Did George Stephanopoulos trick Trump or help Trump?

[deanrd]

1. Yes the dossier was used to illegally get a FISA warrant
"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo, it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.
FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice"

2. Mueller did not say that the president was guilty of obstruction, he did not recommend indictment, he documented close calls and said he couldn't "exonerate" the president, which is NOT his job. Mueller either indicts or does not indict. Not indicting means "innocent of".

The Democrats are playing word games. No one can be exonerated unless they are indicted first. If you aren't charged or indicted, you are innocent by default. Mueller deliberately used "exonerated" so Democrats could play this game.

he used that term because there was plenty of evidence that the President could have been indicted for, IF HE WERE NOT a sitting president. He was passing it on to the Congress, the only means there is to do any kind of reprimand, for his illegal or wrong doings, that the Constitution gives us.

1000 ex prosecutors and AG's, both Republican and Democratic, said the evidence that Mueller collected on President Trump's obstruction of justice presented in the Mueller report, would have resulted in an indictment for any human being walking this earth... except the president, because the DOJ has a rule, that says the sitting President can NOT be indicted for his CRIMES.

Remember, a criminal indictment does not mean they are guilty... the person being charged criminally, is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Have you noticed that every time Trump has been discovered to have committed another crime or been involved in some kind of treason, Republicans go nuts with the but but but Hillary comments?

She hasn’t been in office for nearly 7 years. That horse is so dead and has been beaten a long time ago. They need to find another scapegoat. A new one.

What crime did Trump commit?

Crimes. Plural.
So let’s review, shall we?

First off, there’s all the on going investigations. Remember the investigation so far have resulted in a 100% conviction rate.

First of all, we know Trump is an indicted co-conspirator in multiple felonies. Michael Cohen has a tape of Trump directing him to commit crimes. Michael Cohen is in prison. Trump is still president.

All the details are in the Mueller report. You can read it because a link is in my signature line.
The pages look very much like this: the

Gee, I hope that helped.

 

[deanrd]

he used that term because there was plenty of evidence that the President could have been indicted for, IF HE WERE NOT a sitting president. He was passing it on to the Congress, the only means there is to do any kind of reprimand, for his illegal or wrong doings, that the Constitution gives us.

1000 ex prosecutors and AG's, both Republican and Democratic, said the evidence that Mueller collected on President Trump's obstruction of justice presented in the Mueller report, would have resulted in an indictment for any human being walking this earth... except the president, because the DOJ has a rule, that says the sitting President can NOT be indicted for his CRIMES.

Remember, a criminal indictment does not mean they are guilty... the person being charged criminally, is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

Indicted for what? Working with the Russians? Oh no that would be Trump.

 

[Care4all]

POTUS is a national security threat. that's not a fucking exaggeration. that's where we are right now

Your trolling seesaw 'talk' has reached perfection....!!!

one post saying crud the Dems agree with, then the next a post where the Repubs can agree with, then the next where the Dems agree with, then the next where the repubs could agree with you! Sowing discord perfection!

BRAVO! Well done!

 

[rightwinger]

Funny how quickly our President backtracked on this one

 

[BS Filter]

Go to 14:30. He clearly says if anybody else did what she did they would probably be charged.

 

[BS Filter]

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

Indicted for what? Working with the Russians? Oh no that would be Trump.

There was no collusion. Mueller said so. Why do you keep lying?

 

[peach174]

Wow. Just fucking Wow. Mueller did not say no obstruction. How fucking stupid are you.
The dossier was not used to get a warrant. Carter got picked up on a wire tap on a suspected Russian operative.

Like I say, investigate all you want. Can't wait until they turn up collusion evidence.

1. Yes the dossier was used to illegally get a FISA warrant
"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo, it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.
FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice"

2. Mueller did not say that the president was guilty of obstruction, he did not recommend indictment, he documented close calls and said he couldn't "exonerate" the president, which is NOT his job. Mueller either indicts or does not indict. Not indicting means "innocent of".

The Democrats are playing word games. No one can be exonerated unless they are indicted first. If you aren't charged or indicted, you are innocent by default. Mueller deliberately used "exonerated" so Democrats could play this game.

So OJ didn't do it?

The DNC and Hillary's campaign paid for dirt on Trump.
Steel went to the Russians and gave the info to the FBI.
FBI fell for fake dossier and then tried to cover it up.

All legakl.

Trump[ said he would accept foreign help & not tell the FBI.

What part of that are you too fucking stupid to get?

