You are completely nuts

He did it because he had no moral standing. If you can't follow that then you're either an idiot or being an asshole.

No shit Sherlock
His lack of moral standing was he was a wife and child beater not because a woman is allowed to get an abortion

 

[martybegan]

In NYC you have to "show cause" to get a CCW.

OK, and that's begging how?

In NYC you have to pay over $400 and wait 3-6 months just to keep a revolver legally in your own home.

OK, and that's a punishment, how?

Air Force is government, government failure.

Government is only as effective as the people you elect to it. If you want more effective government, stop electing people who think the institution of government is the problem. As PJ O'Rourke says, "[Conservatives] like to say government is the problem, then they get elected and prove it."

How about if you had to show cause to vote?

Again, how about a $100 fee and a 2 week waiting period for an abortion?

The problem is the government at all levels has become too bloated to be responsible to the people.

How about letting the good people of the great state of NY decide for themselves what gun laws they want, provided they pass muster with the SCOTUS,

eh? Mr. states rights guy???

How about you allow Alabama to decide it's own abortion laws and marriage laws?

Oh wait, you are a hypocrite and will spout on and on about parts of the constitution that don't exist.

Meanwhile I have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

States rights stop at the rights of the people as enshrined in the Amendments.

Stop whining

Hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers own guns

Stop being so cheap and just buy one

Stop whining.

Millions of people have ID's and can vote with them.

Stop being so cheap and just get an ID so you can vote.

 

[Peach]

Not that many Joederp.

One is too many.

Meaningless statement.

And no way to improve, don't even bother thinking about the events?

Some things can't be controlled if you want to maintain a free society.

I wrote improve, not throw up your hands but you will want to give up.

 

[martybegan]

Not that many Joederp.

One is too many.

Meaningless statement.

And no way to improve, don't even bother thinking about the events?

Some things can't be controlled if you want to maintain a free society.

I wrote improve, not throw up your hands but you will want to give up.

The issue is the left doesn't stop at improve, they go right to control.