Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results point to Native American heritage

[tinydancer]

I do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.

Can you point out when that happened?

She claimed A

Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law - The Boston Globe

 

[OldLady]

Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.

Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2

Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada

Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership

Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership

Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)

Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership

Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians

Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership

Kaw Nation

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation


SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment

Why are you claiming that she ever said she had enough Native American blood to have a membership in a tribe, when SHE NEVER CLAIMED SUCH?

Huh?

Then why did she have to prove it? And it's fucking laughable, you and I probably have the same amount of Indian blood.

She proved it because the right wing has been screaming for her to take the test and prove it for a few years now. And because Trump promised to give a million dollars to charity if she tested and was found to have Native blood.
Ha ha. Now he's trying to squirm out of the deal. He probably hasn't got a million dollars left anymore.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.

Funny story, we got back 144 acres of prime Virginia land through Revolutionary War land grants with a spring and a beautiful river running through it that the white man took from us originally. lol. My grandmother, who was darned near full Cherokee, lived on that land til the day she died.

Reason for the land grant was because I also share the name and blood of a major founder and General in the Revolutionary War. But, it's kind of neat how what goes around sometimes comes back around.

 

[justoffal]

Dimms just admit it, she lied to get preferential treatment. It’s not the end of the world.

Elizabeth Warren acknowledges telling Harvard, Penn of Native American status

You are correct... She masqueraded as something that she never was. Perhaps it was a misconception in her own mind.
Results of the DNA test demonstrate that she has nothing more than the average amount of genetic Mix that the other 360 million Americans living in North America have. So either she has purposely misled others to think that she was something she never was or she foolishly assumed that she could reach back into her genetic history and cherry pick an identity from numerous sets of genes present there.

Elizabeth Warren acknowledges telling Harvard, Penn of Native American status

 

[tinydancer]

More on Pocahontas. Ain't this a Hoot!
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It Gets Better… Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren

It Gets Better... Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren
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But, to be honest, this Bat-Shit Crazy Bitch doesn't deserve the time being spent to ridicule her.

She could NOT get elected to anything more than Dog Catcher outside of LoonLands like Massachusetts----might have a chance in Shitholia (Connecticut).

Wouldn't .098% be if she was only 1/1024th NA, instead of 1/32?
They're playing math tricks on ya, Macaulay.

Bottom line is that she is not First Nations as defined by quantum blood level.

 

[Cosmos]

Liar.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.

Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2

Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada

Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership

Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership

Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)

Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership

Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians

Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership

Kaw Nation

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation


SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment

Why are you claiming that she ever said she had enough Native American blood to have a membership in a tribe, when SHE NEVER CLAIMED SUCH?

Huh?

Then why did she have to prove it? And it's fucking laughable, you and I probably have the same amount of Indian blood.

She proved it because the right wing has been screaming for her to take the test and prove it for a few years now. And because Trump promised to give a million dollars to charity if she tested and was found to have Native blood.
Ha ha. Now he's trying to squirm out of the deal. He probably hasn't got a million dollars left anymore.

She didn't prove anything yet to say everyone on the planet has the same DNA and related to each other if you go back far enough.


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[jknowgood]

Heck i probably got negro in me, than she has indian in her. Can i use affirmitive action?

No. And she didn't.

Yes she did.

 

[Windparadox]

Bottom line is that she is not First Nations as defined by quantum blood level.

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Warren never claimed she was, which makes the OP redundant.

 

[Cosmos]

At best this test says she may have had an ancestor who raped a Native American woman in the 18th or 19th century. It's not even close to proving her grandmother was a Cherokee from Eastern Oklahoma. Warren is a liar.

BOpe,. You are just an ignorant POS. She said that her grandmother had Native American blood, not that she was a Native American

You people are the dumbest fucking assholes on the planet.

No. You're the dumbest fucking idiot on the forum.

 

[xyz]

I'll help you, now for Trump's DNA??

Warren releases DNA results showing she has Native American heritage

Is it enough for her to join a tribe?

Does it matter?

Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.

I believe Trump calling her "Pocahontas" was insulting to Native Americans no matter if she is able to join a tribe or not.

