Executive powers “will not be questioned”. Sounded better in the original German.

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

Since we live in a Constitutional Republic, suspension of democracy or the democratic process by which we elect our representatives is not a option.

You are currently suspending resp. not enforcing immigration law and those who want to enforce it are declared nazis by funny loons. As result, they declare US immigration law "nazi".

 

[2aguy]

Trump powers 'will not be questioned' on immigration, senior official says

The ninth circuit also rejected the White House argument that the president has “unreviewable authority” to enact immigration policy, amounting to a blank check to restrict travelers from a vast swath of North Africa and the Middle East.

“Rather than present evidence to explain the need for the executive order, the government has taken the position that we must not review its decision at all,” the panel wrote.

“The public has a powerful interest in national security and in the ability of an elected president to enact policies,” the judges continued, but “the public also has an interest in free flow of travel, in avoiding separation of families, and in freedom from discrimination.”

On Fox News Sunday, Miller forcefully defended the ban by citing terrorist attacks committed on US soil “from 9/11 to San Bernardino to Chattanooga”. None of those attacks were executed by foreign nationals from the seven countries targeted by Trump’s ban.

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It's as if Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and so in retaliation, the US attacked Brazil. That's how much sense this makes.

And "will not be questioned"? The entire quote in context:

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

I heard someone say it sounded better in the original German. I guess the Trump Administration doesn't know what "co-equal" branches of government actually means.

Many people in Iraq loved Saddam because they thought he was a "strong ruler". The GOP minions feel the same about Trump. They don't see anything wrong with "will not be questioned". That's why they are dangerous to the country and the world.

You mean except for the 72 odd immigrants from those countries already convicted of attacking Americans

List them. Tell us about those 72 attacks. You are one parroting idiot. You are repeating a bogus meme which has been debunked.

"I want to bleev it, so it must be true!"

Why do you get in line and BEG to be lied to?


Trump called for a Muslim ban after San Bernadino. That attack was carried about by a woman on a visa from Saudi Arabia. She was originally from Pakistan.

And yet neither one of those countries is on Trump's list.

Here you go asshole...

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

Did you read your own link, retard?

Obviously not.

Here's another one for you: Stephen Miller’s claim that 72 from banned countries were implicated in ‘terroristic activity’

• About 10 people who were among 20 men of Middle Eastern origin arrested after the 9/11 attacks under suspicion of fraudulently obtaining a license to transport hazardous materials. None of them were linked to terrorist groups.

• Nageeb Abdul Jabar al-Hadi, a native of Yemen, was found guilty of visa and passport fraud. He had used the documents to get on a flight hours after the 9/11 attacks. His attorney said he was a “victim of bad advice from his friends in his home country.”
• Hadir Awad, native of Syria, was accused of borrowing a passport from a friend and using it to enter the United States illegally in 1999. He was convicted of a charge of visa fraud.

So right there alone are 12 of the 72, and NONE of them were terrorists. NONE of them were "convicted of attacking Americans", you lying fuck.

Asswipe.......keep reading.......moron...

 

[2aguy]

Trump powers 'will not be questioned' on immigration, senior official says

The ninth circuit also rejected the White House argument that the president has “unreviewable authority” to enact immigration policy, amounting to a blank check to restrict travelers from a vast swath of North Africa and the Middle East.

“Rather than present evidence to explain the need for the executive order, the government has taken the position that we must not review its decision at all,” the panel wrote.

“The public has a powerful interest in national security and in the ability of an elected president to enact policies,” the judges continued, but “the public also has an interest in free flow of travel, in avoiding separation of families, and in freedom from discrimination.”

On Fox News Sunday, Miller forcefully defended the ban by citing terrorist attacks committed on US soil “from 9/11 to San Bernardino to Chattanooga”. None of those attacks were executed by foreign nationals from the seven countries targeted by Trump’s ban.

----------------------------------------
It's as if Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and so in retaliation, the US attacked Brazil. That's how much sense this makes.

