“Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked.”

I would question it too.

But there’s still no evidence of any crime.
Trump asked for an investigation to gauge if there was. That’s all and he was impeached. There is certainly enough smoke to gauge if there is a fire.

No. There is not enough smoke. That’s why he didn’t go through legitimate routes to get his investigation.


That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
 
None of your business unless you have a good enough reason to demand such an invasion of privacy.


LMFAO!!!


NEW USMB DEFINITION ALERT!!!!

"invasion of privacy"

Investigating Democrats stealing from the American taxpayer is now defined as "an invasion of privacy."


LOL!!!!


And whether Hunter Biden received $16 million in KICKBACK from a US foreign aid package is

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS


because all Democrats STEAL and all Democrats voters support Democrats stealing....
Well yeah. Investigating someone requires you to violate their privacy.
 
I would question it too.

But there’s still no evidence of any crime.
Trump asked for an investigation to gauge if there was. That’s all and he was impeached. There is certainly enough smoke to gauge if there is a fire.

No. There is not enough smoke. That’s why he didn’t go through legitimate routes to get his investigation.


That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
Barr’s spokesman told us. No one wants anything to do with this “drug deal”.
 
Trump asked for an investigation to gauge if there was. That’s all and he was impeached. There is certainly enough smoke to gauge if there is a fire.

No. There is not enough smoke. That’s why he didn’t go through legitimate routes to get his investigation.


That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
Barr’s spokesman told us. No one wants anything to do with this “drug deal”.


Hmmmm....I don't see a citation in this claim, so I have to conclude you made it up.
 
Democrats are CAUGHT STEALING every time they are investigated for stealing.

That's why Democrats are so very opposed to INVESTIGATING Democrats for stealing....
 
No. There is not enough smoke. That’s why he didn’t go through legitimate routes to get his investigation.


That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
Barr’s spokesman told us. No one wants anything to do with this “drug deal”.


Hmmmm....I don't see a citation in this claim, so I have to conclude you made it up.

You never asked for a citation. Ask and ye shall receive.

Justice Department: Trump never asked Barr to talk to Ukraine

You assumed I was speculating. You were incorrect.
 
“He got it because of his name”

Case closed. Poor Little Leftist. Want me to source biased right leaning sources? No. STFU. You lost. Game over. Lie to someone else. You don’t even know what AGI is.
He got it because of his name.

Great. What case is closed? Getting a job because of your name isn’t illegal and it’s rather common.

Personally, I’d settle for any sources but you don’t really have a habit of providing any. If you did provide a right leaning source, all the better because it’s usually trivially easy to point out where they screwed up.

You’re a liar.
I ll Dumb it down for you.


Biden brags about holding $1bn. Hunter gets a job paying him $50k per month because of his daddy’s name. Trump asks the new President to please investigate what happened and says “help us”. “Our country has been through a lot”.

Democrats impeach over that.

You then admitted Trump would win anyway in 2020. So why am I wasting my time with a Leftist Liar like you? Here is your biased link. You lost this debate. You’re a loser.

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show


The one from the Hill is most damning. Ouch.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

You don’t need to dumb it down for me. I know what you all are alleging. The problem is, there’s no evidence for it.

For starters, Biden’s explanation that Shokin was fired for corruption makes sense. It’s consistent with what everyone in the decision making process has been claiming all along. The only one claiming anything different is the guy that was fired because he was corrupt. If that’s your sole source, then admit it but be aware that his credibility is quite poor. There is no evidence connecting Hunter Biden to policy set at the State Department.

Now, if Joe Biden showed up in Ukraine and decided unilaterally that Shokin needs to be fired and demanded that everyone go along with his decision, you’d have a different matter on your hands. The problem is; that’s the exact opposite of what happened. The push to fire Shokin originated from the embassy staff in Ukraine, not Biden.

John Solomon’s story doesn’t really corroborate your allegation either. None of these memos he’s touting have any evidence that anyone in Burisma was pushing for Shokin to be fired.
I did that because it encapsulates what DJT believed. What he asked for was for an investigation. If that investigation shows zippo then he looks bad. DJT didn’t ask for Zelensky to make up information LOL.

