Elementary school shooting

[JimBowie1958]

One of the reasons that we are in a crisis as a country is that the civic virtue of radical extremist right and the radical extremist left threaten the vision of the Founders.

If the far left and far right and libertarians so corrupt American civic virtue, we will fall into a police state that will come gunning for them and then for the rest of us.

Stand down, fellows, stand down if you love America.

Eat shit, Starkey, you godam liar.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Those who lack American civic virtue like JimBowie are simply wad stains on the ground.

They have litte influence in America and the GOP.

They are worthless.

Gosh, thanks, Starkey.

If I had the approval of cumstained twinks like you, I would fucking kill myself.

 

[Nosmo King]

You are a fucking moron, bitch.

Well argued, sir! Concise, yet throughly logical. Point well made!


And they put little cuckoo emoticons to bolster their position. Isn't this grand debate of the issues of the day a stimulating past-time? One is really are given a grand opportunity to size up the intellects on the other end of the wire! Far too stimulating for my mind!

There is nothing mentally stimulating about debating libtards, but if you really want a discussion, tell me what is wrong with allowing concealed carry license holders among a schools faculty to take some extra training, get covered on liability insurance, be put on a list og guardians at the school and then carry guns concealed?

It works for Isreal and Thailand, so why cant it work here?

Respond to that with rationality and maybe we can have a real discussion. Else yo are just another fatheadd libtard neoMarxist who just cannot waith till Obama goes all Chavez on us, or maybe ewvenStalinesque.

Funding.


Liability and funding.


Schools have gone hat in hand for decades. Money for books, the libraries to house the books, the Librarians to organize the books. Electricity to illuminate the books. And the whole time we're told public funding is tight and no extras can we afford. Our public education system has been demeaned, ridiculed, under funded and under appreciated for so long, perhaps we're believing that, like spending hawks everywhere, education is something we don't care too much for in our budgets.

Well, maybe that's true. We should not have a Department of Education or teachers making what the deserve. But suddenly we have the means to arm and train school personnel? We can't eek out a dime for books, but millions for new guns (who's the big winner there?)

Tell me where the money is suddenly coming from and will that guarantee safety as much as absolutely no assault weapons around anywhere?

If guns make safety, how was it that in 1981 an assailant wounded four with six shots while nearly everyone present was not only armed, but expert marksmen and proficient with guns? Ronald Reagan was surrounded by an armed cadre. He was wounded. James Brady was surrounded by and armed cadre. He too was wounded. Thomas Delahanty was wounded. He was a District of Columbia police officer. Timothy MCarthy was wounded. He was a Secret Service agent.

And a teacher's aide, responsible for the lives of children, should have quicker reactions, better discipline, more experience and training than the United States Secret Service and the District of Columbia Police Force?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You have no influence at all.

You simply are hot air here letting out your rage.

And you have no civic virtue whatsoever.

Nosmo King has rhetorically bent you over backwards and stuck your head up your ass, so you can feel it as she metaphorically kicks your balls into your bowels.

You are simply no match for your betters on this Board.

Those who lack American civic virtue like JimBowie are simply wad stains on the ground.

They have litte influence in America and the GOP.

They are worthless.

Gosh, thanks, Starkey.

If I had the approval of cumstained twinks like you, I would fucking kill myself.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well argued, sir! Concise, yet throughly logical. Point well made!


And they put little cuckoo emoticons to bolster their position. Isn't this grand debate of the issues of the day a stimulating past-time? One is really are given a grand opportunity to size up the intellects on the other end of the wire! Far too stimulating for my mind!

There is nothing mentally stimulating about debating libtards, but if you really want a discussion, tell me what is wrong with allowing concealed carry license holders among a schools faculty to take some extra training, get covered on liability insurance, be put on a list og guardians at the school and then carry guns concealed?

It works for Isreal and Thailand, so why cant it work here?

Respond to that with rationality and maybe we can have a real discussion. Else yo are just another fatheadd libtard neoMarxist who just cannot waith till Obama goes all Chavez on us, or maybe ewvenStalinesque.

Funding.


Liability and funding.


Schools have gone hat in hand for decades. Money for books, the libraries to house the books, the Librarians to organize the books. Electricity to illuminate the books. And the whole time we're told public funding is tight and no extras can we afford. Our public education system has been demeaned, ridiculed, under funded and under appreciated for so long, perhaps we're believing that, like spending hawks everywhere, education is something we don't care too much for in our budgets.

