Evaluating Donald Trump's Claim That The 2020 Election Was Stolen From Him

[busybee01]

You are lying and sound like a fool.

You are the liar and traitor.

 

[Flopper]

To prove Trump is "lying", you must prove he knows his claim is false.
A bunch of judges who rule in mosthis side does not have standing to sue is not proof on the merits.
Judges who disqualify his suit on procedural errors proves nothing about the truth.

In most of those cases Trump’s claims were dismissed because he didn’t submit any evidence to support his claims. In one of the cases everything Trump submitted as proof were conjectures and claims about what could happen. When the judge asked for evidence he got more examples of what could happen. Finally the judge got so discussed he slammed the gavel and walked out. This had to be humiliating for Trump’s lawyers’ standing there and making fools of themselves case after case.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

interfere

to enter into or take a part in the concerns of others

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

Influence does not equate to interference.. you're only making that case for this specific instance. As I've stated earlier, the US attempts to influence other nations all the time. Are they "interfering"? No.

When your argument is based around "People are exposed to the wrong things, so they'll think wrong"... you know you're an authoritarian leftist.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Don't you remember? It started with a phishing scam against John Podesta. As a password, he used the word "password". Once into his system they were able to access Clinton and the entire DNC. You remember that??

Shhh, we're not supposed to talk about things Democrats regularly have done in even recent history so that they can be angry at Trump for doing the very same things.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Interfere - no. Participate in - yes - as do any number of citizens on both sides of the aisle.

So then Russia didn't "interfere" other. They made a pathetic attempt to influence the election by making minimal Facebook Ads and memes... that's it. Oh my, such a massive issue!

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Hillary wasn't easy to hack. They didn't hack Hillary's server. The Hillary emails that WikiLeaks posted were obtained under a perfectly legal FOI Application. The FBI reported that their investigation of the server showed several attempts to hack it, but none succeeded.

It was the DNC that was hacked.

And that's their own fault, and said hack revealed tons of corruption, especially between the media state and the Democrats. Meanwhile, despite the DNC not being a part of the US gov't, Obama sent the dogs of war of gov't resources to go find who dared to reveal their corruption. How dare you reveal what we say behind the taxpayers backs! We'll use their money to come get you for attacking our private organization!

Why don't you ever answer for what was found in the hack?

 

[Lastamender]

LOL

Hyperbole??

Russians didn't take that as hyperbole. Right after Trump said that, they tried hacking into Hillary's email server. They took his words seriously.

Do the Russians have the server? First, they did not hack, second the server was never found.

 

[Lastamender]

You are the liar and traitor.

Projection, you are both.

 

[lennypartiv]

Trump has provided no evidence that the election was stolen.

Watch 2000 Mules.

 

[surada]

Disinformation campaigns exist by both foreign and domestic entities, to single one out and then claim its “not fair” is foolish.

Meanwhile, the DNC getting hacked was their problem and fault. If you can prove Trump ordered it, you’d have a point. But, you can’t. I’m guessing the Russians tried to hack the RNC too but they probably had better safe guards.

Meanwhile, the corruption exposed by the DNC hack stands. No amount of conspiracies about why it happened can deny it. And, hacking the DNC isn’t interfering with the voting process at all.

Nobody can give a single example of Russia interfering with our elections. Just reciting propaganda on autopilot

Remember when Obama deported a bunch of Russians?

 

[Care4all]

The problem was Trump and his campaign taking with open arms the Russian misinformation and propaganda and STOLEN private emails of the DNC and Podesta that the Russians hacked, and using them in his own Trump Campaign.

That was un American, and encouraged Foreign enemies to interfere in our presidential elections, and basically what Trump did was tell these foreign countries that he welcomed their help, as long as it was to help him....surely he wouldn't if it were to help his opponent, but to steal emails from an opponent that could help him, was fine.


Right then, Trump showed he was not Presidential material imho. He did NOT put Country first.

He put TRUMP first.

 

[surada]

Republicans can't lose elections anymore.

They either win . . . or they were cheated.

I know. Sad. This means democracy fails. Putin and Trump are thrilled.

 

[EMH]

The problem was Trump and his campaign taking with open arms the Russian misinformation and propaganda and STOLEN private emails of the DNC and Podesta that the Russians hacked, and using them in his own Trump Campaign.

That was un American, and encouraged Foreign enemies to interfere in our presidential elections, and basically what Trump did was tell these foreign countries that he welcomed their help, as long as it was to help him....surely he wouldn't if it were to help his opponent, but to steal emails from an opponent that could help him, was fine.


Right then, Trump showed he was not Presidential material imho. He did NOT put Country first.

He put TRUMP first.

Translation


Democrats lying and cheating = good

Democrats caught lying and cheating = bad

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Remember when Obama deported a bunch of Russians?

?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

That was un American, and encouraged Foreign enemies to interfere in our presidential elections,

How did they interfere?

 

[scruffy]

If what happens again? If you have honest and fair elections again, people need to die?

It is incumbent on Democrats to reassure the rest of us that elections are fair.

So far they haven't done that. In fact, they've done exactly the opposite.

All of the election scrutineers and oversight groups said it was honest and fair.

In the very limited and narrow part of the process they could see.

The election process requires security expertise, not laymanship.

What you're saying is that unless your side wins, there will be violence, just like last time.

If Biden gets 81 million votes again, yeah maybe.

(Watch, now she'll say "Biden's not running, doofus"). lol

 

[Care4all]

How did they interfere?

In just one situation, the Russians interfered by stealing emails of one presidential candidate and political party, and handing them over to the candidate they wanted to win in our presidential election, and that candidate willfully accepting this foreign enemy help to use against their opponent and their party.


Are you actually trying to claim this was good? All above board? Not in anyway, un American? Not disturbing at all?

 

[surada]

?

He deported 35 Russians and closed their compounds right after the election.

 

[scruffy]

In just one situation, the Russians interfered by stealing emails of one presidential candidate and political party, and handing them over to the candidate they wanted to win in our presidential election, and that candidate willfully accepting this foreign enemy help to use against their opponent and their party.


Are you actually trying to claim this was good? All above board? Not in anyway, un American? Not disturbing at all?

You've been brainwashed.

Look here - you're on a Russia trip. Why is that?

EVERYONE (and their brother) does this. The Iranians do it, the Koreans do it, the Arabs do it, the Israelis do it - why are you picking on the Russians?

I'll tell you why.

It's because Russia is the only one the lying MSM told you about.

Those fuckers LIE - by omission mostly. They're not giving you a true or accurate picture.

They're only giving you sound bites so you'll get upset about Russia Russia Russia

 

[surada]

It is incumbent on Democrats to reassure the rest of us that elections are fair.

So far they haven't done that. In fact, they've done exactly the opposite.



In the very limited and narrow part of the process they could see.

The election process requires security expertise, not laymanship.




If Biden gets 81 million votes again, yeah maybe.

(Watch, now she'll say "Biden's not running, doofus"). lol

Voting in the midterms is breaking all records so far.