Doesn’t matter what he finds. Just announcing the investigation is intended to harm Biden. That’s why it was important to have a public announcement. Furthermore, involving his personal attorney gives Trump a peek into the investigation where he doesn’t belong. Those two facts alone demonstrate Trump’s corrupt intent.

If Trump were actually concerned about it, an investigation would go through the DoJ. Not through his personal attorney.

In this country, you don’t get to investigate just because you want to. Investigations have to be predicated on credible information (don’t get distracted now, I know you want to take about a different matter here, resist the urge). Trump should not be unilaterally making that decision because he has demonstrated he isn’t basing it on credible information that would constitute an adequate predicate.

Of course it matters. If he finds nothing, DJT looks very bad. What are you talking about. He said to speak with Barr on an open phone call. "Corrupt intent"? LOL

You're crazy. He had credible info. This is 100% subjective. You cannot possibly prove his intent.
 
I would question it too.

But there’s still no evidence of any crime.
Trump asked for an investigation to gauge if there was. That’s all and he was impeached. There is certainly enough smoke to gauge if there is a fire.

No. There is not enough smoke. That’s why he didn’t go through legitimate routes to get his investigation.


That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

You're such a little troll. Why would he mention Barr on the call then? Obviously that was the plan. He is the POTUS. "legitimate" how would you know? You a lawyer and a doctor?
 
That's just a lie....Did you not read the part of the transcript that state that he wanted Z's government to work with Barr?

It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
Barr’s spokesman told us. No one wants anything to do with this “drug deal”.


Hmmmm....I don't see a citation in this claim, so I have to conclude you made it up.

You never asked for a citation. Ask and ye shall receive.

Justice Department: Trump never asked Barr to talk to Ukraine

You assumed I was speculating. You were incorrect.


As of September...However, I will point you to your own article, pay attention to the bolded parts....

"The newly released transcript does not show any explicit quid pro quo, but it does show that Trump brought up how much assistance the United States gives Ukraine and later said he wanted Zelensky to speak with Giuliani and Barr about a possible investigation into the Bidens.

"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great," he said.

Trump urged Ukraine's president to speak to Giuliani.

“I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call,” Trump said.

snip

"The DOJ determined that the call and the surrounding circumstances described in an intelligence community whistleblower complaint did not constitute a campaign finance violation."

Now, you may not like it, but your complaint is a dead issue.
 
Well yeah. Investigating someone requires you to violate their privacy.


Translation = you can NEVER EVER INVESTIGATE DEMOCRATS WHO STEAL FROM THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.... or we will HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Democrats are investigates all the time. But those investigations come from legitimate means. Not political vendettas.

Like the Russia Hoax and the Steele Dossier. LOL

Why did HRC's team smash blackberries and ipads? Nothing to see here....
 
He got it because of his name.

Great. What case is closed? Getting a job because of your name isn’t illegal and it’s rather common.

Personally, I’d settle for any sources but you don’t really have a habit of providing any. If you did provide a right leaning source, all the better because it’s usually trivially easy to point out where they screwed up.

You’re a liar.
I ll Dumb it down for you.


Biden brags about holding $1bn. Hunter gets a job paying him $50k per month because of his daddy’s name. Trump asks the new President to please investigate what happened and says “help us”. “Our country has been through a lot”.

Democrats impeach over that.

You then admitted Trump would win anyway in 2020. So why am I wasting my time with a Leftist Liar like you? Here is your biased link. You lost this debate. You’re a loser.

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show


The one from the Hill is most damning. Ouch.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

You don’t need to dumb it down for me. I know what you all are alleging. The problem is, there’s no evidence for it.

For starters, Biden’s explanation that Shokin was fired for corruption makes sense. It’s consistent with what everyone in the decision making process has been claiming all along. The only one claiming anything different is the guy that was fired because he was corrupt. If that’s your sole source, then admit it but be aware that his credibility is quite poor. There is no evidence connecting Hunter Biden to policy set at the State Department.