And "will not be questioned"? The entire quote in context:

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

I heard someone say it sounded better in the original German. I guess the Trump Administration doesn't know what "co-equal" branches of government actually means.

Many people in Iraq loved Saddam because they thought he was a "strong ruler". The GOP minions feel the same about Trump. They don't see anything wrong with "will not be questioned". That's why they are dangerous to the country and the world.

You mean except for the 72 odd immigrants from those countries already convicted of attacking Americans

List them. Tell us about those 72 attacks. You are one parroting idiot. You are repeating a bogus meme which has been debunked.

"I want to bleev it, so it must be true!"

Why do you get in line and BEG to be lied to?


Trump called for a Muslim ban after San Bernadino. That attack was carried about by a woman on a visa from Saudi Arabia. She was originally from Pakistan.

And yet neither one of those countries is on Trump's list.

Here you go asshole...

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

Did you read your own link, retard?

Obviously not.

Here's another one for you: Stephen Miller’s claim that 72 from banned countries were implicated in ‘terroristic activity’

• About 10 people who were among 20 men of Middle Eastern origin arrested after the 9/11 attacks under suspicion of fraudulently obtaining a license to transport hazardous materials. None of them were linked to terrorist groups.

• Nageeb Abdul Jabar al-Hadi, a native of Yemen, was found guilty of visa and passport fraud. He had used the documents to get on a flight hours after the 9/11 attacks. His attorney said he was a “victim of bad advice from his friends in his home country.”
• Hadir Awad, native of Syria, was accused of borrowing a passport from a friend and using it to enter the United States illegally in 1999. He was convicted of a charge of visa fraud.

So right there alone are 12 of the 72, and NONE of them were terrorists. NONE of them were "convicted of attacking Americans", you lying fuck.

moron....


Ohio State attack latest stain on Somali community of Columbus

A knife and car attack Monday at Ohio State University by an 18-year-old Somali man that left 11 injured highlights an unfortunate string of incidents involving members of Columbus’ Somali migrant population in recent years.

The capital of the Buckeye State has long had a large community comprised of Somali nationals and with 38,000 people, it's one of the largest Somali populations in the U.S.


And more....


Back in Feburary, a Middle-Eastern restaurant in Columbus was the scene of a frightening machete attack that left four people wounded and the attacker killed.

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Columbus, Ohio, restaurant owner Hany Baransi describes the machete attack in his Columbus establishment. (Doral Chenoweth/The Columbus Dispatch via AP)

Nazareth Restaurant and Deli owner Hani Baransi told Foxnews.com in May that he thought he and his establishment were targeted by a Muslim man with a Somali background because he was from Israel and adorned his establishment with the Jewish State’s flag.



One of the waitresses told him I was from Israel,” Baransi said. “He came back 30 minutes later and started attacking customers."

-------



Just two months later, another Columbus resident of Somali descent was indicted after he returned from Syria where he trained alongside terrorists and was discovered to be planning an attack on a U.S. military base or prison.

Abdirahman Sheik Mohamud, a U.S. citizen originally from Somalia, wanted to "kill three or four American soldiers execution style," according to his indictment from April. Attacking the prison was part of a backup plan if that didn't work, the charges said.

Mohamud, 23, of Columbus was charged with supporting terrorism, supporting the same terrorist group and making a false statement involving international terrorism when he allegedly lied to an Ohio FBI agent by saying he was in Istanbul when authorities say he was in Syria.

Some incidents have gone back years.

It was nearly a decade ago when a Somali immigrant from Columbus was sentenced to ten years in prison for plotting to blow up an Ohio shopping mall with a man who was convicted of being an al-Qaeda terrorist.

The alleged plot was never carried out by Nuradin Abdi, whose lawyer long maintained that he was guilty at most of ranting about the United States' handling of the war in Afghanistan.

Abdi pleaded guilty to one count of conspiring to provide material support for terrorists and three charges against him were dropped as part of his plea deal; Abdi could have received 80 years in prison had he been convicted of all the counts he had faced. Upon his release, Abdi will be deported to Somalia.

