Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Redfish]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

and MLK's niece is a big Trump supporter. Thanks MLK.

Yea...Alveda sold herself out for the publicity

How does the rest of the family feel about Trump?

That is only one misguided person in his whole family. It means nothing.

she has been designated as the family spokesperson since MLK was shot. I am quite sure the family shares her views or she would not be allowed to state them publically.

The family has disowned Alveda
She speaks for herself

can you prove that?

 

[Redfish]

Oh, so now you understand the concept that a nation or a people can be "cool" or "great", even if they, in other ways, did not live up to your modern PC standards.


Now that you understand that, let US revisit the Americans of the 1940s, who fought and died in large numbers, to save the World from the Evil of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.



Were they "great" or not?

Especially the black Americans who went to liberate people half way across the world while they themselves were treated as second class citizens back home...so much so, that they were lynched just for wearing the uniform. If anything was great about America back then, it was definitely them.


The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

How many people lynched black veterans?

We will never know who participated and who was complicit

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

 

[Redfish]

Normally I would decry your cowardly dodge there.


BUt instead, I went and reread the OP.
Way

ANd all it did was make some of the same vague, unsupported assertions you have made.


HOW MANY AMERICANS TOOK PART LYNCHING, ARSON, ASSAULT?

Way too many

They lynched 4000 people

In the 1940s? Bullshit.

You didn’t read the article did you?

I read the op. There was no link to a larger article.


AND, like I said, "4000" is bullshit.



Lynching peaked before the end of the 1800s. The numbers I've seen for the post WWii, or the Civil Rights are, have been, dozens, or scores.


Smearing all the members of a nation of well over one hundred million, because of the actions of a few hundred people,


is not a reasonable thing to do.


America of the 1940s was a great nation.

OP is original material

4000 lynchings is in the history of the US

Post WWII?
How about Medgar Evers, Emmit Till and the Mississippi Burning trio?

and the KKK democrats who did those things have been tried, convicted, and punished. Lets not forget that the KKK was an arm of the democrat party from its inception and that the KKK existed in every state, one of the largest was in Illinois.

 

[Redfish]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

And all his work was nullified by Obama

Dr King would have been thrilled with the election of Obama

It was the fulfillment of his.......I have a dream

He might have been happy to see a half black guy elected president, but his philosophy was nothing like Obama's. He would much more likely support blacks like Alan West and Ben Carson. Blacks that worked hard and succeeded.

 

[rightwinger]

Especially the black Americans who went to liberate people half way across the world while they themselves were treated as second class citizens back home...so much so, that they were lynched just for wearing the uniform. If anything was great about America back then, it was definitely them.


The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

How many people lynched black veterans?

We will never know who participated and who was complicit

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

 

[Redfish]

How many people lynched black veterans?

We will never know who participated and who was complicit

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

 

[rightwinger]

We will never know who participated and who was complicit

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

The New Yorker?
Go fuk yourself

No, every other country has not had the same experience......unless you count South Africa

 

[rightwinger]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

And all his work was nullified by Obama

Dr King would have been thrilled with the election of Obama

It was the fulfillment of his.......I have a dream

He might have been happy to see a half black guy elected president, but his philosophy was nothing like Obama's. He would much more likely support blacks like Alan West and Ben Carson. Blacks that worked hard and succeeded.

Alan West and Ben Carson?

What did they ever do to help others ?

 

[Redfish]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

And all his work was nullified by Obama

Dr King would have been thrilled with the election of Obama

It was the fulfillment of his.......I have a dream

He might have been happy to see a half black guy elected president, but his philosophy was nothing like Obama's. He would much more likely support blacks like Alan West and Ben Carson. Blacks that worked hard and succeeded.

Alan West and Ben Carson?

What did they ever do to help others ?

Carson saved the lives of hundreds of damaged children, West fought for this country. What did Obama do to help others? or either Clinton? or Beto, or Cameltoe, or Pelosi, or Schumer?

MLK did great things for this country, he was a true transformational man. He should be honored. No one disagrees with that except a few far right assholes.

 

[Redfish]

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

The New Yorker?
Go fuk yourself

No, every other country has not had the same experience......unless you count South Africa

there are slaves today in muslim countries, some of them are black, some are white, some are Asian. Is that ok with you?

 

[Redfish]

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

The New Yorker?
Go fuk yourself

No, every other country has not had the same experience......unless you count South Africa

the New Yorker used to be a legitimate magazine, today it has become a left wing propaganda rag, just like the NY times.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

We will never know who participated and who was complicit

You won't. Because you refuse to consider any information that might challenge your world view.

You are a coward like that.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

I take what my actual grandfather and other relatives who ACTUALLY lived thru that time and experienced it has to say over the delusions of a closet racist such as yourself...

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

And all his work was nullified by Obama

Dr King would have been thrilled with the election of Obama

It was the fulfillment of his.......I have a dream

He might have been happy to see a half black guy elected president, but his philosophy was nothing like Obama's. He would much more likely support blacks like Alan West and Ben Carson. Blacks that worked hard and succeeded.

You clearly have no idea who Martin Luther King was or what he stood for or else you wouldn't keep saying dumb shit...Here are a few quotes from Dr. King so he can personally tell you how delusional you are.