Now, if Joe Biden showed up in Ukraine and decided unilaterally that Shokin needs to be fired and demanded that everyone go along with his decision, you’d have a different matter on your hands. The problem is; that’s the exact opposite of what happened. The push to fire Shokin originated from the embassy staff in Ukraine, not Biden.

John Solomon’s story doesn’t really corroborate your allegation either. None of these memos he’s touting have any evidence that anyone in Burisma was pushing for Shokin to be fired.
I did that because it encapsulates what DJT believed. What he asked for was for an investigation. If that investigation shows zippo then he looks bad. DJT didn’t ask for Zelensky to make up information LOL.

Doesn’t matter what he finds. Just announcing the investigation is intended to harm Biden. That’s why it was important to have a public announcement. Furthermore, involving his personal attorney gives Trump a peek into the investigation where he doesn’t belong. Those two facts alone demonstrate Trump’s corrupt intent.

If Trump were actually concerned about it, an investigation would go through the DoJ. Not through his personal attorney.

In this country, you don’t get to investigate just because you want to. Investigations have to be predicated on credible information (don’t get distracted now, I know you want to take about a different matter here, resist the urge). Trump should not be unilaterally making that decision because he has demonstrated he isn’t basing it on credible information that would constitute an adequate predicate.

Of course it matters. If he finds nothing, DJT looks very bad. What are you talking about. He said to speak with Barr on an open phone call. "Corrupt intent"? LOL

You're crazy. He had credible info. This is 100% subjective. You cannot possibly prove his intent.

Ha! DJT will look bad to who exactly? His cult members. No. If they find nothing, it’ll just be the cult complaining of a corrupt judicial process just like they did for Clinton. Facts make little difference. The damage is done.

He never spoke to Barr. There goes the cover story.

You can prove intent. Happens all the time. You can’t prove intent to the cult members, though. You can’t prove anything to them.

Who’s the credible information? Shokin? Not credible. Wouldn’t stand up a second in court. That’s why the DoJ is steering clear.
 
I ll Dumb it down for you.


Biden brags about holding $1bn. Hunter gets a job paying him $50k per month because of his daddy’s name. Trump asks the new President to please investigate what happened and says “help us”. “Our country has been through a lot”.

Democrats impeach over that.

You then admitted Trump would win anyway in 2020. So why am I wasting my time with a Leftist Liar like you? Here is your biased link. You lost this debate. You’re a loser.

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show


The one from the Hill is most damning. Ouch.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

You don’t need to dumb it down for me. I know what you all are alleging. The problem is, there’s no evidence for it.

For starters, Biden’s explanation that Shokin was fired for corruption makes sense. It’s consistent with what everyone in the decision making process has been claiming all along. The only one claiming anything different is the guy that was fired because he was corrupt. If that’s your sole source, then admit it but be aware that his credibility is quite poor. There is no evidence connecting Hunter Biden to policy set at the State Department.

Now, if Joe Biden showed up in Ukraine and decided unilaterally that Shokin needs to be fired and demanded that everyone go along with his decision, you’d have a different matter on your hands. The problem is; that’s the exact opposite of what happened. The push to fire Shokin originated from the embassy staff in Ukraine, not Biden.

John Solomon’s story doesn’t really corroborate your allegation either. None of these memos he’s touting have any evidence that anyone in Burisma was pushing for Shokin to be fired.
I did that because it encapsulates what DJT believed. What he asked for was for an investigation. If that investigation shows zippo then he looks bad. DJT didn’t ask for Zelensky to make up information LOL.

Doesn’t matter what he finds. Just announcing the investigation is intended to harm Biden. That’s why it was important to have a public announcement. Furthermore, involving his personal attorney gives Trump a peek into the investigation where he doesn’t belong. Those two facts alone demonstrate Trump’s corrupt intent.

If Trump were actually concerned about it, an investigation would go through the DoJ. Not through his personal attorney.

In this country, you don’t get to investigate just because you want to. Investigations have to be predicated on credible information (don’t get distracted now, I know you want to take about a different matter here, resist the urge). Trump should not be unilaterally making that decision because he has demonstrated he isn’t basing it on credible information that would constitute an adequate predicate.