Really? I think her claiming to be indian to get a minority job, stopping a real minority from getting it. Would be far more insulting than calling her a name. Tell me, are you outraged about the name washinton redskins?

She didn't apply for a job using that status, she applied for a college, which she didn't attend.

On the other hand, Republican Kevin McCarthy's family got $7,000,000 in contracts claiming Cherokee heritage:
Republican Kevin McCarthy’s Family Awarded $7M In Military Contracts By Falsely Claiming Cherokee Heritage - Sportsvall International

 

[jknowgood]

Is it enough for her to join a tribe?

Does it matter?

Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.

I believe Trump calling her "Pocahontas" was insulting to Native Americans no matter if she is able to join a tribe or not.

Really? I think her claiming to be indian to get a minority job, stopping a real minority from getting it. Would be far more insulting than calling her a name. Tell me, are you outraged about the name washinton redskins?

She didn't apply for a job using that status, she applied for a college, which she didn't attend.

On the other hand, Republican Kevin McCarthy's family got a $7,000,000 contract claiming Cherokee heritage:
Republican Kevin McCarthy’s Family Awarded $7M In Military Contracts By Falsely Claiming Cherokee Heritage - Sportsvall International

If true, what can be done?

 

[boedicca]

Is it enough for her to join a tribe?

Does it matter?

Ask a native american, i believe it does. Lol, liberals cannot do anything right. You elected a negro that was half white.

I believe Trump calling her "Pocahontas" was insulting to Native Americans no matter if she is able to join a tribe or not.

Really? I think her claiming to be indian to get a minority job, stopping a real minority from getting it. Would be far more insulting than calling her a name. Tell me, are you outraged about the name washinton redskins?

She didn't apply for a job using that status, she applied for a college, which she didn't attend.

On the other hand, Republican Kevin McCarthy's family got a $7,000,000 contract claiming Cherokee heritage:
Republican Kevin McCarthy’s Family Awarded $7M In Military Contracts By Falsely Claiming Cherokee Heritage - Sportsvall International

That's a rather specious smear. The company belongs to his in-laws; he is not part of it.

Try again.

 

[rightwinger]

More on Pocahontas. Ain't this a Hoot!
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It Gets Better… Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren

It Gets Better... Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren
______________________________

But, to be honest, this Bat-Shit Crazy Bitch doesn't deserve the time being spent to ridicule her.

She could NOT get elected to anything more than Dog Catcher outside of LoonLands like Massachusetts----might have a chance in Shitholia (Connecticut).

Wouldn't .098% be if she was only 1/1024th NA, instead of 1/32?
They're playing math tricks on ya, Macaulay.

Bottom line is that she is not First Nations as defined by quantum blood level.

She never claimed she was
She just said family heritage reported a great, great grandmother was

 

[bodecea]

Oh look, there's only ONE tribe that Warren could even REMOTELY stand a chance at joining, assuming she was 1/32nd Native... which they don't know.

Tribes that hold their Blood Quantum at 1/2

Kialegee Tribal Town
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
White Mountain Apache Tribe, of Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, of Nevada

Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum (equal to one grandparent) for membership

Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, of Washington
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, of Montana
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, of Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, of Arizona
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, of Kansas
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, of Wyoming
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, of Oklahoma
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, of California
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, of Arizona
Blackfeet Tribe, of Montana

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-grandparent) for membership

Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Comanche Nation, of Oklahoma
Delaware Nation, of Oklahoma
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, of Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, of Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah "Washakie"
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Ponca Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac and Fox Nation, of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, of Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, of Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)

Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum (equal to one great-great-grandparent) for membership

Caddo Nation
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, of California
Fort Sill Apache Tribe
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, of North Carolina
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians

Tribes requiring 1/32 degree blood quantum for membership

Kaw Nation

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent, Members must be direct descendants of original enrollees.

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Cherokee Nation
Chickasaw Nation
Choctaw Nation
Citizen Potawatomi Nation
Delaware Tribe of Indians
Eastern Shawnee Tribe
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe
Muscogee Creek Nation
Osage Nation
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Peoria Tribe of Indians
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe
Wyandotte Nation


SOURCE: Blood Quantum Native American Indian Tribal Enrollment

How is that a "fail"?

