Do those on the left really want to discuss the whole racism issue?

[LoneLaugher]

So from what we were told, the whole not standing for the national anthem was suppose to generate meaningful discussions about the ills of society?

If so, let's get it on!

First off, there is racism and there will always be racism. Nothing will change this fact.

Secondly, there are things we can do to reduce racism, but it's not a one way road.

What we have in the US today is a black culture steeped in gang violence, drugs, and poverty. It is a self perpetuating fact. Here we have a small number of blacks that are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the US.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a police officer in that violent community. You will always be on your guard. If you lower your guard, you die, but if you "snap" and make the wrong move you get sued. How would you fair at that job?

It is also true that blacks are profiled. Of course, middle eastern men are also profiled on board planes. Why? Is it because of racism? No, it's because most acts of international terrorism are carried out by such people.

Last year, about 250 black men were killed by police officers, and guess what, those police officers were not all white. Now let's consider the violence in Chicago every year. Black on black violence accounts for more than double the number of blacks killed by police officers. Where are the protests about that? There are none to be heard. How is it that police are not suppose to kill blacks when they are killing themselves in such numbers? It is insane.

What we are witnessing is America paying for the sins of the past, but to continually try to blame others for the problem instead of taking accountability for our own short comings is poison.

What say you?

To paragraph 5 I say, why? Answer with some intelligence and we can proceed.

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

 

[G.T.]

This was a mostly great OP.

The fault I find in it is the canaard that nobody talks about black on black violence.


uh, yes they do?

Do you know how many volunteer programs are dedicated, in Chicago ALONE to curbing it?

Do you, and everyone like you that always says "nobody ever talk about black on black crime..."

not count.....as talking about it?


Such a victim.



When both sides stop being a victim, adults in the room can clear the air and start fresh, and reasonably. But everyone wants to be a victim, instead.

So enlighten us.

Tell us about the programs and how they are statistically improving things.

And no, I never hear about it in the news. The only news we hear is when whitey is a racist against blacky.

you did two things here, votto.

you made a straw man

"statistically improving things" was your own invention



you moved goal posts...

from nobody talks about it.....to.."in the news"



why cant you have an adult discussion without weaselling and wasting time? its annoying, stoppit

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

embrace casual conversation about the facts..

you say...


that you didnt bother to even look into


you say.


sorry, sane minds gotta wonder.

 

[Votto]

So enlighten us.

Tell us about the programs and how they are statistically improving things.

And no, I never hear about it in the news. The only news we hear is when whitey is a racist against blacky.

you did two things here, votto.

you made a straw man

"statistically improving things" was your own invention



you moved goal posts...

from nobody talks about it.....to.."in the news"



why cant you have an adult discussion without weaselling and wasting time? its annoying, stoppit

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

embrace casual conversation about the facts..

you say...


that you didnt bother to even look into


you say.


sorry, sane minds gotta wonder.

Sane minds want answers.

Sane minds don't want to throw money at problems and not have their problems any better than before incurring all that debt for nothing.

How has the black plight improved since the Civil Rights movement?

 

[LoneLaugher]

This was a mostly great OP.

The fault I find in it is the canaard that nobody talks about black on black violence.


uh, yes they do?

Do you know how many volunteer programs are dedicated, in Chicago ALONE to curbing it?

Do you, and everyone like you that always says "nobody ever talk about black on black crime..."

not count.....as talking about it?


Such a victim.



When both sides stop being a victim, adults in the room can clear the air and start fresh, and reasonably. But everyone wants to be a victim, instead.

So enlighten us.

Tell us about the programs and how they are statistically improving things.

And no, I never hear about it in the news. The only news we hear is when whitey is a racist against blacky.

you did two things here, votto.

you made a straw man

"statistically improving things" was your own invention



you moved goal posts...

from nobody talks about it.....to.."in the news"



why cant you have an adult discussion without weaselling and wasting time? its annoying, stoppit

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

Yo, G.T. , if you didn't start the program in Chi-town, it must not exist. And if Votto doesn't know about it, it's a fycking lie. Bet.

