Diversity Is Not A Strength

[Tommy Tainant]

And not a one of those things, will your culture be remembered for...

And ?
Is that the benchmark ?
Havent you got a slavery monument to protect tonight ?

Indeed. It is one of them.

People remember Hitler you dumb fuck. What a contribution he made to "white culture".
Come back when you are an adult.

So, now you're admitting to White culture?

In Tommy's narrow and obsessive mind, there is no White Culture per se, the ONLY White Culture is Hitler and ANYONE who has pride in White Culture is literally Hitler.

Meanwhile:

I seem to recall people from diverse cultures coming together to kick his arse. All races and religions. Diversity saved the world from a wicked ideology.
Its a shame that the notion of "white supremacy" didnt die with Hitler as the world would be a better place.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

White people brought black people here as slaves, then their descendants whine and bitch about diversity.



Hilarious

You didn't watch the video... It's obvious. Diversity is fine, until it reaches a level that it overtakes the native culture. If you must troll, find another thread. This one is for serious discussion about the fallacy that is perpetuated by the globalist left, that claims "diversity is our strength". Which is categorically not true. That is... Unless your sole goal is to win Olympic gold medals...

Nativists made the same argument against different waves of European migrants in the 19th century as well. They argued that the Irish, Italians and Eastern European immigrants brought the papacy and Jews to America, which threatened Protestantism and the American way of life. They were wrong.

FTR, I don't disagree with you that immigration should be controlled and that immigrants should be strongly encouraged to integrate into the local culture. But there is no intrinsic "white" culture. White Europeans who migrated here had very different cultures in the past and were discriminated against by the locals. However, over time, they integrated and that discrimination went away.

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

 

[Vastator]

White people brought black people here as slaves, then their descendants whine and bitch about diversity.



Hilarious

You didn't watch the video... It's obvious. Diversity is fine, until it reaches a level that it overtakes the native culture. If you must troll, find another thread. This one is for serious discussion about the fallacy that is perpetuated by the globalist left, that claims "diversity is our strength". Which is categorically not true. That is... Unless your sole goal is to win Olympic gold medals...

Nativists made the same argument against different waves of European migrants in the 19th century as well. They argued that the Irish, Italians and Eastern European immigrants brought the papacy and Jews to America, which threatened Protestantism and the American way of life. They were wrong.

FTR, I don't disagree with you that immigration should be controlled and that immigrants should be strongly encouraged to integrate into the local culture. But there is no intrinsic "white" culture. White Europeans who migrated here had very different cultures in the past and were discriminated against by the locals. However, over time, they integrated and that discrimination went away.

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, or taking advantage of its resources; for the betterment of their own. Or having it your way... If it had been whites... Success through colonialism.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

White people brought black people here as slaves, then their descendants whine and bitch about diversity.



Hilarious

You didn't watch the video... It's obvious. Diversity is fine, until it reaches a level that it overtakes the native culture. If you must troll, find another thread. This one is for serious discussion about the fallacy that is perpetuated by the globalist left, that claims "diversity is our strength". Which is categorically not true. That is... Unless your sole goal is to win Olympic gold medals...

Nativists made the same argument against different waves of European migrants in the 19th century as well. They argued that the Irish, Italians and Eastern European immigrants brought the papacy and Jews to America, which threatened Protestantism and the American way of life. They were wrong.

FTR, I don't disagree with you that immigration should be controlled and that immigrants should be strongly encouraged to integrate into the local culture. But there is no intrinsic "white" culture. White Europeans who migrated here had very different cultures in the past and were discriminated against by the locals. However, over time, they integrated and that discrimination went away.

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

 

[Vastator]

You didn't watch the video... It's obvious. Diversity is fine, until it reaches a level that it overtakes the native culture. If you must troll, find another thread. This one is for serious discussion about the fallacy that is perpetuated by the globalist left, that claims "diversity is our strength". Which is categorically not true. That is... Unless your sole goal is to win Olympic gold medals...

Nativists made the same argument against different waves of European migrants in the 19th century as well. They argued that the Irish, Italians and Eastern European immigrants brought the papacy and Jews to America, which threatened Protestantism and the American way of life. They were wrong.

FTR, I don't disagree with you that immigration should be controlled and that immigrants should be strongly encouraged to integrate into the local culture. But there is no intrinsic "white" culture. White Europeans who migrated here had very different cultures in the past and were discriminated against by the locals. However, over time, they integrated and that discrimination went away.

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

Not to the native group. It merely represents an opportunity for those who can take advantage of the native group. Nor does said diversity ensure the long term survival, success and continuity of said native group. In point of fact diversity is a liability.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Nativists made the same argument against different waves of European migrants in the 19th century as well. They argued that the Irish, Italians and Eastern European immigrants brought the papacy and Jews to America, which threatened Protestantism and the American way of life. They were wrong.