Prosecutors at the time said Abdi made threatening comments about an unspecified shopping mall during a meeting with two other alleged terrorists on Aug. 8, 2002, at a coffee shop in suburban Columbus.

Abdi and the two "could attack the mall with a bomb," Abdi told his friends, according to court documents.

 

[g5000]

Trump powers 'will not be questioned' on immigration, senior official says

The ninth circuit also rejected the White House argument that the president has “unreviewable authority” to enact immigration policy, amounting to a blank check to restrict travelers from a vast swath of North Africa and the Middle East.

“Rather than present evidence to explain the need for the executive order, the government has taken the position that we must not review its decision at all,” the panel wrote.

“The public has a powerful interest in national security and in the ability of an elected president to enact policies,” the judges continued, but “the public also has an interest in free flow of travel, in avoiding separation of families, and in freedom from discrimination.”

On Fox News Sunday, Miller forcefully defended the ban by citing terrorist attacks committed on US soil “from 9/11 to San Bernardino to Chattanooga”. None of those attacks were executed by foreign nationals from the seven countries targeted by Trump’s ban.

----------------------------------------
It's as if Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and so in retaliation, the US attacked Brazil. That's how much sense this makes.

And "will not be questioned"? The entire quote in context:

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

I heard someone say it sounded better in the original German. I guess the Trump Administration doesn't know what "co-equal" branches of government actually means.

Many people in Iraq loved Saddam because they thought he was a "strong ruler". The GOP minions feel the same about Trump. They don't see anything wrong with "will not be questioned". That's why they are dangerous to the country and the world.

You mean except for the 72 odd immigrants from those countries already convicted of attacking Americans

List them. Tell us about those 72 attacks. You are one parroting idiot. You are repeating a bogus meme which has been debunked.

"I want to bleev it, so it must be true!"

Why do you get in line and BEG to be lied to?


Trump called for a Muslim ban after San Bernadino. That attack was carried about by a woman on a visa from Saudi Arabia. She was originally from Pakistan.

And yet neither one of those countries is on Trump's list.

Here you go asshole...

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

Did you read your own link, retard?

Obviously not.

Here's another one for you: Stephen Miller’s claim that 72 from banned countries were implicated in ‘terroristic activity’

• About 10 people who were among 20 men of Middle Eastern origin arrested after the 9/11 attacks under suspicion of fraudulently obtaining a license to transport hazardous materials. None of them were linked to terrorist groups.

• Nageeb Abdul Jabar al-Hadi, a native of Yemen, was found guilty of visa and passport fraud. He had used the documents to get on a flight hours after the 9/11 attacks. His attorney said he was a “victim of bad advice from his friends in his home country.”
• Hadir Awad, native of Syria, was accused of borrowing a passport from a friend and using it to enter the United States illegally in 1999. He was convicted of a charge of visa fraud.

So right there alone are 12 of the 72, and NONE of them were terrorists. NONE of them were "convicted of attacking Americans", you lying fuck.

Asswipe.......keep reading.......moron...

"72 odd immigrants from those countries already convicted of attacking Americans".

You lied.

Why do you BEG to be lied to, and then parrot those lies?

 

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

A democracy should have this included into the law. Our does. But at first, lets take a look at some examples. The destruction of the country, whether you recognize it or not, must be stopped and undone, whether the democracy must be suspended or not. While the country is going downhill, the military still gets huge sums of cash, that should be used to restore the country. Investing the money into more carriers and bombers, while the things get out of control in various matters, should be deemed illegal and criminal. The USA suffers from divisions based on skin color and who is President for the next 4 years, which both doesn´t matter in the larger view. Crime is out of control, you get shot when you go out to get cigarettes. Apropos cigarettes. They are banned in my places, even in the open, while cars pollute the air. Smokers must stand in a smoking area in the open (!!), which makes the situation look like some kind of apartheid. Sexual perversion is being supported while family has become a bad term. The infrastructure is a mess. Altogether, the country is in no way fit for the future. It is a big party for the current egomaniac generation that virtually eats up the country like locusts. Time to act, the village is rotten, already destroyed.