He said he'd do both.
So who's being stupid.

"It's not an interference, they have information -- I think I'd take it," Trump said. "If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI -- if I thought there was something wrong."

The law says to take it to the FBI. Not maybe. Not if you don't want to.

Wow. Just fucking Wow. Mueller did not say no obstruction. How fucking stupid are you.
The dossier was not used to get a warrant. Carter got picked up on a wire tap on a suspected Russian operative.

Like I say, investigate all you want. Can't wait until they turn up collusion evidence.

1. Yes the dossier was used to illegally get a FISA warrant
"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo, it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.
FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice"

2. Mueller did not say that the president was guilty of obstruction, he did not recommend indictment, he documented close calls and said he couldn't "exonerate" the president, which is NOT his job. Mueller either indicts or does not indict. Not indicting means "innocent of".

The Democrats are playing word games. No one can be exonerated unless they are indicted first. If you aren't charged or indicted, you are innocent by default. Mueller deliberately used "exonerated" so Democrats could play this game.

So OJ didn't do it?

The DNC and Hillary's campaign paid for dirt on Trump.
Steel went to the Russians and gave the info to the FBI.
FBI fell for fake dossier and then tried to cover it up.

All legakl.

Trump[ said he would accept foreign help & not tell the FBI.

What part of that are you too fucking stupid to get?

He said he'd do both.
So who's being stupid.

"It's not an interference, they have information -- I think I'd take it," Trump said. "If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI -- if I thought there was something wrong."

The law says to take it to the FBI. Not maybe. Not if you don't want to.

Ignore the beginning of what he said.

 

[Care4all]

he used that term because there was plenty of evidence that the President could have been indicted for, IF HE WERE NOT a sitting president. He was passing it on to the Congress, the only means there is to do any kind of reprimand, for his illegal or wrong doings, that the Constitution gives us.

1000 ex prosecutors and AG's, both Republican and Democratic, said the evidence that Mueller collected on President Trump's obstruction of justice presented in the Mueller report, would have resulted in an indictment for any human being walking this earth... except the president, because the DOJ has a rule, that says the sitting President can NOT be indicted for his CRIMES.

Remember, a criminal indictment does not mean they are guilty... the person being charged criminally, is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

comey said they did not indict her, because they could and would NOT get a conviction in a court of law, for what she did.

Not getting a conviction for what she did, means they could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that she intentionally committed a crime. Prosecutors do not bring people to court that they believe with a reasonable amount of certainty, will not be convicted for the crime charged. It's a waste of tax payer's money, and harassment, otherwise.

 

[iceberg]

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

comey said they did not indict her, because they could and would NOT get a conviction in a court of law, for what she did.

Not getting a conviction for what she did, means they could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that she intentionally committed a crime. Prosecutors do not bring people to court that they believe with a reasonable amount of certainty, will not be convicted for the crime charged. It's a waste of tax payer's money, and harassment, otherwise.

like 2 years and more of chasing stupid leftist whining cause they can't get over the butthurt of losing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Clinton didn't hire a foreign government. She paid a firm for oppo-research. Two key points, she paid and not a foreign government. Trump and his fellow cohorts accepted an offer from the Russian government and for free, they didn't have to pay for it which is a campaign finance violation.

Glad we could settle that.

Oh....you can accept foreign help, just not foreign government help.

Can you post the portion of the law that agrees with your distinction?

52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

Which portion says you can pay foreign spies for info?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Republicans are the party of voter suppression

Suppressing the shit out of the illegal alien, dead and fraudulent base of the Dem party.

Oh please. Show me where the dead are voting.

Photo Voter ID is voter suppression. There are no statistics that show significant voter fraud that a photo ID would prevent.

There are no statistics that show significant voter fraud that a photo ID would prevent.

Who are the Dem morons too stupid to have a photo ID in this day and age?

One localion in a county that has no public transportation.

10-12% of eligible voters do not have an accepted photo ID> If you assfucks really wanted them to vote, you would have made it more convenient to get a photo ID
Furrthermore, what is one thing you can get without a photo ID? A phorto ID>

One localion in a county that has no public transportation.

Yeah, some of those Dem counties really suck.
Makes you wonder how the Dem voters manage to sign up for welfare and food stamps.

My county is 70% Republican.

How do I apply for food stamps in Franklin County?

1. Apply online Click here.
2. Request cash, medical or food assistance Click here.
3. Apply in person at your local county agency or to request an application be mailed to you Click here.
4. **Fax all verifications directly to your County Department of Job & Family Services**

Makes you wonder why dumbasses like you like to embarrass themselves here.

