Feds in Portland Brutalize Navy Vet.

[playtime]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

Federal Court Issues Restraining Order on Federal Agents in Portland


Order in ACLU Lawsuit Blocks Trump’s Militarized Agents from Attacking Journalists, Legal Observers at Portland Protests While Underlying Lawsuit Proceeds

July 23, 2020

PORTLAND, Ore.— U.S. District Judge Michael Simon today blocked federal agents in Portland from dispersing, arresting, threatening to arrest, or targeting force against journalists or legal observers at protests. The court’s order, which comes in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon, adds the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Marshals Service to an existing injunction barring Portland police from arresting or attacking journalists and legal observers at Portland protests.

Under the court order, federal agents also cannot unlawfully seize any photographic equipment, audio- or video-recording equipment, or press passes from journalists and legal observers, or order journalists or legal observers to stop photographing, recording, or observing a protest.

“This order is a victory for the rule of law,” said Jann Carson, interim executive director of the ACLU of Oregon. “Federal agents from Trump’s Departments of Homeland Security and Justice are terrorizing the community, threatening lives, and relentlessly attacking journalists and legal observers documenting protests. These are the actions of a tyrant, and they have no place anywhere in America.”
Federal Court Issues Restraining Order on Federal Agents in Portland

 

[Camp]

We are seeing more and more evidence and learning while early violence and some sporadic violence are still related to peaceful protest, government forces are instigating much of the recent violence.

 

[playtime]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

I think rioting and looting is against the law. Mkay?

the vet, nor pettibone were involved in any of that. the feds have attacked 'medics', journalists, & legal observers.

the lawsuits have already started, lenny. they overreached & it seems alot of the feds involved have not been trained properly. the trump administration are taking dregs & turning them into CBP & boppers that used to get turned down from those kinda jobs.

 

[toobfreak]

The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.

As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.

Video: Federal cops whale on Navy vet protesting in Portland

Accountability.

hotair.com

There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.

For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.

You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.

Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.

LOL what's 'magical' abou tbeing a vet? Lots of famous nutjobs and traitors were 'vets'. Remember Lee Harvey Oswald? Sicko deviant faggot Manning? The Walker family spy ring?

So kneeling really wasn't a big deal after all?

What are you babbling about? Something confuse you about the mere category of being a vet not preventing someone wfrom indulging criminal inclinations? Why do you think the military has an MCJ, to catch soldiers not tying their shoes correctly or something?

Nothing criminal was done. You know that.

Refusing an order by riot police to back off, disband, leave the area and go home is a crime.

There is no crime for an adult to be out in public.

There is no crime in having Federal police defending Federal property from assholes and traitors. Don't like it, don't participate in riots and insurrections, just because your Party's criminal activities are being exposed daily and it turns out your Party's leadership should be doing hard time in Federal prisons, including your former President and VP, the latter an admitted professional extortionist.

The person in question was of no threat to anything.

A). Hindsight is 20/20. How are the riot police supposed to know that in the heat of the moment dealing with hundreds of people in the dark?
B). Bullshit strawman argument. He was ordered away from the area to leave and refused to comply with a lawful police order. Doesn't matter if the guy was Mr. Rogers. The Feds did not say: "All DANGEROUS THREATENING PEOPLE out of the area! Safe, nice people can stay!"

Have the protests stopped? Violence isn't going to stop them.

Violence isn't going to stop them? Wha-- are you KIDDING me? Jackass, if the authorities really wanted, they could remove every last protester off the street in 5 minutes, end every riot, looting. You really want them to do that? What would you like, another Tienanmen Square, jerk?

It is the LACK of violence that has allowed things to go this far. Authorities have stepped back and let you little a-holes have your fun, And this is what it has gotten us.

 

[toobfreak]

the protests were actually winding down

the government can't win with violence.

Protests winding down. That must be why they added the wall of vets and moms to their ranks.
Government can't win. Fool, the government is capable of violence you can't even imagine. They've done nothing so far.

 

[toobfreak]

Not true, plainclothes police do not have to identify themselves until they apply their police powers, that is until the take someone into custody.