Well, maybe that's true. We should not have a Department of Education or teachers making what the deserve. But suddenly we have the means to arm and train school personnel? We can't eek out a dime for books, but millions for new guns (who's the big winner there?)

Tell me where the money is suddenly coming from and will that guarantee safety as much as absolutely no assault weapons around anywhere?

If guns make safety, how was it that in 1981 an assailant wounded four with six shots while nearly everyone present was not only armed, but expert marksmen and proficient with guns? Ronald Reagan was surrounded by an armed cadre. He was wounded. James Brady was surrounded by and armed cadre. He too was wounded. Thomas Delahanty was wounded. He was a District of Columbia police officer. Timothy MCarthy was wounded. He was a Secret Service agent.

And a teacher's aide, responsible for the lives of children, should have quicker reactions, better discipline, more experience and training than the United States Secret Service and the District of Columbia Police Force?

The volunteer guardians would provid etheir own weap[ons and pay for their own training, most of whom would have aleady had it if they are concealed carry license holders.

Anyway, not too bad for a liberal!

Keep it coming! That was fun!

 

[JimBowie1958]

You have no influence at all.

You simply are hot air here letting out your rage.

And you have no civic virtue whatsoever.

Nosmo King has rhetorically bent you over backwards and stuck your head up your ass, so you can feel it as she metaphorically kicks your balls into your bowels.

You are simply no match for your betters on this Board.

Fuck off Starkey, you ass hole creep.

 

[Nosmo King]

There is nothing mentally stimulating about debating libtards, but if you really want a discussion, tell me what is wrong with allowing concealed carry license holders among a schools faculty to take some extra training, get covered on liability insurance, be put on a list og guardians at the school and then carry guns concealed?

It works for Isreal and Thailand, so why cant it work here?

Respond to that with rationality and maybe we can have a real discussion. Else yo are just another fatheadd libtard neoMarxist who just cannot waith till Obama goes all Chavez on us, or maybe ewvenStalinesque.

Funding.


Liability and funding.


Schools have gone hat in hand for decades. Money for books, the libraries to house the books, the Librarians to organize the books. Electricity to illuminate the books. And the whole time we're told public funding is tight and no extras can we afford. Our public education system has been demeaned, ridiculed, under funded and under appreciated for so long, perhaps we're believing that, like spending hawks everywhere, education is something we don't care too much for in our budgets.

Well, maybe that's true. We should not have a Department of Education or teachers making what the deserve. But suddenly we have the means to arm and train school personnel? We can't eek out a dime for books, but millions for new guns (who's the big winner there?)

Tell me where the money is suddenly coming from and will that guarantee safety as much as absolutely no assault weapons around anywhere?

If guns make safety, how was it that in 1981 an assailant wounded four with six shots while nearly everyone present was not only armed, but expert marksmen and proficient with guns? Ronald Reagan was surrounded by an armed cadre. He was wounded. James Brady was surrounded by and armed cadre. He too was wounded. Thomas Delahanty was wounded. He was a District of Columbia police officer. Timothy MCarthy was wounded. He was a Secret Service agent.

And a teacher's aide, responsible for the lives of children, should have quicker reactions, better discipline, more experience and training than the United States Secret Service and the District of Columbia Police Force?

The volunteer guardians would provid etheir own weap[ons and pay for their own training, most of whom would have aleady had it if they are concealed carry license holders.

Anyway, not too bad for a liberal!

Keep it coming! That was fun!

If corporations protect their facilities with professional security forces, if oil refineries and nuclear power plants are guarded by trained, competent security, why would you settle for unvetted volunteers with their own weapons (and what standards do we hold for those weapons?) guarding the most precious assets around, our children?

Does a concealed carry permit assure the mental stability of the bearer? The competence? The proficiency needed to carry guns around kids?

Think about it, and take another swing.

 

[saveliberty]

Nosmo King won't be happy until all the guns are gone and Nosmo's dull wit is the sharpest weapon on Earth. Prevention is one of the best defenses available. In some cases the attacker won't choose the school as a target to begin with, knowing there are people defending it.

The argument that everything must be perfect or the risk too great is painfully stupid.

 

[Nosmo King]

Nosmo King won't be happy until all the guns are gone and Nosmo's dull wit is the sharpest weapon on Earth. Prevention is one of the best defenses available. In some cases the attacker won't choose the school as a target to begin with, knowing there are people defending it.

The argument that everything must be perfect or the risk too great is painfully stupid.

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are what you are, a creep who has no civic virtue, no real sense of the American narrative, a mere wannabee libertarian gangster.