Wow!
Sounds like that county doesn't issue any photo IDs to minorities. Bastards!

 

[peach174]

There is all kinds of evidence that Hillary could have been indicted in 2016, but she wasn't.

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

comey said they did not indict her, because they could and would NOT get a conviction in a court of law, for what she did.

Not getting a conviction for what she did, means they could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that she intentionally committed a crime. Prosecutors do not bring people to court that they believe with a reasonable amount of certainty, will not be convicted for the crime charged. It's a waste of tax payer's money, and harassment, otherwise.

Muller's report said the same thing about Trump.
He could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump intentionally committed a crime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

George asked Trump what he would do if a foreign country offered him dirt on a political opponent, accept it or report it to the FBI. Trump said he'd do both, he called it "oppo research", which the dems used as the excuse for their "Steele Dossier" on Trump using foreign intel assets as well as paying Russians for info.

The democrats as well as the MSM are going berserk!
Lindsay Graham said Trump's response was a "mistake".

Trump Says He Would Accept Campaign Dirt From Foreign Goverments, Not Tell FBI - News & Guts Media

Lets take a poll on who the furor helps or hurts...

I wonder if anyone knows the difference between listening to dirt and paying for dirt.
I also wonder if anyone knows the difference between using illegally obtained information that is unverified to spy on your opponent's campaign and reporting this information to the FBI.

Certainly you are not talking about the Trump dossier.

What was illegal about that? Seriously, tell us.

Wghat is illegal about sending an investigator to Russia to find out about Trump's activities there.

What is illegal about reporting what people said?

Why did Trump lie about his Russian activities.

What was illegal about that? Seriously, tell us.

Accepting something of value from a foreigner?

 

[iceberg]

Funny how you want to indict Hillary for some crime, don;t know what it is,. but indict her.

Yet you think Trump has done nothing wrong.

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

comey said they did not indict her, because they could and would NOT get a conviction in a court of law, for what she did.

Not getting a conviction for what she did, means they could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that she intentionally committed a crime. Prosecutors do not bring people to court that they believe with a reasonable amount of certainty, will not be convicted for the crime charged. It's a waste of tax payer's money, and harassment, otherwise.

Muller's report said the same thing about Trump.
He could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump intentionally committed a crime.

ya but for trump it just means they keep looking for ANYTHING that may stick. but for hillary, it's NO - SHE'S INNOCENT STOP!

quite annoying.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Information is not monetary. I wish someone would list the crimes Trump was supposed to commit.
Mueller had 3 years to find something. He came up with a wet noodle.

Information is not monetary. I wish someone would list the crimes Trump was supposed to commit.
Mueller had 3 years to find something. He came up with a wet noodle.

Christ on a Mountain!I gave you the citation that covers that stupidity of yours; "Information is not monetary." But you chose to remain ignorant. here it is again with just that single point isolated so even you can find it with the help of a dull witted third grader:

52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition It shall be unlawful for—

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

Damn...you're dumber than a rock or really making yourself the fool playing at stupid for plausible deniability!

Where is the contribution or donation by foreign nationals, you chinless wonder?

A contribution can be anything of value. Like operating a campaign to dupe people like you.

A contribution can be anything of value.

Like a dossier.

It was not a contribution, dickhead, it was a paid expense.

it was a paid expense.

You're right, they paid for something of value.

Did George Stephanopoulos trick Trump or help Trump?

Check out starting at the 4 minute mark of HappyJoy's video.

 

[peach174]

Comey said she committed crimes. He spelled it out in July of 2016 on National television. Tell me what Trump did.

No he didn't say she committed crimes, he said she (and primarily her staff) was extremely careless...

Was she in bed with the Russians or Chinese or Saudi Arabians or Israel, in a conspiracy to commit crimes? Did she intentionally commit a crime, with malice? She messed up, was not aware of the problems she may have caused. You don't imprison people for that....

shoot, Petreaus INTENTIONALLY gave compartmental top secret Defense documents including defense codes to his lover, who was writing a biography on him, and then lied about doing it to the FBI investigators.... and he only got a Misdemeanor charge in a plea deal, and probation... he never went to jail.

Even if charged with an indictment of a crime, Hillary would not have been locked up either. that's just a made up, right wing, wet dream.

Comey said she could be indicted, but didn't deliberately do it. Therefore, she was let off.

comey said they did not indict her, because they could and would NOT get a conviction in a court of law, for what she did.