Actually that requirement starts when an officer exercises "control" over someone.
They must identify themselves before they can detain a witness or suspect for questioning

Arrest vs. Detention: How to Tell Whether You've Been Arrested or Detained

In general, if a reasonable person in the suspect’s shoes wouldn’t feel free to leave an encounter with the police, then there’s been either a detention or an

www.nolo.com

Absolutely, so they drive up in their unmarked car, wearing civilian clothes grab the person and tell him they want him for questioning. That's exactly what the federal agents did.

Show me a video of people in civilian clothes doing this.

Show you a video of plainclothes detective picking up a suspect? What planet do you live on?

They have a badge dumbass!

They have badges but they are concealed until the detectives apply their police powers, dumbass. They same is true for some of the federal law enforcement officers operating in the failed city of Portland.

the little green goons are not identifying themselves; nor are 'detectives'. they were finally outed by ' acting ' DHS flying monkey, chad wolf as being CBP & FBP.

They are federal law enforcement officers working within the framework of federal and they function in the same way local SWAT teams do. Just as plainclothes detectives drive around in unmarked cars and don't reveal their police identities until applying taking someone into custody, so do these federal law enforcement officers, and just as SWAT teams dress in military style gear and sometimes facemasks to hide their identities, so do these federal officers. If you don't object to the local police doing these things, then your objection to federal law enforcement officers doing them can only be attributed to your political bias.

Shouldn't this thread have been named / renamed to:

IDIOT FORMER NAVY VET WALKS UP TO, PROVOKES FED OFFICERS AT RIOT TO CREATE SCENE TO BLAME TRUMP WITH?

there was no provocation. so your 'question' ... much like you... is moot.

So I guess the feds REACHED OUT with their 30 foot long batons and mace and beat that guy? Nope, that idiot made a bad mistake, disobeyed police commands and got up right in their faces and paid the price. Should have been thrown in jail. The Feds are NOT there to debate political theory with every loser like you that roams the streets late at night.

 

[OKTexas]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

I think rioting and looting is against the law. Mkay?

the vet, nor pettibone were involved in any of that. the feds have attacked 'medics', journalists, & legal observers.

the lawsuits have already started, lenny. they overreached & it seems alot of the feds involved have not been trained properly. the trump administration are taking dregs & turning them into CBP & boppers that used to get turned down from those kinda jobs.

ROFLMAO

So tell the class how you sort "journalist and legal observers" from a violent mob, when they are in the crowd. This is just another ploy by you commies to tie the hands of law enforcement. I'm sure your intent is to leave the cops with no options but to use deadly force. Tell the truth, you think bodies in the street is a path to power. You are really sick puppies.

.

 

[Wapasha]

A). Hindsight is 20/20. How are the riot police supposed to know that in the heat of the moment dealing with hundreds of people in the dark?
B). Bullshit strawman argument. He was ordered away from the area to leave and refused to comply with a lawful police order. Doesn't matter if the guy was Mr. Rogers. The Feds did not say: "All DANGEROUS THREATENING PEOPLE out of the area! Safe, nice people can stay!"

For the people damning the police, try informing yourself about all the LEO who have been killed or injured, and you might grasp the importance for the riot police to move the crowd back. Anyone inferring in their efforts, is making it more likely a riot police officer, or the people and property they are trying to protect, will be harmed.

 

[Wapasha]

the vet & pettibone were not rioting.

why do you think their rights are not important?

If you are protesting about health care, and park your car in front of a hospital emergency room, you aren't rioting either, but you will be forced to move your dumb ass.

If the riot police are anticipating a riot, or addressing a riot in progress, and they are trying to create a safe zone around the officers, people and property they are trying to protect from harm. If they are asking the crowd to move back, and you refuse to move, you are interferring in police operations, breaking the law. Eventually, if you keep ignoring the warnings from police, you will come up against force, to make you move.

What part of this are you unclear of?

 

[playtime]

the protests were actually winding down

the government can't win with violence.

Protests winding down. That must be why they added the wall of vets and moms to their ranks.
Government can't win. Fool, the government is capable of violence you can't even imagine. They've done nothing so far.

the 'walls' haven't gone up until after the feds overstepped.

 

[playtime]

Not true, plainclothes police do not have to identify themselves until they apply their police powers, that is until the take someone into custody.

