Elizabeth Warren Fights Back Against the "Magical Accounting" of Trickle-Down Economics

[rightwinger]

Tax cuts do not have to be paid for as they do not cost the taxpayer anything.

UNLESS you cut spending, they sure as fukkk should be offset!!!!!

Of course 33 years of Reaganomics/Bushanomics where 90%+ of the debt can be traced back to their POLICIES, doesn't matter right?

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Government poses a financial burden on the people.

If you can't see that then you are naive to the point of retardation.

I have been saying all along that government is necessary haven't I?

There are many things in life that are necessary. Just because something in necessary does not mean it is inherently good.

Government isn't necessary. We have lived with it for so long that we have deluded ourselves. Of course, that's just what the government criminals want.

As the board anarchist chimes in

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tax cuts do not have to be paid for as they do not cost the taxpayer anything.

UNLESS you cut spending, they sure as fukkk should be offset!!!!!

Of course 33 years of Reaganomics/Bushanomics where 90%+ of the debt can be traced back to their POLICIES, doesn't matter right?

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Government poses a financial burden on the people.

If you can't see that then you are naive to the point of retardation.

I have been saying all along that government is necessary haven't I?

There are many things in life that are necessary. Just because something in necessary does not mean it is inherently good.

Of course contributing to the society from which you benefit is a burden. No society can function without a government and ours is the best on the planet

So it's the best necessary evil.

That said government should still be treated as a dangerous entity and be kept under extremely tight controls and run at a bare minimum of cost to the citizenry.

We do not exercise that caution and we should.

 

[rightwinger]

UNLESS you cut spending, they sure as fukkk should be offset!!!!!

Of course 33 years of Reaganomics/Bushanomics where 90%+ of the debt can be traced back to their POLICIES, doesn't matter right?

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

 

[bripat9643]

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

 

[rightwinger]

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

 

[Stephanie]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You notice how they paint these Democrats as if they're superman/superwoman. Leaping off a tall building to FIGHT some imaginary stuff they pull out their ass.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You have to remember the Low Information Quality of the Dem base, they think Bush has been President the past 6 years

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

None of that is free

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

None of that is free

And?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean there are no private security, firemen, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists or economists?

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

None of that is free

And?

Hows that free policing working out in Detroit

 

[rightwinger]

There sure are
Yet we as a society have chosen to have our own police, fire, schools rather than hire a for profit company
Government needs its own qualified engineers, scientists, economists, accountants and lawyers to represent the people's interests

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

None of that is free

And?

Hows that free policing working out in Detroit

You mean that city that the Capitalists used up and abandoned?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The fact that our government made that decision doesn't mean that individual citizens would choose to hire them. None of us would given the opportunity to make another choice.

We the people have repeatedly chosen to support free schools, police and fire as well as other government services

None of that is free

And?

Hows that free policing working out in Detroit

You mean that city that the Capitalists used up and abandoned?

You mean that city that the Democrats and the Union used up and abandoned?

 

[Stephanie]

As I said government is a necessary evil. It is necessary but it should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform its enumerated functions at a bare minimum of cost so as not to burden the people.

And I said government employees do not add to the bottom line they reduce it.

How?

Really?

You can't figure out that taking X dollars from the private sector and then paying government workers less than X dollars results in a lower bottom line?

More money is taken from the private sector than is put back by government employees

Government employees provide functions that are essential for society to function. Things like keeping the WWII memorial open

You mean the one thing Obama insisted on closing during the so-called "government shut down?"

You mean when Ted Cruz shutdown government and was responsible for all of it. Then he tried to blame Obama just like all the other Republicans did.

As I said government is a necessary evil. It is necessary but it should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform its enumerated functions at a bare minimum of cost so as not to burden the people.

And I said government employees do not add to the bottom line they reduce it.

How?

Really?

You can't figure out that taking X dollars from the private sector and then paying government workers less than X dollars results in a lower bottom line?

More money is taken from the private sector than is put back by government employees

Government employees provide functions that are essential for society to function. Things like keeping the WWII memorial open

You mean the one thing Obama insisted on closing during the so-called "government shut down?"

You mean when Ted Cruz shutdown government and was responsible for all of it. Then he tried to blame Obama just like all the other Republicans did.

Sorry that isn't going to fly anymore. IF the people believed that they would have kept Democrats in the Senate and given them back the House. get a clue and stop with the lies. OBAMA shut down the government because he was acting his usual "thug" self.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In any event, Lizzy Cheekbones economic ideas come with a time tested 100% Guaranteed Fail.


But that's what Dems want and thrive on: Failure and misery

 

[rightwinger]

How?

Really?