 

[Penelope]

Elizabeth Warren doesn't need to take a DNA test. Here's why...

"Those who continue to insist Warren take a DNA test to "settle the issue" are not taking a pro-Indian position either. DNA doesn't define who is or is not an Indian. Only tribes can do that. To say anything else, including DNA, determines who is or is not Indian is a political attack on tribal sovereignty. The three Cherokee Indian nations who have government to government relationships with the United States have said Warren is not Cherokee. That should have been the end of it. Unfortunately it wasn't.

The genealogy of Warren has been done and shows no indication of Cherokee, Delaware, or any other Indian nation ancestry. The genealogy along with the fact no legitimate Indian nation claims her should have been the end of it. Unfortunately it wasn't."

She is not looking to become a member.
Tribal Enrollment Process
How Much Percentage of Native American Do You Have To Be To Enroll With a Tribe - PowWows.com - Native American Pow Wows

 

[tinydancer]

I do understand that many have a romantic notion of having some First Nations lineage and but when one uses a falsehood to receive a grant or a position thereby denying those to a true First Nations person, in my mind that is theft.

Funny story, we got back 144 acres of prime Virginia land through Revolutionary War land grants with a spring and a beautiful river running through it that the white man took from us originally. lol. My grandmother, who was darned near full Cherokee, lived on that land til the day she died.

As it should be. I've had the blessing and the privilege in my life to have worked with on so many issues and been friends with many First Nations. I'm in Metis land now. We actually named our February holiday after Louis Riel.

I understand the romanticism of being of First Nations descent I'm clued into that, but it is so wrong like a Ward Churchill to benefit the way he did. I flipped on the artwork. I was so mad I was shaking a fist at the moon some nights on what a mockery Ward was. deer season was over so I didn't run off any beastie

 

[satrebil]

She proved it because the right wing has been screaming for her to take the test and prove it for a few years now. And because Trump promised to give a million dollars to charity if she tested and was found to have Native blood.
Ha ha. Now he's trying to squirm out of the deal. He probably hasn't got a million dollars left anymore.

All she proved is that she's a goddamn mutt like everyone else. I've got Native blood as well, doesn't mean I pass myself off as one.

 

[tinydancer]

More on Pocahontas. Ain't this a Hoot!
_______

It Gets Better… Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren

It Gets Better... Average White Person in America Has DOUBLE THE AMOUNT of Native American DNA as Elizabeth Warren
______________________________

But, to be honest, this Bat-Shit Crazy Bitch doesn't deserve the time being spent to ridicule her.

She could NOT get elected to anything more than Dog Catcher outside of LoonLands like Massachusetts----might have a chance in Shitholia (Connecticut).

Wouldn't .098% be if she was only 1/1024th NA, instead of 1/32?
They're playing math tricks on ya, Macaulay.

Bottom line is that she is not First Nations as defined by quantum blood level.

She never claimed she was
She just said family heritage reported a great, great grandmother was

She claimed A on the one link I provided. She also has claimed her parents eloped because her mother was Cherokee.

 

[Sunsettommy]

ALL of Elizabeth Warrens past family members were ALWAYS listed as White on the Census record, it is clear she is full of baloney and lies.

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1

"For a few weeks, it has been pretty big news that US Senate hopeful from Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren, has claimed to be Native American, Cherokee to be specific, in the past and she is still clinging to that story now. Several times, I have either read or heard her compared to the Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker, because some give her the benefit of the doubt and say Warren might have the same blood quantum as Baker. IF, and I capitalized that on purpose, because we are talking "big if" here, she actually had a Cherokee ancestor, and IF it was the ancestor she claims through, that might be true, but it isn't.

I think there must be a lot of people who either don't understand genealogy and the records available or there are a lot of people who haven't had the time to look. Whatever the reason, it seems people need to see for themselves that Warren's ancestry shows NO indication of Cherokee ancestry or heritage.

Because she has been compared to Chief Baker so much, I thought I would compare their genealogies and show how we can clearly see a difference between a real Cherokee and a fake one."

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 2

"We continue comparing Elizabeth Warren's ancestry with that of Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker. The pattern continues to clearly show the difference in how a white family is found in the records compared to how an Indian family is listed."