Not getting a conviction for what she did, means they could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that she intentionally committed a crime. Prosecutors do not bring people to court that they believe with a reasonable amount of certainty, will not be convicted for the crime charged. It's a waste of tax payer's money, and harassment, otherwise.

Muller's report said the same thing about Trump.
He could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump intentionally committed a crime.

ya but for trump it just means they keep looking for ANYTHING that may stick. but for hillary, it's NO - SHE'S INNOCENT STOP!

quite annoying.

Quite telling.

 

[mudwhistle]

The DNC and Hillary's campaign paid for dirt on Trump.
Steel went to the Russians and gave the info to the FBI.
FBI fell for fake dossier and then tried to cover it up.

uh... NOPE! not even close!

Nope. The FBI knew it was fake and perjured themselves to the FISA judge, a judge who was a Trump critic I might add.

 

[mudwhistle]

No one invented anything. The Clinton campaign hired a opposition research firm. They sent a guy to Russia to see what Trump was doing in Russia. This dossier was not used to get the FISA warrant to find out why a Trump campaign advisor was speaking to the Russians.

Investigate your asses off. While you are at it, investigate why Trump lied about his campaign's Russian contacts, why he lied about his business dealings in Russia, and lied about the Trump Tower meeting.

1. Yes the unverified dossier was used to get a FISA warrant against Carter Page, who was NOT charged with anything. Stay tuned, FBI indictments coming
2. Trump's activities were investigated by Mueller and NO COLLUSION, NO OBSTRUCTION was the outcome.
3. It's Barr's turn at bat, he and Durham, Huber, and Horowitz should have a few more indictments than the Mueller Investigation.

Wow. Just fucking Wow. Mueller did not say no obstruction. How fucking stupid are you.
The dossier was not used to get a warrant. Carter got picked up on a wire tap on a suspected Russian operative.

Like I say, investigate all you want. Can't wait until they turn up collusion evidence.

1. Yes the dossier was used to illegally get a FISA warrant
"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo, it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.
FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice"

2. Mueller did not say that the president was guilty of obstruction, he did not recommend indictment, he documented close calls and said he couldn't "exonerate" the president, which is NOT his job. Mueller either indicts or does not indict. Not indicting means "innocent of".

The Democrats are playing word games. No one can be exonerated unless they are indicted first. If you aren't charged or indicted, you are innocent by default. Mueller deliberately used "exonerated" so Democrats could play this game.

he used that term because there was plenty of evidence that the President could have been indicted for, IF HE WERE NOT a sitting president. He was passing it on to the Congress, the only means there is to do any kind of reprimand, for his illegal or wrong doings, that the Constitution gives us.

1000 ex prosecutors and AG's, both Republican and Democratic, said the evidence that Mueller collected on President Trump's obstruction of justice presented in the Mueller report, would have resulted in an indictment for any human being walking this earth... except the president, because the DOJ has a rule, that says the sitting President can NOT be indicted for his CRIMES.

Remember, a criminal indictment does not mean they are guilty... the person being charged criminally, is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Nope, according to DEMOCRATS an accusation carries as much weight as a conviction.

 

[mudwhistle]

There's nothing perfectly legal about hiring a firm to invent dirt and then use it to illegally spy on political opponents.......and then use it to try to overthrow a presidency just because you lost.

No one hired a firm to CREATE dirt. They hired a firm to investigate a candidate, which is used by all politicians, every single one of them... and they even hire people to do opposition research on themselves, to find out what their competition is going to find out about themselves. GPS was hired by the Washington Free Beacon, to do opposition research on Candidate Trump, who is a Conservative news source...

They did as much research as they could on Donald Trump, with his dealings in the USA, but kept hitting dead ends in the USA, all roads on Trump and his Business doings, lead to Russia.... the Free Beacon then stopped this oppo research because Candidate Trump, had won the Primary... The Wash Free Beacon was doing this opposition research on behalf of another Republican Candidate.

GPS was then hired by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, through the Law Firm that handled ALL OF THE DNC and Clinton campaign Legal issues.... if anyone running as a Democratic candidate in any race, including local, and federal senators, legislators, congress critters... if they had a campaign legal question, they went to this law firm handling their account for an answer or to see if it was legal... like if Russians approached them to give them help in their election run, all of the candidates would have run it by the law firm, to see if it was legal.... (UNLIKE what Donny Junior did....he sought no legal advice at all....when the Russian gvt approached him with dirt on Hillary.)

this firm was paid millions to handle the DNC and Clinton campaign accounts.... Clinton Campaign was a NEW account, but this firm had been the DNC's law firm for YEARS prior to this election in 2016.

