Drs. Rebelling Against O'Care, Famous Hospitals Refusing to Join

[Jackson]

Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join


Obamacare applicants across the country are finding their premiums are tripling, their favorite doctors aren't available, the physicians they can see are often far away and many prestigious hospitals offering specialized care are off-limits to them, according to a Washington Examiner survey of health insurance agents and brokers across the country.

Agents associated with the National Association of Health Underwriters were contacted in 16 cites across the country. Their responses provide an alarming picture of the profound changes Obamacare is forcing on patients and health care providers.

• 
  In parts of California, for example, low reimbursement rates have resulted in a doctor rebellion, as nearly seven out of 10 doctors refuse to participate in the exchanges.

• San Diego broker Neil Crosby told the Examiner that "65 to 70 percent of the providers have declined the reimbursement schedules the carriers are offering. They will not be providers in the exchange marketplace.”

• "Roughly a third of the doctors are going to be accepted in the networks. I’m finding very few specialists in either the Anthem or Blue Shield networks.”

• Broker Carol Taylor of Roanoke, Va., estimated that participating doctor networks there are shrinking by 70 percent in the exchange plans

• Health insurance providers like United Healthcare, Aetna, Cigna and Coventry are staying out of the Obamacare exchange marketplaces.

• Other well-known companies such as Blue Cross Blue Shield are in, but are sharply narrowing their networks to exclude many doctors, as well as elite hospitals.

• In Georgia, Humana exchange patients are discovering the insurer operates only one approved hospital in the entire state.

More at the link…

Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join | WashingtonExaminer.com News&utm_source=foxnews.com&utm_medium=feed

 

[Vox]

In Georgia, Humana exchange patients are discovering the insurer operates only one approved hospital in the entire state.

wow. that is a big state, not a small NH.

poor people.
obama and dimocraps should be castrated publicly for this atrocity.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

I have had the same doctor for 30 years. When Obamacare was passed, I asked him what he was going to do. He said that he just had to hire another person to work with the insurance paperwork. A group of doctors that he associates with, estimated that Obamacare would literally double the paperwork that they were now coping with just for private insurance. He told me at that time that he wasn't sure what he was going to do, but payments for services were down and requirements for paperwork was way up.

A year later, when I went in for a visit, my doctor told me that he was no longer accepting insurance of any kind. You wanted to see him, then you had to pay cash. He also advised that I could pay a monthly amount and I could then see him anytime for any length of time for any reason. He explained that since he was moving to an 'all cash' business, he was going to be able to lay off five of his office clerks and reduce the amount of paperwork exponentially. He got the idea while in Washington state attending a conference. Apparently, theres a large number of doctors there who started a cash only clinic and were literally swamped with business. They have had to turn doctors away.

It was about six months later when he told me that he was joining a group of doctors that were all going to the cash only business. I pay him $200.00 a month and when I call for an appointment, I go in and get to see him for as long as I need. What routine stuff he used to send me to others for, he now does in his office. If I called him, he even told me that he would come out to the ranch anytime.

Obamacare may have done something unintended. It may have brought BETTER health care to those who want no part of it.

 

[Jackson]

When all of this comes to light, I think there is going to be a demand for revamping Obamacare. Either that or repeal. This is just such a mess. People are not getting the care they need.

 

[Vox]

I have had the same doctor for 30 years. When Obamacare was passed, I asked him what he was going to do. He said that he just had to hire another person to work with the insurance paperwork. A group of doctors that he associates with, estimated that Obamacare would literally double the paperwork that they were now coping with just for private insurance. He told me at that time that he wasn't sure what he was going to do, but payments for services were down and requirements for paperwork was way up.

A year later, when I went in for a visit, my doctor told me that he was no longer accepting insurance of any kind. You wanted to see him, then you had to pay cash. He also advised that I could pay a monthly amount and I could then see him anytime for any length of time for any reason. He explained that since he was moving to an 'all cash' business, he was going to be able to lay off five of his office clerks and reduce the amount of paperwork exponentially. He got the idea while in Washington state attending a conference. Apparently, theres a large number of doctors there who started a cash only clinic and were literally swamped with business. They have had to turn doctors away.

It was about six months later when he told me that he was joining a group of doctors that were all going to the cash only business. I pay him $200.00 a month and when I call for an appointment, I go in and get to see him for as long as I need. What routine stuff he used to send me to others for, he now does in his office. If I called him, he even told me that he would come out to the ranch anytime.

Obamacare may have done something unintended. It may have brought BETTER health care to those who want no part of it.

OK, that's just a visit, generally people do not see doctors regularly if they are healthy.
What are you doing for lab work, screening procedures and elective surgery?
It will also go this direction, but I am just interested if there is any model already.