 

[G.T.]

you did two things here, votto.

you made a straw man

"statistically improving things" was your own invention



you moved goal posts...

from nobody talks about it.....to.."in the news"



why cant you have an adult discussion without weaselling and wasting time? its annoying, stoppit

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

embrace casual conversation about the facts..

you say...


that you didnt bother to even look into


you say.


sorry, sane minds gotta wonder.

Sane minds want answers.

Sane minds don't want to throw money at problems and not have their problems any better than before incurring all that debt for nothing.

How has the black plight improved since the Civil Rights movement?

Quick question...and then we will get back to it.


Which precinct are you down at ..in Chicago..to get your ideas about its black on black crime.....if its not reported?

 

[G.T.]

So enlighten us.

Tell us about the programs and how they are statistically improving things.

And no, I never hear about it in the news. The only news we hear is when whitey is a racist against blacky.

you did two things here, votto.

you made a straw man

"statistically improving things" was your own invention



you moved goal posts...

from nobody talks about it.....to.."in the news"



why cant you have an adult discussion without weaselling and wasting time? its annoying, stoppit

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

Yo, G.T. , if you didn't start the program in Chi-town, it must not exist. And if Votto doesn't know about it, it's a fycking lie. Bet.

Thats why I stay in the Comedy section of the board.

At least there, the comedy is on purpose and not a bunch of fake-smart ass-clown partisan hacks arguing about their imaginary binary world.

 

[Votto]

So from what we were told, the whole not standing for the national anthem was suppose to generate meaningful discussions about the ills of society?

If so, let's get it on!

First off, there is racism and there will always be racism. Nothing will change this fact.

Secondly, there are things we can do to reduce racism, but it's not a one way road.

What we have in the US today is a black culture steeped in gang violence, drugs, and poverty. It is a self perpetuating fact. Here we have a small number of blacks that are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the US.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a police officer in that violent community. You will always be on your guard. If you lower your guard, you die, but if you "snap" and make the wrong move you get sued. How would you fair at that job?

It is also true that blacks are profiled. Of course, middle eastern men are also profiled on board planes. Why? Is it because of racism? No, it's because most acts of international terrorism are carried out by such people.

Last year, about 250 black men were killed by police officers, and guess what, those police officers were not all white. Now let's consider the violence in Chicago every year. Black on black violence accounts for more than double the number of blacks killed by police officers. Where are the protests about that? There are none to be heard. How is it that police are not suppose to kill blacks when they are killing themselves in such numbers? It is insane.

What we are witnessing is America paying for the sins of the past, but to continually try to blame others for the problem instead of taking accountability for our own short comings is poison.

What say you?

To paragraph 5 I say, why? Answer with some intelligence and we can proceed.

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

So what are the causes of violence and poverty?

Well the roots of poverty can be traced to the slave era and the violence just helps perpetuate it.

Do poor folk trend exponencially toward violence? During the Great Depression this does not seem to be the case. I realize from a left winged perspective poverty = violence, at least, according to Marx, but I disagree.

Would the culture change much if we threw trillions of dollars at them?

What say you? Would the violence go away?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Votto , please support your claim that the MAJORITY OF VIOLENT CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY BLACK PEOPLE.

Thanks.

 

[LoneLaugher]

So from what we were told, the whole not standing for the national anthem was suppose to generate meaningful discussions about the ills of society?

If so, let's get it on!

First off, there is racism and there will always be racism. Nothing will change this fact.

Secondly, there are things we can do to reduce racism, but it's not a one way road.

What we have in the US today is a black culture steeped in gang violence, drugs, and poverty. It is a self perpetuating fact. Here we have a small number of blacks that are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the US.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a police officer in that violent community. You will always be on your guard. If you lower your guard, you die, but if you "snap" and make the wrong move you get sued. How would you fair at that job?

It is also true that blacks are profiled. Of course, middle eastern men are also profiled on board planes. Why? Is it because of racism? No, it's because most acts of international terrorism are carried out by such people.

Last year, about 250 black men were killed by police officers, and guess what, those police officers were not all white. Now let's consider the violence in Chicago every year. Black on black violence accounts for more than double the number of blacks killed by police officers. Where are the protests about that? There are none to be heard. How is it that police are not suppose to kill blacks when they are killing themselves in such numbers? It is insane.