In Congressional hearings, with Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson, it came out that Christopher Steele was paid around $150,000 by them, for the investigation in to Trump's Russian ties... they hired Steele because he had previous expertise in Russia.

Steele gathered information from his research and compiled some field notes of what he was being told or found out.

He never said they were true or factual, they were simply what he was finding out, or that was being said.... and that these field notes, later labeled by the press, The Dossier, needed to be investigated to find out the facts/evidence in support of, or deniable evidence... he said the job was too big, for him alone to do...

some of the information he came across was very disturbing and fishy, so he turned it over to the FBI....and then to McCain because he felt the FBI was not doing anything or taking it seriously, as any human being with a sense of ethics would.

--------------------------

When Steele was hired by Fusion GPS/ DNC/Clinton Campaign for opposition research, Trump had just won the primary a couple of weeks earlier...

All polling said Clinton had a LOCK on winning the presidency against him.... something like a 90% chance of her winning against candidate Trump.

NO ONE NEEDED to fabricate some opposition research against Trump in order to win or as a safety net... Steele's investigation began months before we even knew the Russians had stolen the DNC emails and released them, via wikileaks on July 22, 2016, a couple of days before the DNC convention.

Personally I think your logic and your judgement is highly questionable.

No, actually it is your logic and your judgement, that is conspiracy and insensible.... it makes no sense, at all!

And when it comes to interference in elections....it's clear that the media is the guilty of this.

The media, got Donald Trump elected, giving him coverage 24/7 during the campaign, while giving none to Hillary, other than email email emails private server private server private server, FBI Comey announcement, FBI comey reopening the investigation. Even Bernie got more coverage from the Media, than Hillary.

What I think is you believe everything the media tells you and you assume that everything Trump does is illegal.
You're just not levelheaded.

What I think is that you believe everything Trump and FOX News tells you about their made up accusations and made up out of thin air conspiracy theories that absolutely make no sense.... a rewriting of history and actually facts.

Is it possible that Carter Page, after he left the campaign, FISA warrant could have been done unfairly on him...? Sure it is possible.... and the IG is investigating it, and we will find out.

But this has NOTHING at all to do with the FBI beginning their investigation of the Trump campaign for witting or unwitting workings with the Russians who were illegally trying to influence our presidential election. The Mueller report shows 140 contacts between the Russians and the Trump campaign, during the period.

Trump lied, and said there were NONE, Trump also lied and said their were no business deals in the workings.... when he was working a Trump Moscow deal, up until the moment he won.

He also lied about the Trump tower meeting with his son, Kushner, and Manafort to get dirt on Hillary

Lying is a consciousness of guilt...

They hired Fusion GPS to find dirt. Fusion GPS provided faked information they couldn't varify. Hillary gave this fake information to supporters in the DOJ and they used it to commit perjury in court to begin a spying operation against a political opponent.

A deal isn't a deal unless you sign a contract. Just looking into building in Russia isn't a deal. Exploring options isn't a deal. Even if Trump had decided to build, which laws was he breaking????

Everything you believe is coming from media sources that are skilled at manipulation and deception. Half-truths designed to mislead people who are gullible.

Unverified does not mean fake.

An eyewitness to a crime is still evidence even if it can not be verified. How fucking stupid are you people?

Trying to get a deal IS doing business activities.

It is not whether the business was legal, it was that he LIED about it.

lied? you mean like with a cloth?

You do know that her server was NOT subpoenaed by Congress when the server was wiped clean... only the emails for Benghazi and Lybia were subpoenaed by congress and those emails had already been gathered, collected and sent to the government. NOTHING was illegal about cleaning that server, PERIOD.

the FBI did NOT request her server until 5 months after it was wiped clean.

Ya'll are promoting a lie, that Trump told you to say and somehow convinced you to believe.

You're being illogical

 

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No one hired a firm to CREATE dirt. They hired a firm to investigate a candidate, which is used by all politicians, every single one of them... and they even hire people to do opposition research on themselves, to find out what their competition is going to find out about themselves. GPS was hired by the Washington Free Beacon, to do opposition research on Candidate Trump, who is a Conservative news source...