You are what you are: not much.

You have no influence at all.

You simply are hot air here letting out your rage.

And you have no civic virtue whatsoever.

Nosmo King has rhetorically bent you over backwards and stuck your head up your ass, so you can feel it as she metaphorically kicks your balls into your bowels.

You are simply no match for your betters on this Board.

Fuck off Starkey, you ass hole creep.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nosmo King won't be happy until all the guns are gone and Nosmo's dull wit is the sharpest weapon on Earth. Prevention is one of the best defenses available. In some cases the attacker won't choose the school as a target to begin with, knowing there are people defending it.

The argument that everything must be perfect or the risk too great is painfully stupid.

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

Police agree? Some might most don't

 

[JakeStarkey]

Most police disagree with your position, bigrebnc, on guns in society.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are what you are, a creep who has no civic virtue, no real sense of the American narrative, a mere wannabee libertarian gangster.

You are what you are: not much.

You have no influence at all.

You simply are hot air here letting out your rage.

And you have no civic virtue whatsoever.

Nosmo King has rhetorically bent you over backwards and stuck your head up your ass, so you can feel it as she metaphorically kicks your balls into your bowels.

You are simply no match for your betters on this Board.

Fuck off Starkey, you ass hole creep.

It's hard for a person to dictate what someone is and is not when you don't even know what it is you are talking about.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Nosmo King won't be happy until all the guns are gone and Nosmo's dull wit is the sharpest weapon on Earth. Prevention is one of the best defenses available. In some cases the attacker won't choose the school as a target to begin with, knowing there are people defending it.

The argument that everything must be perfect or the risk too great is painfully stupid.

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

That explains all the shootings at gun stores and conventions.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Most police disagree with your position, bigrebnc, on guns in society.

I've told you many many times that you do not know what you are talking about.

 

[saveliberty]

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

Guns do not discharge on their own. The shooter is always at fault.

Many a police officer has taken comfort in rural areas when the farmer or rancher shows as back up. The rest are basically ambassors of liberal thought.

As to liability, schools have liability when they don't adequately protect students too. Your gun free zones are total failures in protecting students or staff. Schools should be sued for acting that irresponsibly. Liberals who deflect form the problem of mental health in our society are the problem.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A person can be judged by his or her words, and so many of you, bigrebnc, have been weight and found wanting in the balance.

You are what you are, a creep who has no civic virtue, no real sense of the American narrative, a mere wannabee libertarian gangster.

You are what you are: not much.

Fuck off Starkey, you ass hole creep.

It's hard for a person to dictate what someone is and is not when you don't even know what it is you are talking about.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The entire board membership knows not to take anything you say as truth in any way, shape, or form.

You are what you are: an unAmerican individual lacking civic virtue who wants to do away with electoral and constitutional process.

Most police disagree with your position, bigrebnc, on guns in society.

I've told you many many times that you do not know what you are talking about.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The shooter is always at fault, no one has said anything differently.

However, the weapon he uses has far greater potential for mass murder than a shovel, or a knife, or an auto.

I may rethink the latter when you are able to get a vehicle through the front doors and down the halls of a school.

The guns are the problem. The massive number of guns awash on our streets are the problem. Police, public health, social services, educators agree. The only ones who seek an answer to the blight of shootings is to add more guns are the folks who really have not thought about all the consequences.

And if we're seriously considering putting a gun in every school, shouldn't there be a responsible and through discussion about it first? No one speaks to the liability schools would face. No one has spoken to the qualifications needed for school guards, other than volunteers carrying their own guns to school. I haven't heard a syllable of responsible forethought that would make reasonable people sign on to a plan that throws guns at a gun problem.

Guns do not discharge on their own. The shooter is always at fault.

Many a police officer has taken comfort in rural areas when the farmer or rancher shows as back up. The rest are basically ambassors of liberal thought.

As to liability, schools have liability when they don't adequately protect students too. Your gun free zones are total failures in protecting students or staff. Schools should be sued for acting that irresponsibly. Liberals who deflect form the problem of mental health in our society are the problem.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The entire board membership knows not to take anything you say as truth in any way, shape, or form.

You are what you are: an unAmerican individual lacking civic virtue who wants to do away with electoral and constitutional process.

Most police disagree with your position, bigrebnc, on guns in society.

I've told you many many times that you do not know what you are talking about.

Thing is when I say it about you. You give supportive evidence that what I say is true. Anyone can read a post can see that.