What we are witnessing is America paying for the sins of the past, but to continually try to blame others for the problem instead of taking accountability for our own short comings is poison.

What say you?

To paragraph 5 I say, why? Answer with some intelligence and we can proceed.

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

So what are the causes of violence and poverty?

Well the roots of poverty can be traced to the slave era and the violence just helps perpetuate it.

Do poor folk trend exponencially toward violence? During the Great Depression this does not seem to be the case. I realize from a left winged perspective poverty = violence, at least, according to Marx, but I disagree.

Would the culture change much if we threw trillions of dollars at them?

What say you? Would the violence go away?

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, let's discuss RACISM and the Dems' role in propagating it.


Here are a few unassailable facts to consider:

--While the secession debate was between the North and the South, the slavery debate was between a pro-slavery Democratic Party and an anti-slavery Republican Party.

--Two of the three Democrats that Lincoln identified as the champions of slavery—Stephen Douglas and James Buchanan—were Northerners. Only one, Roger Taney, was a Southerner.

--Even after Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, the Democratic platform in 1864 sought a treaty with the Confederacy that would most likely involve a restoration of slavery.

--After the Civil War, the Democrats overwhelmingly opposed the Thirteenth Amendment freeing the slaves, the Fourteenth Amendment granting equal rights under law, and the Fifteenth Amendment giving blacks the right to vote.

--Jim Crow is entirely a legacy of the Democratic Party. Every segregation law enacted in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials.

--After Republicans shut it down in the late nineteenth century, the Ku Klux Klan was revived in the early twentieth century by a progressive Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson, who screened a pro-KKK movie in the White House.

--For decades the Klan served, in the words of progressive historian Eric Foner, as “the domestic terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.” David Duke is an anomaly; virtually every KKK leader for the past 150 years has been a Democrat.

--As historian Ira Katznelson shows, in order to get the New Deal passed, progressive icon Franklin Delano Roosevelt made deals with racist Democrats to block anti-lynching legislation and to exclude African Americans from most New Deal programs.

--More Republicans than Democrats proportionately voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Fair Housing Bill of 1968. The main opposition to the civil rights movement came not from the GOP but from racist Democrats....

Dinesh D'Souza: Colin Kaepernick's big lie

Question, what is a Dixiecrat?

And where did they settle in 2017 politics?

Pathetic diversion.

Is what I would expect from a conservative in denial.

So what happened in the republic party to their members that voted for the 1964 Civil Rights bill?

Which party shed its racist southern influence and which one embraced it as a "southern strategy?

Which party advocated for a poll tax and for voter ID in current day?


And finally which party includes Dave duke?

"The Civil Rights Act -- which is best known for barring discrimination in public accommodations -- passed the House on Feb. 10, 1964 by a margin of 290-130. When broken down by party, 61 percent of Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill (152 yeas and 96 nays), and a full 80 percent of the Republican caucus supported it (138 yeas and 34 nays).

When the Senate passed the measure on June 19, 1964, -- nine days after supporters mustered enough votes to end the longest filibuster in Senate history -- the margin was 73-27. Better than two-thirds of Senate Democrats supported the measure on final passage (46 yeas, 21 nays), but an even stronger 82 percent of Republicans supported it (27 yeas, 6 nays).

When the Voting Rights Act hit the floor in 1965, the vote results mirrored those of the Civil Rights Act. In the House, the measure passed by a 333-85 margin, with 78 percent of Democrats backing it (221 yeas and 61 nays) and 82 percent of Republicans backing it (112 yeas to 24 nays).

In the Senate, the measure passed by a 77-19 vote, with 73 percent of Democrats and 94 percent of Republicans supporting the bill."

Steele says GOP fought hard for civil rights bills in 1960s

 

[Votto]

Votto , please support your claim that the MAJORITY OF VIOLENT CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY BLACK PEOPLE.

Thanks.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf


Blacks were victims of an estimated 805,000 nonfatal


violent crimes and of about 8,000 homicides in 2005. While

blacks accounted for 13% of the U.S. population in 2005,

they were victims in 15% of all nonfatal violent crimes and

nearly half of all homicides. These findings are based on

data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime

Victimization Survey (NCVS) and the Federal Bureau of

Investigation’s (FBI) Uniform Crime Reporting Program

(UCR), Supplementary Homicide Reports.