Of course it matters. If he finds nothing, DJT looks very bad. What are you talking about. He said to speak with Barr on an open phone call. "Corrupt intent"? LOL

You're crazy. He had credible info. This is 100% subjective. You cannot possibly prove his intent.

Ha! DJT will look bad to who exactly? His cult members. No. If they find nothing, it’ll just be the cult complaining of a corrupt judicial process just like they did for Clinton. Facts make little difference. The damage is done.

He never spoke to Barr. There goes the cover story.

You can prove intent. Happens all the time. You can’t prove intent to the cult members, though. You can’t prove anything to them.

Who’s the credible information? Shokin? Not credible. Wouldn’t stand up a second in court. That’s why the DoJ is steering clear.

Prove his intent then:

#1) Did he want Biden investigated because of what happened in 2016.

#2) Did he want Biden investigated because he was worried about 2020.

Even the best attorneys will tell you it is nearly impossible to prove intent. You an attorney and a doctor now? There is zero chance the Senate convicts. You admitted as such. Youre just posturing now. Little Leftist Troll.
 
IDGAF what other countries think. They also agreed to the Iran deal (stupid) and Europe is so bad, the UK voted for Brexit. Berg is such a little childish dolt.
Clearly, YDGAF about the facts either.
The next fact you post will be your first. Any monkey can cut and paste. Put yourself out there and give an opinion. See how that goes. Here is another fact. Trump will not get convicted. Troll.

It’s entirely possible that Trump won’t be convicted, this time, but he will be impeached again, as long as continues to violate the law and trample the Constitution.

But Trump also won’t be re-elected. He’s done too much damage. The American people are done with him.

LOL, why do you lefty's saying these stupid things? Will you have a heart attack when he is elected? Will you leave the hemisphere?

Trump is poisoning everything he touches. He always has. He’s the most toxic businessman in American history. BILLIONS in businesss losses, 3000 plus law suits. Hundreds of failed businesses.

Trump has always survived on his father’s wealth. Why didn’t conservatives vet this guy and prevent his crooked lying ass from running? The party is supposed to ensure their candidate, at the very least, isn’t a criminal.
 
IDGAF what other countries think. They also agreed to the Iran deal (stupid) and Europe is so bad, the UK voted for Brexit. Berg is such a little childish dolt.
Clearly, YDGAF about the facts either.
The next fact you post will be your first. Any monkey can cut and paste. Put yourself out there and give an opinion. See how that goes. Here is another fact. Trump will not get convicted. Troll.

It’s entirely possible that Trump won’t be convicted, this time, but he will be impeached again, as long as continues to violate the law and trample the Constitution.

But Trump also won’t be re-elected. He’s done too much damage. The American people are done with him.

LOL, why do you lefty's saying these stupid things? Will you have a heart attack when he is elected? Will you leave the hemisphere?

Trump is poisoning everything he touches. He always has. He’s the most toxic businessman in American history. BILLIONS in businesss losses, 3000 plus law suits. Hundreds of failed businesses.

Trump has always survived on his father’s wealth. Why did conservatives vet this guy and prevent his crooked lying ass from running?

You're not American!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?! why do you care?!?!?!?!? You're such an old feeble troll. I hope your knee pain is a 10/10.
 
It’s not a lie at all.

He said he was going to have Barr talk with them. Trump never told Barr anything and Zelinsky’s government got no requests for assistance from the DoJ. Therefore didn’t go through legitimate routes.

How in the hell would you know that? Are you working in Barr's office? Your speculation is absurd.
Barr’s spokesman told us. No one wants anything to do with this “drug deal”.


Hmmmm....I don't see a citation in this claim, so I have to conclude you made it up.

You never asked for a citation. Ask and ye shall receive.

Justice Department: Trump never asked Barr to talk to Ukraine

You assumed I was speculating. You were incorrect.


As of September...However, I will point you to your own article, pay attention to the bolded parts....