 

[Vox]

When all of this comes to light, I think there is going to be a demand for revamping Obamacare. Either that or repeal. This is just such a mess. People are not getting the care they need.

I really hope it is going to be total repeal, because this atrocity will ruin all research and renovation and the advance in medicine we have. And we ARE the best in the world.

 

[Sunshine]

Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join


Obamacare applicants across the country are finding their premiums are tripling, their favorite doctors aren't available, the physicians they can see are often far away and many prestigious hospitals offering specialized care are off-limits to them, according to a Washington Examiner survey of health insurance agents and brokers across the country.

Agents associated with the National Association of Health Underwriters were contacted in 16 cites across the country. Their responses provide an alarming picture of the profound changes Obamacare is forcing on patients and health care providers.

• 
  In parts of California, for example, low reimbursement rates have resulted in a doctor rebellion, as nearly seven out of 10 doctors refuse to participate in the exchanges.

• San Diego broker Neil Crosby told the Examiner that "65 to 70 percent of the providers have declined the reimbursement schedules the carriers are offering. They will not be providers in the exchange marketplace.”

• "Roughly a third of the doctors are going to be accepted in the networks. I’m finding very few specialists in either the Anthem or Blue Shield networks.”

• Broker Carol Taylor of Roanoke, Va., estimated that participating doctor networks there are shrinking by 70 percent in the exchange plans

• Health insurance providers like United Healthcare, Aetna, Cigna and Coventry are staying out of the Obamacare exchange marketplaces.

• Other well-known companies such as Blue Cross Blue Shield are in, but are sharply narrowing their networks to exclude many doctors, as well as elite hospitals.

• In Georgia, Humana exchange patients are discovering the insurer operates only one approved hospital in the entire state.

More at the link…

Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join | WashingtonExaminer.com News&utm_source=foxnews.com&utm_medium=feed

And this is what opened up the market for NPs when TennCare hit Tennessee. I worked at one clinic where the medical director said he was tired of all the prima donna doctors and he was just going to have all NPs and supervise them himself.

 

[MACAULAY]

It looks like the country has a chance to be saved, eventually and after considerable pain, from this disastrous Socialist experiment by one fact: It was conceived and implemented by incompetent Socialists.

That's Obama and his crowd of Chicago politicos. Incompetent Socialists and liars.

The mistake they made...and no competent Socialist would ever make it...is that they sent the bill for this horseshit to the Middle Class. Due and payable immediately.

The richest 1 percent and even the richest 10 percent aren't affected. They'll be going to all those great hospitals and doctors that are running from Obamacare.

Its the Middle Class that takes the hit and there is going to be Hell to pay for the Democrat/Socialists/Liars the next time the Jeffersonians have a chance to go to the polls.

 

[Vox]

And this is what opened up the market for NPs when TennCare hit Tennessee. I worked at one clinic where the medical director said he was tired of all the prima donna doctors and he was just going to have all NPs and supervise them himself.

and that is absolutely OK. we can have two-tier, three-tier and even five-tier system - the market in it's best.

 

[Vox]

It looks like the country has a chance to be saved, eventually and after considerable pain, from this disastrous Socialist experiment by one fact: It was conceived and implemented by incompetent Socialists.

That's Obama and his crowd of Chicago politicos. Incompetent Socialists and liars.

The mistake they made...and no competent Socialist would ever make it...is that they sent the bill for this horseshit to the Middle Class. Due and payable immediately.

The richest 1 percent and even the richest 10 percent aren't affected. They'll be going to all those great hospitals and doctors that are running from Obamacare.

Its the Middle Class that takes the hit and there is going to be Hell to pay for the Democrat/Socialists/Liars the next time the Jeffersonians have a chance to go to the polls.

they are affected and even very affected. and they are not happy as well - as obamacare is aimed at total destruction of the private insurance market as we know it and it will start with ruin of the employer provided insurance.
1% and 10% know that those remaining hospitals and the medicine as it is can not be functioning without people from the middle class which can afford their insurance as they did until now - because 10% of the population is not enough to have them running.

therefore as I stated before - if we want to prevent a total massacre of the best medicine in the world as we know it - this atrocity should be repealed.

 

[candycorn]

Sounds like this is the end...

Sincerely,

"Obamacare is Unconstitutional"

cc: "Obamacare will cost him the election"

 

[Jackson]

It looks like the country has a chance to be saved, eventually and after considerable pain, from this disastrous Socialist experiment by one fact: It was conceived and implemented by incompetent Socialists.

That's Obama and his crowd of Chicago politicos. Incompetent Socialists and liars.

The mistake they made...and no competent Socialist would ever make it...is that they sent the bill for this horseshit to the Middle Class. Due and payable immediately.

