Elementary school shooting

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody can read your post and laugh at you. But you are a loon, so go for it. We can all use the grins and chuckles.

 

[saveliberty]

Frankly, I'd rather have a shooter than arsonist or bomber. The recent shooter could have bound his mom at home. Packed the car with diesel fuel and fertilizer killing far more. If mass murder is the goal, a gun really isn't the best choice.

 

[Nosmo King]

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

Guns do not discharge on their own. The shooter is always at fault.

Many a police officer has taken comfort in rural areas when the farmer or rancher shows as back up. The rest are basically ambassors of liberal thought.

As to liability, schools have liability when they don't adequately protect students too. Your gun free zones are total failures in protecting students or staff. Schools should be sued for acting that irresponsibly. Liberals who deflect form the problem of mental health in our society are the problem.

If the gun wasn't there in the first place, there would be no shooter. Millions of guns available to disturbed shooters is the problem. And it's not fair to place the blood of shooting victims exclusively on the shoulders of the mentally ill. There's enough blood wrought by far too many guns to merely blame the mentally ill.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Tell that to Newtown, to Denver, to Norway, to a dozen other places. The firearms are easily carried and disguised.

You try buying the amount of fertilizer you need for such a bomb, and you will end up in Gitmo before you get the truck out of your driveway.

 

[rightwinger]

There is nothing mentally stimulating about debating libtards, but if you really want a discussion, tell me what is wrong with allowing concealed carry license holders among a schools faculty to take some extra training, get covered on liability insurance, be put on a list og guardians at the school and then carry guns concealed?

It works for Isreal and Thailand, so why cant it work here?

Respond to that with rationality and maybe we can have a real discussion. Else yo are just another fatheadd libtard neoMarxist who just cannot waith till Obama goes all Chavez on us, or maybe ewvenStalinesque.

Israel has some of the strictest gun control regulations in the world. Do you want to go there too?

That has nothing to do with them using armed teachers to guard students, jack ass.

I see

Only pick that part of Israeli security that supports your agenda

 

[saveliberty]

If the gun wasn't there in the first place, there would be no shooter. Millions of guns available to disturbed shooters is the problem. And it's not fair to place the blood of shooting victims exclusively on the shoulders of the mentally ill. There's enough blood wrought by far too many guns to merely blame the mentally ill.

There is far more fertilizer and diesel fuel in the US than guns. You want to kill people in quantity? A gun is not a good choice.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Try it, Gitmore (heh heh) for you. Firearms are great choices for mass murder.

 

[MisterBeale]

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[bigrebnc1775]

The shooter is always at fault, no one has said anything differently.

However, the weapon he uses has far greater potential for mass murder than a shovel, or a knife, or an auto.

I may rethink the latter when you are able to get a vehicle through the front doors and down the halls of a school.

The guns are the problem The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

Guns do not discharge on their own. The shooter is always at fault.

Many a police officer has taken comfort in rural areas when the farmer or rancher shows as back up. The rest are basically ambassors of liberal thought.

As to liability, schools have liability when they don't adequately protect students too. Your gun free zones are total failures in protecting students or staff. Schools should be sued for acting that irresponsibly. Liberals who deflect form the problem of mental health in our society are the problem.

You have very selective reading skills

Nosmo King won't be happy until all the guns are gone and Nosmo's dull wit is the sharpest weapon on Earth. Prevention is one of the best defenses available. In some cases the attacker won't choose the school as a target to begin with, knowing there are people defending it.

The argument that everything must be perfect or the risk too great is painfully stupid.

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

 

[saveliberty]

I was getting to that Reb. lol

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both of you have fail so far on this point.

Try accumulating the amount of fertilizer and diesel fuel for such an attach, and you won't make it out of the driveway without police assistance.

 

[saveliberty]

Both of you have fail so far on this point.

Try accumulating the amount of fertilizer and diesel fuel for such an attach, and you won't make it out of the driveway without police assistance.

Interesting story Jake. So please explain how an unlicensed driver made it five miles to a school with three guns and a huge supply of bullets without police discovery. See, my story actually happened and your just making stuff up.

Have a good night Jake and Reb. Save some of this for our last day on Earth okay?

 

[Nosmo King]

If the gun wasn't there in the first place, there would be no shooter. Millions of guns available to disturbed shooters is the problem. And it's not fair to place the blood of shooting victims exclusively on the shoulders of the mentally ill. There's enough blood wrought by far too many guns to merely blame the mentally ill.

There is far more fertilizer and diesel fuel in the US than guns. You want to kill people in quantity? A gun is not a good choice.

If fertilizer was processed only to be rendered into explosives, if diesel fuel had only one use; that as a catalyst in a bomb, you may have a point. What are assault rifles built to do?

 

[JakeStarkey]

False derivative analogy and a false comparison in logic by you, saveliberty.

I already stated that it is much easier to disguise firearms than the rolling bomb you want to make.

Your comment does infer a concern about mental illness. That concern will need to be part of regulations. A registration and waiting period for every gun show in America will need to be regulated as well.

The legislatures are going to be busy next year.

 

[saveliberty]

If the gun wasn't there in the first place, there would be no shooter. Millions of guns available to disturbed shooters is the problem. And it's not fair to place the blood of shooting victims exclusively on the shoulders of the mentally ill. There's enough blood wrought by far too many guns to merely blame the mentally ill.

There is far more fertilizer and diesel fuel in the US than guns. You want to kill people in quantity? A gun is not a good choice.

If fertilizer was processed only to be rendered into explosives, if diesel fuel had only one use; that as a catalyst in a bomb, you may have a point. What are assault rifles built to do?

Scare the crap out of liberals and government officals. Works like a charm.

 

[saveliberty]

False derivative analogy and a false comparison in logic by you, saveliberty.

I already stated that it is much easier to disguise firearms than the rolling bomb you want to make.

Your comment does infer a concern about mental illness. That concern will need to be part of regulations. A registration and waiting period for every gun show in America will need to be regulated as well.

The legislatures are going to be busy next year.

Wrong Jake. Look up the largest mass killing in a school. What was the weapon? I'll give you two clues. It was in Michigan and a longtime ago.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Both of you have fail so far on this point.

Try accumulating the amount of fertilizer and diesel fuel for such an attach, and you won't make it out of the driveway without police assistance.

You said

The shooter is always at fault, no one has said anything differently.

In a post that was blaming guns. You have a selective reading skill.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If the gun wasn't there in the first place, there would be no shooter. Millions of guns available to disturbed shooters is the problem. And it's not fair to place the blood of shooting victims exclusively on the shoulders of the mentally ill. There's enough blood wrought by far too many guns to merely blame the mentally ill.

There is far more fertilizer and diesel fuel in the US than guns. You want to kill people in quantity? A gun is not a good choice.

If fertilizer was processed only to be rendered into explosives, if diesel fuel had only one use; that as a catalyst in a bomb, you may have a point. What are assault rifles built to do?

Firearms have a purpose you seem to over look to defend with.

 

[saveliberty]

Can I go to bed NOW???

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Can I go to bed NOW???

I wouldn't if I were you it's almost the end of the world.