"The newly released transcript does not show any explicit quid pro quo, but it does show that Trump brought up how much assistance the United States gives Ukraine and later said he wanted Zelensky to speak with Giuliani and Barr about a possible investigation into the Bidens.

"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great," he said.

Trump urged Ukraine's president to speak to Giuliani.

“I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call,” Trump said.

snip

"The DOJ determined that the call and the surrounding circumstances described in an intelligence community whistleblower complaint did not constitute a campaign finance violation."

Now, you may not like it, but your complaint is a dead issue.

I could care less if the DoJ determined there was no violation of campaign finance law. That’s not the issue. Thats not my complaint.
 
Well yeah. Investigating someone requires you to violate their privacy.


Translation = you can NEVER EVER INVESTIGATE DEMOCRATS WHO STEAL FROM THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.... or we will HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Democrats are investigates all the time. But those investigations come from legitimate means. Not political vendettas.

Like the Russia Hoax and the Steele Dossier. LOL

Why did HRC's team smash blackberries and ipads? Nothing to see here....
Smashing devices when you’re done with them is how you prevent your data from falling into the wrong hands. When I recycle computers, I’ve drilled out hard drives. Are you telling me I’m part of a criminal conspiracy too?
 
You don’t need to dumb it down for me. I know what you all are alleging. The problem is, there’s no evidence for it.

For starters, Biden’s explanation that Shokin was fired for corruption makes sense. It’s consistent with what everyone in the decision making process has been claiming all along. The only one claiming anything different is the guy that was fired because he was corrupt. If that’s your sole source, then admit it but be aware that his credibility is quite poor. There is no evidence connecting Hunter Biden to policy set at the State Department.

Now, if Joe Biden showed up in Ukraine and decided unilaterally that Shokin needs to be fired and demanded that everyone go along with his decision, you’d have a different matter on your hands. The problem is; that’s the exact opposite of what happened. The push to fire Shokin originated from the embassy staff in Ukraine, not Biden.

John Solomon’s story doesn’t really corroborate your allegation either. None of these memos he’s touting have any evidence that anyone in Burisma was pushing for Shokin to be fired.
I did that because it encapsulates what DJT believed. What he asked for was for an investigation. If that investigation shows zippo then he looks bad. DJT didn’t ask for Zelensky to make up information LOL.

Doesn’t matter what he finds. Just announcing the investigation is intended to harm Biden. That’s why it was important to have a public announcement. Furthermore, involving his personal attorney gives Trump a peek into the investigation where he doesn’t belong. Those two facts alone demonstrate Trump’s corrupt intent.

If Trump were actually concerned about it, an investigation would go through the DoJ. Not through his personal attorney.

In this country, you don’t get to investigate just because you want to. Investigations have to be predicated on credible information (don’t get distracted now, I know you want to take about a different matter here, resist the urge). Trump should not be unilaterally making that decision because he has demonstrated he isn’t basing it on credible information that would constitute an adequate predicate.

Of course it matters. If he finds nothing, DJT looks very bad. What are you talking about. He said to speak with Barr on an open phone call. "Corrupt intent"? LOL

You're crazy. He had credible info. This is 100% subjective. You cannot possibly prove his intent.

Ha! DJT will look bad to who exactly? His cult members. No. If they find nothing, it’ll just be the cult complaining of a corrupt judicial process just like they did for Clinton. Facts make little difference. The damage is done.

He never spoke to Barr. There goes the cover story.

You can prove intent. Happens all the time. You can’t prove intent to the cult members, though. You can’t prove anything to them.

Who’s the credible information? Shokin? Not credible. Wouldn’t stand up a second in court. That’s why the DoJ is steering clear.

Prove his intent then:

#1) Did he want Biden investigated because of what happened in 2016.

#2) Did he want Biden investigated because he was worried about 2020.

Even the best attorneys will tell you it is nearly impossible to prove intent. You an attorney and a doctor now? There is zero chance the Senate convicts. You admitted as such. Youre just posturing now. Little Leftist Troll.

Intent is proven in court all the time. Did you not know this?
 

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