The richest 1 percent and even the richest 10 percent aren't affected. They'll be going to all those great hospitals and doctors that are running from Obamacare.

Its the Middle Class that takes the hit and there is going to be Hell to pay for the Democrat/Socialists/Liars the next time the Jeffersonians have a chance to go to the polls.

You are right. At least there are more of us than there are of the rich. They picked the wrong foe this time. And they hit us where it hurts. They will pay. November 2014.

 

[Vox]

Sounds like this is the end...

Sincerely,

"Obamacare is Unconstitutional"

cc: "Obamacare will cost him the election"

no, the end will be when you ( God forbid) need a XXI century diagnosis which includes gene mapping and other nice tricks available NOW for a lump in a breast and the small community hospital you are assigned to by obamacare does not do it and provides oncology care at the level of 1995.

 

[Jackson]

Sounds like this is the end...

Sincerely,

"Obamacare is Unconstitutional"

cc: "Obamacare will cost him the election"

SC Justice John Roberts has a second bite of the apple although it appears to be small potatoes, anything can happen. Maybe he'll find Obamacare unconstitutional on the grounds of freedom of religion....then back to the drawing board and the Democrats don't dare make the same mistake twice. Ah, join me in my fantasy world!

 

[Vox]

You are right. At least there are more of us than there are of the rich. They picked the wrong foe this time. And they hit us where it hurts. They will pay. November 2014.

you were not a foe. You, and me, and everybody else here, as a middle class, were the main aim, the goal and the prize of this - as we always are - the left ALWAYS robs the middle class to enrich the Wall street and big business. And themselves, of course.

Only now it is extremely bold robbery and therefore there is a chance the middle class will revolt.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

People on Obamacare are in for a big shock......

when they find out they can't access a specialist for their problem....

when they discover the children's hospital won't accept their O'care coverage for their sick kid...

when they find out the ambulance will only take them across town to that 'crowded' hospital....

 

[Vox]

People on Obamacare are in for a big shock......

when they find out they can't access a specialist for their problem....

when they discover the children's hospital won't accept their O'care coverage for their sick kid...

when they find out the ambulance will only take them across town to that 'crowded' hospital....

or when the discover they have to pay 40% for everything AFTER the extreme deductible to get care where they need to and when they dscover that out-of the pocket maximum for the family might be 60 thousand dollars!!!

 

[Jackson]

You are right. At least there are more of us than there are of the rich. They picked the wrong foe this time. And they hit us where it hurts. They will pay. November 2014.

you were not a foe. You, and me, and everybody else here, as a middle class, were the main aim, the goal and the prize of this - as we always are - the left ALWAYS robs the middle class to enrich the Wall street and big business. And themselves, of course.

Only now it is extremely bold robbery and therefore there is a chance the middle class will revolt.

And revolt they will. The hear 2010 was child's play. Watch what happens in 2014 and 2016. I'. not thrilled that the Republicans will take the House and the Senate by large margins. I think it's better when we have evenly matched houses with Independents and moderates voting their minds for the country.

If the Republicans are smart, they will reach across the aisle and include the democrats in the process. But get rid of Reid and Pelosi first.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

I have had the same doctor for 30 years. When Obamacare was passed, I asked him what he was going to do. He said that he just had to hire another person to work with the insurance paperwork. A group of doctors that he associates with, estimated that Obamacare would literally double the paperwork that they were now coping with just for private insurance. He told me at that time that he wasn't sure what he was going to do, but payments for services were down and requirements for paperwork was way up.

A year later, when I went in for a visit, my doctor told me that he was no longer accepting insurance of any kind. You wanted to see him, then you had to pay cash. He also advised that I could pay a monthly amount and I could then see him anytime for any length of time for any reason. He explained that since he was moving to an 'all cash' business, he was going to be able to lay off five of his office clerks and reduce the amount of paperwork exponentially. He got the idea while in Washington state attending a conference. Apparently, theres a large number of doctors there who started a cash only clinic and were literally swamped with business. They have had to turn doctors away.

It was about six months later when he told me that he was joining a group of doctors that were all going to the cash only business. I pay him $200.00 a month and when I call for an appointment, I go in and get to see him for as long as I need. What routine stuff he used to send me to others for, he now does in his office. If I called him, he even told me that he would come out to the ranch anytime.

Obamacare may have done something unintended. It may have brought BETTER health care to those who want no part of it.

This underscores what I have been saying. Insurance companies have NO BUSINESS in the matters of human health.

Other 1st World countries know this. Why America does not? It's called a corporatocracy and the insurance companies and banks are its monarchs.

 

[candycorn]

I think Obamacare may solve the immigration problem. It seems as though Doctors are now going to go to work picking grapefruit, comquats, etc...

Thank you Mr. President.