 

[Correll]

What could I, a small businessman in central Florida, possibly gain from calling a person I don't know personally, on a message board, a bigot or white suoremscist?

....

You are a sadist and you get off on being verbally abusive?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Votto , please support your claim that the MAJORITY OF VIOLENT CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY BLACK PEOPLE.

Thanks.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf


Blacks were victims of an estimated 805,000 nonfatal


violent crimes and of about 8,000 homicides in 2005. While

blacks accounted for 13% of the U.S. population in 2005,

they were victims in 15% of all nonfatal violent crimes and

nearly half of all homicides. These findings are based on

data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime

Victimization Survey (NCVS) and the Federal Bureau of

Investigation’s (FBI) Uniform Crime Reporting Program

(UCR), Supplementary Homicide Reports.

Fail.

 

[Votto]

So from what we were told, the whole not standing for the national anthem was suppose to generate meaningful discussions about the ills of society?

If so, let's get it on!

First off, there is racism and there will always be racism. Nothing will change this fact.

Secondly, there are things we can do to reduce racism, but it's not a one way road.

What we have in the US today is a black culture steeped in gang violence, drugs, and poverty. It is a self perpetuating fact. Here we have a small number of blacks that are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the US.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a police officer in that violent community. You will always be on your guard. If you lower your guard, you die, but if you "snap" and make the wrong move you get sued. How would you fair at that job?

It is also true that blacks are profiled. Of course, middle eastern men are also profiled on board planes. Why? Is it because of racism? No, it's because most acts of international terrorism are carried out by such people.

Last year, about 250 black men were killed by police officers, and guess what, those police officers were not all white. Now let's consider the violence in Chicago every year. Black on black violence accounts for more than double the number of blacks killed by police officers. Where are the protests about that? There are none to be heard. How is it that police are not suppose to kill blacks when they are killing themselves in such numbers? It is insane.

What we are witnessing is America paying for the sins of the past, but to continually try to blame others for the problem instead of taking accountability for our own short comings is poison.

What say you?

To paragraph 5 I say, why? Answer with some intelligence and we can proceed.

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

So what are the causes of violence and poverty?

Well the roots of poverty can be traced to the slave era and the violence just helps perpetuate it.

Do poor folk trend exponencially toward violence? During the Great Depression this does not seem to be the case. I realize from a left winged perspective poverty = violence, at least, according to Marx, but I disagree.

Would the culture change much if we threw trillions of dollars at them?

What say you? Would the violence go away?

You didn't answer the question.

I was looking back at some pictures from the 1960's Civil Rights march.

Something struck me odd. Blacks were respectful and they seemed to be well dressed. Why, especially before getting their Civil Rights later on? They were also carrying Bibles and holding hands.

It is a vast difference from what we saw in Ferguson with burning buildings and rioting as they looked like animals.

One accomplished something, the other is accomplishing nothing but the tearing apart of society.

Why is this? I think it is because they have lost their faith.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What could I, a small businessman in central Florida, possibly gain from calling a person I don't know personally, on a message board, a bigot or white suoremscist?

....

You are a sadist and you get off on being verbally abusive?

Why would you say that? I've left you alone ever since you told me that I upset you. Periodically, you respond to me and I rarely reply. If I am as you say, does that make you a masochist?

 

[LoneLaugher]

To paragraph 5 I say, why? Answer with some intelligence and we can proceed.

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

So what are the causes of violence and poverty?

Well the roots of poverty can be traced to the slave era and the violence just helps perpetuate it.

Do poor folk trend exponencially toward violence? During the Great Depression this does not seem to be the case. I realize from a left winged perspective poverty = violence, at least, according to Marx, but I disagree.

Would the culture change much if we threw trillions of dollars at them?

What say you? Would the violence go away?

You didn't answer the question.

I was looking back at some pictures from the 1960's Civil Rights march.

Something struck me odd. Blacks were respectful and they seemed to be well dressed. They were also carrying Bibles and holding hands.