Here is King on capitalism "I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic… [Capitalism] started out with a noble and high motive… but like most human systems it fell victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has out-lived its usefulness.” -- Is that something Alan West talks about? Nope

Here is some more of King on the same subject: “And one day we must ask the question, ‘Why are there forty million poor people in America? And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth.’ When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I’m simply saying that more and more, we’ve got to begin to ask questions about the whole society…Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children." -- Sounds exactly like something "REPUBLICAN" Ben Carson has said huh? Nope.

“We must recognize that we can’t solve our problem now until there is a radical redistribution of economic and political power… this means a revolution of values and other things. We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together… you can’t really get rid of one without getting rid of the others… the whole structure of American life must be changed. America is a hypocritical nation and [we] must put [our] own house in order.”- I am sure good Christian "non-racist" republicans like Steve King have said similar things time and time again huh? Nope.

Martin Luther King on Capitalism in His Own Words

As much as you folks try to claim King would have been a republican nowadays, it would help if you bothered to read his own speeches first.

 

[NoNukes]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

and MLK's niece is a big Trump supporter. Thanks MLK.

Yea...Alveda sold herself out for the publicity

How does the rest of the family feel about Trump?

That is only one misguided person in his whole family. It means nothing.

she has been designated as the family spokesperson since MLK was shot. I am quite sure the family shares her views or she would not be allowed to state them publically.

You do not know that and it seems highly unlikely.

 

[NoNukes]

Happy Birthday Dr King

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you

And all his work was nullified by Obama

Dr King would have been thrilled with the election of Obama

It was the fulfillment of his.......I have a dream

Actually, as he won against Hillary in the primaries because of his black skin and not the content of his character,


it is actually a complete and total repudiation of his dream.

He beat Hillary because he was the better candidate and we now know that she was much less popular than people thought.

He was an inexperienced lightweight. He would have been ignored, if not for his black skin.

He had charisma and many of us did not look at the color of his skin. That was what you guys focused on.

 

[NoNukes]

That was one hell of an aspect

MLK saved us without resorting to violence

Only to some one completely ignorant of history.


Your reactions to the normal level of bitter partisanship that Obama was subject to, your choice to smear half the nation with the false accusation of racism, your choice to tell minorities that republicans were "Whitelashing" against a black president,

made a mockery of King and his dream.

I am well aware of our history

That is why I honor MLK in this thread

Only to some one completely ignorant of history.


Your reactions to the normal level of bitter partisanship that Obama was subject to, your choice to smear half the nation with the false accusation of racism, your choice to tell minorities that republicans were "Whitelashing" against a black president,

made a mockery of King and his dream.

During Obama’s,s tenure we saw how racist the nation still was.

That is fucking bullshit. Did we impeach him? Did we fly a balloon of him wearing a fucking diaper?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Desperado]

He had charisma

So did Obama and Hitler, not a guarantee of a good person

 

[NoNukes]

He had charisma

So did Obama and Hitler, not a guarantee of a good person

But we saw what a good person he was. A poor analogy.

 

[rightwinger]

After WWII, the US ran a victory lap

We had defeated Germany and Japan. We were rebuilding Europe and Japan on a concept of Liberty and Justice

We held ourselves up to the world as a model of democracy.

But Negroes saw differently. Negro soldiers came back expecting to be treated like heroes, just like other soldiers were. Instead, they were called boy and told to ride on the back of the bus. They were considered dirty.

No more than animals. You can’t eat in the same room as whites. You can’t sleep in a hotel whites use. Can’t drink from the same water fountain. Use the same bathroom.

War is over Negro. Go back to your same status as a second class citizen

Dr Martin Luther King saved us

 

[NoNukes]

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

The New Yorker?
Go fuk yourself

No, every other country has not had the same experience......unless you count South Africa

the New Yorker used to be a legitimate magazine, today it has become a left wing propaganda rag, just like the NY times.

Lynching along with arson,assault and intimidation were common.
Especially among returning black veterans. For some reason they were considered “uppity” for expecting to be treated with respect

bullshit, complete lies. provide some news clips from the 1950s to prove your claim, or STFU and crawl back under your rock.

The Tragic, Forgotten History of Black Military Veterans

I take with a grain of salt anything published by the New Yorker, but lets assume the article is accurate. There is a lot of our history that includes terrible abuses of various people, jews, pollocks, irish, native americans, Japanese, blacks, Christians, Muslims, and others.

Every country in the world has those kinds of things in its history. If we try to erase it by removing the things that remind us of it, then we fail to learn from history. It is also true that those of us living today cannot undo the wrongs of our ancestors any more that Germans today can undo what the Third Reich did, or Japanese today can undo what Hiro Hito did, Or Ungandans today can undo what Idi Amin did.

That's why I strongly objected to removing confederate statues. We need to remember our history in order to not repeat it.

We are seeing the same kinds of discriminatory rhetoric today against white males and Christians. Discrimination exists in many forms, to pretend that the only victims were blacks is ignorant and damaging.

The New Yorker?
Go fuk yourself

No, every other country has not had the same experience......unless you count South Africa

the New Yorker used to be a legitimate magazine, today it has become a left wing propaganda rag, just like the NY times.

It is still a legitimate magazine, they just think differently than you. And I could have just stopped with 'think'.