Don't worry about climate until you see stuff like in this photo

[Woodznutz]

EVIDENCE???

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE OF SEA LEVEL RISE ON FLA???

YOU HAVE NO SUCH EVIDENCE, only PARROTED FUDGED FRAUD BULLSHIT

I said deluged by tropical rainfall not flooded by the sea. Don't you watch the news?

 

[EMH]

I said deluged by tropical rainfall not flooded by the sea. Don't you watch the news?

YOUR SIDE is claiming an OCEAN RISE because of an ONGOING NET ICE MELT.

You are functionally admitting THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH.


and that is why you CHANGE THE SUBJECT....

 

[Woodznutz]

YOUR SIDE is claiming an OCEAN RISE because of an ONGOING NET ICE MELT.

You are functionally admitting THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH.


and that is why you CHANGE THE SUBJECT....

The subject has several facets.
The seas are rising slightly due to heat expansion, and it is causing problems in south Florida and elsewhere.

 

[ReinyDays]

The subject has several facets.
The seas are rising slightly due to heat expansion, and it is causing problems in south Florida and elsewhere.

That's my understanding ... sea level rise is due mostly to thermal expansion, and not so much ice melt ... the confusion comes from so much ice is melting, except this is sea ice, and melting here doesn't effect sea level (much) ...

The problems in Florida are due to ground water pumping ... and the ground is subsiding far quicker than sea levels are rising ... same in Louisiana and California's San Joaquin Valley ...

Phaw ... if Florida isn't worth it ... don't bother with sea walls ... maybe only Japan deserves to survive because they build sea walls ... "Around 350 kilometers of seawalls have been built since 2011 — with another 80 kilometers under construction — at a budget of ¥1.3 trillion (roughly $12 billion). Designed to protect Tohoku from any future tsunamis, these gray giants are at once visually striking and, to me, horrific eyesores that seem engineered to erase the existence of the sea."

 

[Woodznutz]

That's my understanding ... sea level rise is due mostly to thermal expansion, and not so much ice melt ... the confusion comes from so much ice is melting, except this is sea ice, and melting here doesn't effect sea level (much) ...

The problems in Florida are due to ground water pumping ... and the ground is subsiding far quicker than sea levels are rising ... same in Louisiana and California's San Joaquin Valley ...

Phaw ... if Florida isn't worth it ... don't bother with sea walls ... maybe only Japan deserves to survive because they build sea walls ... "Around 350 kilometers of seawalls have been built since 2011 — with another 80 kilometers under construction — at a budget of ¥1.3 trillion (roughly $12 billion). Designed to protect Tohoku from any future tsunamis, these gray giants are at once visually striking and, to me, horrific eyesores that seem engineered to erase the existence of the sea."

Just watched a show on the Galveston disaster. The city wanted to build a sea wall but the meteorologist they hired insisted that they were in no danger from hurricanes. The rest is history.

 

[San Souci]

Dust Bowl was a major example of man’s impact on the climate

No. It was an example of Bad Farming techniques.

 

[rightwinger]

No. It was an example of Bad Farming techniques.

Which created a 10 year drought and dust storm

 

[EMH]

The subject has several facets.
The seas are rising slightly due to heat expansion, and it is causing problems in south Florida and elsewhere.

Then surely you can show us a PHOTO where the ocean is rising... other than islands in the South Pacific approaching PROF...

 

[EMH]

sea level rise is due mostly to thermal expansion, and not so much ice melt

The American taxpayer does not need to fund your sick lying rear end, and you cannot show any ocean rise in a photo either.

You were noticeably absent from the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE ISSUE too....

 

[ReinyDays]

The American taxpayer does not need to fund your sick lying rear end, and you cannot show any ocean rise in a photo either.

You were noticeably absent from the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE ISSUE too....

We use altimeters ... you know ... scientific instruments ... the rise in a century is less than tidal ranges in six hours in most places ... why would a photo show this? ...

Surface pressure is 1 atmosphere ... 1013 millibars ... or in SI units 101,300 pascals = newtons per square meter ... there's no issue ...

 

[Crick]

Which created a 10 year drought and dust storm

I'm afraid they're right this time. The human actions that led to the Dust Bowl did not affect the climate. They affected the soil's stability.

 

[ding]

I'm afraid they're right this time. The human actions that led to the Dust Bowl did not affect the climate. They affected the soil's stability.

Sort of like urbanization doesn't affect albedo or the climate.

 

[EMH]

Surface pressure is 1 atmosphere ... 1013 millibars ... or in SI units 101,300 pascals = newtons per square meter ... there's no issue ...

LOL!!!

YOUR SIDE says

Earth is warming
Earth is experiencing a net ongoing ice melt

and we both agree we take hydrocarbons from Earth and let that loose in the atmosphere.

ALL of that should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, yet that is not happening. WHY?

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL!!!

YOUR SIDE says

Earth is warming
Earth is experiencing a net ongoing ice melt

and we both agree we take hydrocarbons from Earth and let that loose in the atmosphere.

ALL of that should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, yet that is not happening. WHY?

Conservation of mass ... do you know how to read a barometer? ...

We don't agree on hydrocarbons ... most are liquids or solids at atmospheric temperatures ... [giggle] ... do fish nest in trees? ...

 

[EMH]

Conservation of mass ... do you know how to read a barometer? ...

We don't agree on hydrocarbons ... most are liquids or solids at atmospheric temperatures ... [giggle] ... do fish nest in trees? ...

Laughable.

We take oil and natural gas out of the ground (which is NOT in the ATMOSPHERE) and burn both, putting a C into O2 to make Co2, which increases the mass of the gas in the atmosphere and hence surface air pressure.

Surface Air Pressure is actually dropping slightly. What affects surface air pressure?

1. Ice melting. Inside glacier ice is massive amounts of compressed trapped gas. When ice melts, that gas is released back into the atmosphere, INCREASING surface air pressure. What would cause surface air pressure to drop? NET ICE GROWTH like what NASA and British Court 2007 both said, that ANTARCTIC ICE HAS BEEN INCREASING THE WHOLE TIME.

2. Temperature. Increase in temperature increases surface air pressure. Decrease in temperature reduces surface air pressue.

3. Taking hydrocarbons out of the ground and burning them.


3 out of 3 things your side claims should INCREASE surface air pressure, but that is not happening. Surface air pressure is actually dropping slightly proving

NO TEMPERATURE INCREASE
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

which explains why your side cannot produce one single photo of "ocean rise."