FTR, I don't disagree with you that immigration should be controlled and that immigrants should be strongly encouraged to integrate into the local culture. But there is no intrinsic "white" culture. White Europeans who migrated here had very different cultures in the past and were discriminated against by the locals. However, over time, they integrated and that discrimination went away.

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

Not to the native group. It merely represents an opportunity for those who can take advantage of the native group. Nor does said diversity ensure the long term survival, success and continuity of said native group. In point of fact diversity is a liability.

So they came over with just a suitcase. Worked hard,created businesses, created jobs, assimilated with the locals and became more British than the British themselves.

What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

 

[Vastator]

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

Not to the native group. It merely represents an opportunity for those who can take advantage of the native group. Nor does said diversity ensure the long term survival, success and continuity of said native group. In point of fact diversity is a liability.

So they came over with just a suitcase. Worked hard,created businesses, created jobs, assimilated with the locals and became more British than the British themselves.

What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

Firstly "British" is a national identity. One national identity in the many that comprise western (white) civilization.
Their idea of what constitutes "being British", is irrelevant. They are not British. It is for the native population, upon the arrival of the outsider to determine if they are British. Or their shared DNA with native Britain's. No vocal claim can ever change their DNA make up. They can no more make legitimate their claim of being British, than you could claim being a dog for merely getting on all fours, crawling into a dog house, and howling at the moon. Your ideas are not only preposterous; but both you, and your ideology are a clear and present danger to the native people's of Britain; and a malignant cancer to western civilization as a whole. There is no lower a creature, worthy of more contempt than a traitor...

 

[Vastator]

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

"What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?"

Stay the fuck home, or at the very least; go "enrich" another third world shithole slightly worse off than the one they come from. They need it more than western civilization does...


What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

Stay the fuck home, or at the very least; go "enrich" another third world shithole slightly worse off than the one they come from. They need it more than western civilization does..


What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

Stay the fuck home, or at the very least; go "enrich" another third world shithole slightly worse off than the one they come from. They need it more than western civilization does.

"What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin" ?


Stay the fuck home, or at the very least; go "enrich" another third world shithole slightly worse off than the one they come from. They need it more than western civilization does.

 

[fncceo]

Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, or taking advantage of its resources; for the betterment of their own.

Tell me about it ...

 

[Vastator]

Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, or taking advantage of its resources; for the betterment of their own.

Tell me about it ...

Precisely...

 

[fncceo]

Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, or taking advantage of its resources; for the betterment of their own.

Tell me about it ...

Precisely...

You can't very well disparage any group of people for coming to a new place for a better life when your entire culture is based on doing just that.

Well, you can ... but you know what it makes you.

 

[Vastator]

Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, or taking advantage of its resources; for the betterment of their own.

Tell me about it ...

Precisely...

You can't very well disparage any group of people for coming to a new place for a better life when your entire culture is based on doing just that.

Well, you can ... but you know what it makes you.

Indeed i do. it makes me a member of a culture that conquered an inferior culture, and is willing to actively take steps to preserve what I value. And I suffer no shame for it.

 

[fncceo]

that conquered an inferior culture,

So, by that argument, if you fear being conquered yourself, you must believe your culture to be inferior.

 

[Vastator]

that conquered an inferior culture,

So, by that argument, if you fear being conquered yourself, you must believe your culture to be inferior.

I believe that it's worth fighting for. If one were to adopt a policy of apathy; destruction is assured. I'd not be one to allow hubris, to strike a death blow to my people with such an egotistical point of veiw. I'll not allow pride, and egocentrism; to move my people to inaction.

 

[fncceo]

I believe that it's worth fighting for.

That's what they thought ... didn't work out so well.

 

[Correll]

What follows is a rather simple explaination, as to why the perpetuated lie that "diversity is our strength"; is not a strength at all. But rather a liability.


You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.
Marcus Aurelius

He talks about diversity causing so many racial and religious problems.

Well the source of those racial or religious problems are down to systems of inequality that are put in place by the dominant group that comes to dominate a particular geographic space, a particular nation-state.

Another problem with his argument is that he ignores that white Europeans, spent the vast majority of history killing each other even though they were of “one race”

What's he talking about ?

And if it were so natural for white folks to separate then why would it be necessary to encourage whites to do this or to form groups to push that notion?

If it was natural, it would be impossible to move whites or any other group from that natural species instinct.

Whites wouldn’t have needed segregation laws to force separation

Whites wouldn’t have needed anti-miscegenation laws to require separation.