You can't figure out that taking X dollars from the private sector and then paying government workers less than X dollars results in a lower bottom line?

More money is taken from the private sector than is put back by government employees

Government employees provide functions that are essential for society to function. Things like keeping the WWII memorial open

You mean the one thing Obama insisted on closing during the so-called "government shut down?"

You mean when Ted Cruz shutdown government and was responsible for all of it. Then he tried to blame Obama just like all the other Republicans did.

How?

Really?

You can't figure out that taking X dollars from the private sector and then paying government workers less than X dollars results in a lower bottom line?

More money is taken from the private sector than is put back by government employees

Government employees provide functions that are essential for society to function. Things like keeping the WWII memorial open

You mean the one thing Obama insisted on closing during the so-called "government shut down?"

You mean when Ted Cruz shutdown government and was responsible for all of it. Then he tried to blame Obama just like all the other Republicans did.

Sorry that isn't going to fly anymore. IF the people believed that they would have kept Democrats in the Senate and given them back the House. get a clue and stop with the lies. OBAMA shut down the government because he was acting his usual "thug" self.

Even Boehner admitted they blew it when they shut down Government. Remember when Boehner begged Obama to save him from the GOP Obamacare temper tantrum?

 

[Stephanie]

In any event, Lizzy Cheekbones economic ideas come with a time tested 100% Guaranteed Fail.


But that's what Dems want and thrive on: Failure and misery

Yep, they want us ALL POOR so we can all be EQUAL according to people like her and that progressive/Democrat party. When they accomplish that we then start calling them, our Dear MASTERS

 

[rightwinger]

In any event, Lizzy Cheekbones economic ideas come with a time tested 100% Guaranteed Fail.


But that's what Dems want and thrive on: Failure and misery

As opposed to 35 years of Supply Side fail?

 

[The Rabbi]

Tax cuts do not have to be paid for as they do not cost the taxpayer anything.

UNLESS you cut spending, they sure as fukkk should be offset!!!!!

Of course 33 years of Reaganomics/Bushanomics where 90%+ of the debt can be traced back to their POLICIES, doesn't matter right?

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

Police, firemen, teachers last I checked were employed by municipalities, not the federal government.
Doctors are employed by hospitals or physician groups, not the government
Engineers are employed by corporations.
Economicsts are employed by banks, brokerage houses, and universities.

Bureaucrats assessing your raisin crop are employed by the federal government
Bureaucrats issuing licenses so people can build on their own property are employed by the federal government
Bureaucrats handing out grants to study Chinese prostitutes' alcoholism are employed by the federal gov't.
Remind me why we need about 70% of the federal govt?

 

[The Rabbi]

In any event, Lizzy Cheekbones economic ideas come with a time tested 100% Guaranteed Fail.


But that's what Dems want and thrive on: Failure and misery

As opposed to 35 years of Supply Side fail?

Exceot there hasnt been 35 years of supply side fail.
There was 8 years of supply side success until Bush I renegged o his no new taxes pledge.
There was 7 years of sort of supply side success when W Bush ended the Clinton Recession.
There have been 8 years of Keynesian failure as the Democrats took over govenment and we've seen the worst recovery from a recession on record.

 

[rightwinger]

UNLESS you cut spending, they sure as fukkk should be offset!!!!!

Of course 33 years of Reaganomics/Bushanomics where 90%+ of the debt can be traced back to their POLICIES, doesn't matter right?

Tax cuts do not cost anything there is no unless, no buts.

Government spending is what costs money. Hence government should be tightly controlled and only big enough to perform it's specifically enumerated functions so as to be as little of a burden on the people as possible.

Government provides services to We the People they are not a burden but an essential element of society

Nobody wants the so-called "services" government provides. Being fined thousands of dollars for filling in a pond on my land is not a service. Government is a burden. It definitely isn't "essential" by any stretch of the imagination.

Interesting.......police, fire, teachers, doctors, engineers, scientists, economists

Nobody wants them except for nutbat libertarians

Police, firemen, teachers last I checked were employed by municipalities, not the federal government.
Doctors are employed by hospitals or physician groups, not the government
Engineers are employed by corporations.
Economicsts are employed by banks, brokerage houses, and universities.

Bureaucrats assessing your raisin crop are employed by the federal government
Bureaucrats issuing licenses so people can build on their own property are employed by the federal government
Bureaucrats handing out grants to study Chinese prostitutes' alcoholism are employed by the federal gov't.
Remind me why we need about 70% of the federal govt?

It always amuses me when Conservatives think local and state are not government. Only the federal level is somehow "evil"

Government is still government. It still comes out of our pockets

We just perform government functions at the level that is most efficient. Sometimes it's local, sometimes national