It is a vast difference from what we saw in Ferguson with burning buildings and rioting as they looked like animals.

One accomplished something, the other is accomplishing nothing but the tearing apart of society.

Why is this? I think it is because they have lost their faith.

Yeah. That must be it.

 

[Votto]

Ok, then just talk about what programs there are and what they do.

Are you not wanting to know, on purpose?

All you had to do was google. These arent invented out of thin air, theyre real living, breathing humans dude.

Do you ever counter research your hyperbole because ...if im not mistaking......you wrote a 6 hour long OP and didnt even BOTHER to vet it for accuracy.

why?

anti violence programs chicago - Google Search

and theres no protests?

type this into google, try it yourself this time: "anti+violence+protest+chicago"


and then correct your OP that nobody protests black on black crime when...thats just the 1st city we even got you to bother to research





you decry folks n9t wanting to have a real discussion


then you post lies, and dont even bother to research if you may be off base


and then you come back and wonder why theres no real discussion on the topic.


prolly need to look really deeply into what youre all about some day, dude

Get off your high horse. I created this thread for conversation, not for chest thumping.

This is not a term paper, it's just a casual discussion.

How many people do you reckon researches such issues? All we hear in the media is racial baiting and meaningless drivel. Embrace some casual conversation about the facts for a change instead of being such a pompous SOB.

So are you familiar with any of these programs or did you just randomly google a bunch of programs you have no familiarity with?

embrace casual conversation about the facts..

you say...


that you didnt bother to even look into


you say.


sorry, sane minds gotta wonder.

Sane minds want answers.

Sane minds don't want to throw money at problems and not have their problems any better than before incurring all that debt for nothing.

How has the black plight improved since the Civil Rights movement?

Quick question...and then we will get back to it.


Which precinct are you down at ..in Chicago..to get your ideas about its black on black crime.....if its not reported?

I don't live in Chicago but all I hear is the black on black homicide numbers coming out of Chicago.

Are you saying it is all fake news?

 

[Votto]

So why is the black culture steeped in poverty and violence?

I asked you. Why can't you answer?

So what are the causes of violence and poverty?

Well the roots of poverty can be traced to the slave era and the violence just helps perpetuate it.

Do poor folk trend exponencially toward violence? During the Great Depression this does not seem to be the case. I realize from a left winged perspective poverty = violence, at least, according to Marx, but I disagree.

Would the culture change much if we threw trillions of dollars at them?

What say you? Would the violence go away?

You didn't answer the question.

I was looking back at some pictures from the 1960's Civil Rights march.

Something struck me odd. Blacks were respectful and they seemed to be well dressed. They were also carrying Bibles and holding hands.

It is a vast difference from what we saw in Ferguson with burning buildings and rioting as they looked like animals.

One accomplished something, the other is accomplishing nothing but the tearing apart of society.

Why is this? I think it is because they have lost their faith.

Yeah. That must be it.

What is your theory?

Or is this show me yours and I will show you mine BS?

 

[Votto]

Votto , please support your claim that the MAJORITY OF VIOLENT CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY BLACK PEOPLE.

Thanks.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf


Blacks were victims of an estimated 805,000 nonfatal


violent crimes and of about 8,000 homicides in 2005. While

blacks accounted for 13% of the U.S. population in 2005,

they were victims in 15% of all nonfatal violent crimes and

nearly half of all homicides. These findings are based on

data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime

Victimization Survey (NCVS) and the Federal Bureau of

Investigation’s (FBI) Uniform Crime Reporting Program

(UCR), Supplementary Homicide Reports.

Fail.

Fail? Fail what?

Is this your idea of conversation?

 

[Correll]

What could I, a small businessman in central Florida, possibly gain from calling a person I don't know personally, on a message board, a bigot or white suoremscist?

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You are a sadist and you get off on being verbally abusive?

Why would you say that? I've left you alone ever since you told me that I upset you. Periodically, you respond to me and I rarely reply. If I am as you say, does that make you a masochist?

I say that because of my observations of your behavior, and some of what I have read on the issue of internet trolls.


And, no, I am not a masochist.


It is obviously irrational of me to talk to people like you, but a desire for pain is not my motivation.