Those laws were passed because white people weren’t so sure that they weren’t prepared to stray, weren’t so sure that it was natural to separate.

Questions ?

“What about white flight ? Surely that shows that whites have a natural instinct to separate”

White flight demonstrates the effectiveness of several hundred years of racial propaganda saying that black people are going to be criminal, they’re going to rob you, they don’t make good neighbours.

If you have years and generations of people picking up those kinds of messages and they do pick them up, from several different sources.

If you go to Russia, Serbia, Bosnia, Poland places were there hardly any black people and you talk to white folks who have never even been around black folks, they will come forth with many of these negative stereotypes in spite of no first-hand experience. They’re getting it from somewhere, not from their own reality.

And finally whites will become half or roughly maybe 48% of the USA nation’s population by the latter part of the twenty-first century.

But this idea that whites will be able to have no influence on the culture.

Whites would still be the largest single group by far of any group in the United States.

This idea that white people can’t hang on at 45-50% when these other groups have managed to survive and thrive at 4% in the case of Asians in this country, 12% in the case of blacks, 12% in the case of Latinos, their cultures are doing quite well at being manifested and celebrated and the idea that whites can’t do that at 45%

I mean, whites must be an incredibly weak-willed or genetically defective or culturally retarded group of people if they can’t maintain their own influence at 45%, that just seems insane.

Ironically the intramural rivalry between competing european states during medieval times, and through the renaissance, was the crucible that developed white culture to the point that it became the envy of the world. On the whole... That was white politics.

There is no "white culture" you fucking cretin. There are many different cultures in Europe and vast differences between ,for example, the UK and Poland, or even between different parts of the UK. Language,food,religion,music and so on.
Only a weirdo would think otherwise.

There are white cultures here, cretin. That's sort of the point.

 

[Tilly]

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

Not to the native group. It merely represents an opportunity for those who can take advantage of the native group. Nor does said diversity ensure the long term survival, success and continuity of said native group. In point of fact diversity is a liability.

So they came over with just a suitcase. Worked hard,created businesses, created jobs, assimilated with the locals and became more British than the British themselves.

What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

If they became more British than the British themselves, the diversity is gone.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

And ?
Is that the benchmark ?
Havent you got a slavery monument to protect tonight ?

Indeed. It is one of them.

People remember Hitler you dumb fuck. What a contribution he made to "white culture".
Come back when you are an adult.

So, now you're admitting to White culture?

In Tommy's narrow and obsessive mind, there is no White Culture per se, the ONLY White Culture is Hitler and ANYONE who has pride in White Culture is literally Hitler.

Meanwhile:

I seem to recall people from diverse cultures coming together to kick his arse. All races and religions. Diversity saved the world from a wicked ideology.
Its a shame that the notion of "white supremacy" didnt die with Hitler as the world would be a better place.

It doesn't seem that much more or less non-Whites fought Hitler, than fought for Hitler.

The fact of the matter is most of those who defeated Hitler were also White.

 

[Vastator]

I believe that it's worth fighting for.

That's what they thought ... didn't work out so well.

I hope for a better outcome for my people.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

However the overwhelming majority of those you mention came from nations of familiar, similar, and to an extent shared heritage. In addition to that, they also readily assimilated to American life. They didn't leech of the system the same way our current third world invaders do. Who incidentally pump out kids they cannot afford, that we feed. Big. Big difference.

We have these type of people in the UK and they make the same bullshit points that you do.

Firstly it is the immigrants taking our jobs and then it is the immigrants living on our benefits.

It is stoked by a right wing media on to a low information public.

There is no logic behind it , just hate.

So the natural pattern is as follows. Lots of people come over to work. We are told that they are "swamping our culture". And then they assimilate. Then the next wave "swamps our culture".

The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make.

They fled with nothing but built a new empire

Ironically, the success of the Ugandan Asian community could see it die out. So well has it assimilated to life in Britain that memories of its African past are disappearing. Kapasi has two children and their links to Africa mean little to them. 'They are more British than the British themselves,' he said.

There is logic behind it. Logic called facts...

"The success of the Ugandan Asians pretty much refutes any point you care to make."...

That success is precisely the point... Foreigners using the foundational success of the native group, for the betterment of their own.

And so proving that diversity is a strength.

Not to the native group. It merely represents an opportunity for those who can take advantage of the native group. Nor does said diversity ensure the long term survival, success and continuity of said native group. In point of fact diversity is a liability.

So they came over with just a suitcase. Worked hard,created businesses, created jobs, assimilated with the locals and became more British than the British themselves.

What else would you have them do ? Bleach their skin ?

The majority of Islamic immigrants in the UK, aren't employed.
In Somalians it's over 80% not employed.

Gee, what a blessing.