However, here´s our constitutional article:

"Gegen jeden, der es unternimmt, diese Ordnung zu beseitigen, haben alle Deutschen das Recht zum Widerstand, wenn andere Abhilfe nicht möglich ist."

Translation:
Against everyone, who is about to abolish this [democratic] order, all Germans have the right to resist, if there are no other means available.
Das Recht auf Widerstand zum Schutz der Verfassung

You see, suspending democracy is an important component of democracy.

 

[rdean]

Trump powers 'will not be questioned' on immigration, senior official says

The ninth circuit also rejected the White House argument that the president has “unreviewable authority” to enact immigration policy, amounting to a blank check to restrict travelers from a vast swath of North Africa and the Middle East.

“Rather than present evidence to explain the need for the executive order, the government has taken the position that we must not review its decision at all,” the panel wrote.

“The public has a powerful interest in national security and in the ability of an elected president to enact policies,” the judges continued, but “the public also has an interest in free flow of travel, in avoiding separation of families, and in freedom from discrimination.”

On Fox News Sunday, Miller forcefully defended the ban by citing terrorist attacks committed on US soil “from 9/11 to San Bernardino to Chattanooga”. None of those attacks were executed by foreign nationals from the seven countries targeted by Trump’s ban.

----------------------------------------
It's as if Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and so in retaliation, the US attacked Brazil. That's how much sense this makes.

And "will not be questioned"? The entire quote in context:

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

I heard someone say it sounded better in the original German. I guess the Trump Administration doesn't know what "co-equal" branches of government actually means.

Many people in Iraq loved Saddam because they thought he was a "strong ruler". The GOP minions feel the same about Trump. They don't see anything wrong with "will not be questioned". That's why they are dangerous to the country and the world.

You mean except for the 72 odd immigrants from those countries already convicted of attacking Americans

List them. Tell us about those 72 attacks. You are one parroting idiot. You are repeating a bogus meme which has been debunked.

"I want to bleev it, so it must be true!"

Why do you get in line and BEG to be lied to?


Trump called for a Muslim ban after San Bernadino. That attack was carried about by a woman on a visa from Saudi Arabia. She was originally from Pakistan.

And yet neither one of those countries is on Trump's list.

Here you go asshole...

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

Kohn: Since 9/11, right-wing extremists killed more Americans than Islamic extremists

Since US born, right wing terrorists kill more people than foreign born Muslims, I think we need to find out those states the right wing terrorists are from and block them from leaving those states and moving to other states. That would tend to keep the killing limited to Red States.

 

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

This is NOT one of those times.

Not yet. If Trump fails, you´ve reached that point.

 

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

Since we live in a Constitutional Republic, suspension of democracy or the democratic process by which we elect our representatives is not a option.

As a matter of fact, democracy means more than elections. Americans know that very well, you have many means of democracy. With suspension of democracy I mean for example to repair a bridge, whether the government and protesters forbid it or not.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

Sometimes you have to destroy a town to save it. E.g. ben tre

 

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

Sometimes you have to destroy a town to save it. E.g. ben tre

Executive powers “will not be questioned”. Sounded better in the original German.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

ISIS as a going concern is nearly finished. Obama handed Trump a mop up operation.

Let's hope Trump can handle this simple task.

LMAO!

Hey Trump,
I kinda sorta almost got some of this mess I created under control. Hope you can finish it up for me.

Pres Obie

ISIS loses 45 percent of territory in Iraq, 20 percent in Syria

And that was before Iraq began major operations to run ISIS down.

Oh boy! Obie contained 45% and 20% of something he helped create 100% of! What a success story.

 

[g5000]

ISIS as a going concern is nearly finished. Obama handed Trump a mop up operation.

Let's hope Trump can handle this simple task.

LMAO!

Hey Trump,
I kinda sorta almost got some of this mess I created under control. Hope you can finish it up for me.

Pres Obie

ISIS loses 45 percent of territory in Iraq, 20 percent in Syria

And that was before Iraq began major operations to run ISIS down.