They did as much research as they could on Donald Trump, with his dealings in the USA, but kept hitting dead ends in the USA, all roads on Trump and his Business doings, lead to Russia.... the Free Beacon then stopped this oppo research because Candidate Trump, had won the Primary... The Wash Free Beacon was doing this opposition research on behalf of another Republican Candidate.

GPS was then hired by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, through the Law Firm that handled ALL OF THE DNC and Clinton campaign Legal issues.... if anyone running as a Democratic candidate in any race, including local, and federal senators, legislators, congress critters... if they had a campaign legal question, they went to this law firm handling their account for an answer or to see if it was legal... like if Russians approached them to give them help in their election run, all of the candidates would have run it by the law firm, to see if it was legal.... (UNLIKE what Donny Junior did....he sought no legal advice at all....when the Russian gvt approached him with dirt on Hillary.)

this firm was paid millions to handle the DNC and Clinton campaign accounts.... Clinton Campaign was a NEW account, but this firm had been the DNC's law firm for YEARS prior to this election in 2016.

In Congressional hearings, with Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson, it came out that Christopher Steele was paid around $150,000 by them, for the investigation in to Trump's Russian ties... they hired Steele because he had previous expertise in Russia.

Steele gathered information from his research and compiled some field notes of what he was being told or found out.

He never said they were true or factual, they were simply what he was finding out, or that was being said.... and that these field notes, later labeled by the press, The Dossier, needed to be investigated to find out the facts/evidence in support of, or deniable evidence... he said the job was too big, for him alone to do...

some of the information he came across was very disturbing and fishy, so he turned it over to the FBI....and then to McCain because he felt the FBI was not doing anything or taking it seriously, as any human being with a sense of ethics would.

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When Steele was hired by Fusion GPS/ DNC/Clinton Campaign for opposition research, Trump had just won the primary a couple of weeks earlier...

All polling said Clinton had a LOCK on winning the presidency against him.... something like a 90% chance of her winning against candidate Trump.

NO ONE NEEDED to fabricate some opposition research against Trump in order to win or as a safety net... Steele's investigation began months before we even knew the Russians had stolen the DNC emails and released them, via wikileaks on July 22, 2016, a couple of days before the DNC convention.

No, actually it is your logic and your judgement, that is conspiracy and insensible.... it makes no sense, at all!

The media, got Donald Trump elected, giving him coverage 24/7 during the campaign, while giving none to Hillary, other than email email emails private server private server private server, FBI Comey announcement, FBI comey reopening the investigation. Even Bernie got more coverage from the Media, than Hillary.

What I think is that you believe everything Trump and FOX News tells you about their made up accusations and made up out of thin air conspiracy theories that absolutely make no sense.... a rewriting of history and actually facts.

Is it possible that Carter Page, after he left the campaign, FISA warrant could have been done unfairly on him...? Sure it is possible.... and the IG is investigating it, and we will find out.

But this has NOTHING at all to do with the FBI beginning their investigation of the Trump campaign for witting or unwitting workings with the Russians who were illegally trying to influence our presidential election. The Mueller report shows 140 contacts between the Russians and the Trump campaign, during the period.

Trump lied, and said there were NONE, Trump also lied and said their were no business deals in the workings.... when he was working a Trump Moscow deal, up until the moment he won.

He also lied about the Trump tower meeting with his son, Kushner, and Manafort to get dirt on Hillary

Lying is a consciousness of guilt...

They hired Fusion GPS to find dirt. Fusion GPS provided faked information they couldn't varify. Hillary gave this fake information to supporters in the DOJ and they used it to commit perjury in court to begin a spying operation against a political opponent.

A deal isn't a deal unless you sign a contract. Just looking into building in Russia isn't a deal. Exploring options isn't a deal. Even if Trump had decided to build, which laws was he breaking????

Everything you believe is coming from media sources that are skilled at manipulation and deception. Half-truths designed to mislead people who are gullible.

Unverified does not mean fake.

An eyewitness to a crime is still evidence even if it can not be verified. How fucking stupid are you people?

Trying to get a deal IS doing business activities.

It is not whether the business was legal, it was that he LIED about it.

lied? you mean like with a cloth?

You do know that her server was NOT subpoenaed by Congress when the server was wiped clean... only the emails for Benghazi and Lybia were subpoenaed by congress and those emails had already been gathered, collected and sent to the government. NOTHING was illegal about cleaning that server, PERIOD.

the FBI did NOT request her server until 5 months after it was wiped clean.

Ya'll are promoting a lie, that Trump told you to say and somehow convinced you to believe.

You're being illogical

she's being a stupid-assed moistened bint.