Oh boy! Obie contained 45% and 20% of something he helped create 100% of! What a success story.

ISIS was created 100 percent by George W. Bush. That's why Trump wanted Bush impeached, and why Trump wanted to cut and run from Iraq.

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Lincoln.

Hey, moron, Lincoln was involved in a bit of insurrection.....versus Trump being involved with a hurt ego.

Oh, I dunno ...

If it LOOKS like a budding insurrection ...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

ISIS as a going concern is nearly finished. Obama handed Trump a mop up operation.

Let's hope Trump can handle this simple task.

LMAO!

Hey Trump,
I kinda sorta almost got some of this mess I created under control. Hope you can finish it up for me.

Pres Obie

ISIS loses 45 percent of territory in Iraq, 20 percent in Syria

And that was before Iraq began major operations to run ISIS down.

Oh boy! Obie contained 45% and 20% of something he helped create 100% of! What a success story.

ISIS was created 100 percent by George W. Bush. That's why Trump wanted Bush impeached, and why Trump wanted to cut and run from Iraq.

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

So Bush created ISIS but they all just hid out for a while until obie showed up. Interesting take.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Sometimes, the principles of democracy must be suspended in order to save them.

Sometimes you have to destroy a town to save it. E.g. ben tre

Executive powers “will not be questioned”. Sounded better in the original German.

 

[easyt65]

Sorta like Obama 'yelling' at the GOP, justifying his reasoning that he 'gets' to do anything he wanted - 'I WON!'

 

[g5000]

ISIS as a going concern is nearly finished. Obama handed Trump a mop up operation.

Let's hope Trump can handle this simple task.

LMAO!

Hey Trump,
I kinda sorta almost got some of this mess I created under control. Hope you can finish it up for me.

Pres Obie

ISIS loses 45 percent of territory in Iraq, 20 percent in Syria

And that was before Iraq began major operations to run ISIS down.

Oh boy! Obie contained 45% and 20% of something he helped create 100% of! What a success story.

ISIS was created 100 percent by George W. Bush. That's why Trump wanted Bush impeached, and why Trump wanted to cut and run from Iraq.

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

So Bush created ISIS but they all just hid out for a while until obie showed up. Interesting take.

US Camp Bucca in Iraq accidentally formed ISIS by housing jihadists together

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

 

[easyt65]

So Bush created ISIS but they all just hid out for a while until obie showed up. Interesting take.

...especially since no one really heard of ISIS until

- Obama's Syrian Red Line fiasco
- Obama began supplying them, arming them, financing them, arming them, training them, protecting them, defending them, allowing them to flow freely into Iraq, allowing them to continue running their black market oil industry that paid for 1/2 of their terrorist acts - like the Paris attack...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

LMAO!

Hey Trump,
I kinda sorta almost got some of this mess I created under control. Hope you can finish it up for me.

Pres Obie

ISIS loses 45 percent of territory in Iraq, 20 percent in Syria

And that was before Iraq began major operations to run ISIS down.

Oh boy! Obie contained 45% and 20% of something he helped create 100% of! What a success story.

ISIS was created 100 percent by George W. Bush. That's why Trump wanted Bush impeached, and why Trump wanted to cut and run from Iraq.

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

So Bush created ISIS but they all just hid out for a while until obie showed up. Interesting take.

US Camp Bucca in Iraq accidentally formed ISIS by housing jihadists together

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes like yourself for Trump to get away with it.

So the real problem was letting any of those people out of the camp alive. I can't say I disagree with that. But if that's our plan why was obie so desperate to free all of the Gitmo prisoners?

 

[g5000]

It takes a lot of nerve for a cut-and-run registered Democrat like Trump to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS. It also takes some really, really willfully ignorant rubes for Trump to get away with it.

"It just seemed like [Nancy Pelosi] was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which, personally, I think would have been a wonderful thing."

"Well, I think Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States, and I just don't understand how they could have lost that election."

"The rest of the world hates us."


BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation?

TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out! That's how they get out. Declare victory, and leave.