Actually that requirement starts when an officer exercises "control" over someone.
They must identify themselves before they can detain a witness or suspect for questioning

Arrest vs. Detention: How to Tell Whether You've Been Arrested or Detained

In general, if a reasonable person in the suspect’s shoes wouldn’t feel free to leave an encounter with the police, then there’s been either a detention or an

www.nolo.com

Absolutely, so they drive up in their unmarked car, wearing civilian clothes grab the person and tell him they want him for questioning. That's exactly what the federal agents did.

Show me a video of people in civilian clothes doing this.

Show you a video of plainclothes detective picking up a suspect? What planet do you live on?

They have a badge dumbass!

They have badges but they are concealed until the detectives apply their police powers, dumbass. They same is true for some of the federal law enforcement officers operating in the failed city of Portland.

the little green goons are not identifying themselves; nor are 'detectives'. they were finally outed by ' acting ' DHS flying monkey, chad wolf as being CBP & FBP.

They are federal law enforcement officers working within the framework of federal and they function in the same way local SWAT teams do. Just as plainclothes detectives drive around in unmarked cars and don't reveal their police identities until applying taking someone into custody, so do these federal law enforcement officers, and just as SWAT teams dress in military style gear and sometimes facemasks to hide their identities, so do these federal officers. If you don't object to the local police doing these things, then your objection to federal law enforcement officers doing them can only be attributed to your political bias.

Shouldn't this thread have been named / renamed to:

IDIOT FORMER NAVY VET WALKS UP TO, PROVOKES FED OFFICERS AT RIOT TO CREATE SCENE TO BLAME TRUMP WITH?

there was no provocation. so your 'question' ... much like you... is moot.

So I guess the feds REACHED OUT with their 30 foot long batons and mace and beat that guy? Nope, that idiot made a bad mistake, disobeyed police commands and got up right in their faces and paid the price. Should have been thrown in jail. The Feds are NOT there to debate political theory with every loser like you that roams the streets late at night.

the feds went off federal property onto property owned by the city/state. they are guards to defend federal property ONLY, unless invited by the state of oregon to supplement their own police. that did not happen, so they overstepped their authority when they beat that vet, shot the kid with the boombox ACROSS THE STREET, critically wounding him, & when they took pettibone, blocks away from the federal building they were supposta be defending.

 

[playtime]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

I think rioting and looting is against the law. Mkay?

the vet, nor pettibone were involved in any of that. the feds have attacked 'medics', journalists, & legal observers.

the lawsuits have already started, lenny. they overreached & it seems alot of the feds involved have not been trained properly. the trump administration are taking dregs & turning them into CBP & boppers that used to get turned down from those kinda jobs.

ROFLMAO

So tell the class how you sort "journalist and legal observers" from a violent mob, when they are in the crowd. This is just another ploy by you commies to tie the hands of law enforcement. I'm sure your intent is to leave the cops with no options but to use deadly force. Tell the truth, you think bodies in the street is a path to power. You are really sick puppies.

.

THEY HAD IDENTIFYING MARKERS .



also a judge put out an order that they, along with journalist & legal observers are protected. the order has merit, based on evidence that had to be presented showing that it is happening, also the order read that the feds aren't allowed to confiscate CREDENTIALS. that means they can be distinguished & also by the fact that they aren't showing any signs of aggression.

doy.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Not true, plainclothes police do not have to identify themselves until they apply their police powers, that is until the take someone into custody.

Actually that requirement starts when an officer exercises "control" over someone.
They must identify themselves before they can detain a witness or suspect for questioning

Arrest vs. Detention: How to Tell Whether You've Been Arrested or Detained

In general, if a reasonable person in the suspect’s shoes wouldn’t feel free to leave an encounter with the police, then there’s been either a detention or an

www.nolo.com

Absolutely, so they drive up in their unmarked car, wearing civilian clothes grab the person and tell him they want him for questioning. That's exactly what the federal agents did.

Show me a video of people in civilian clothes doing this.

Show you a video of plainclothes detective picking up a suspect? What planet do you live on?

They have a badge dumbass!

They have badges but they are concealed until the detectives apply their police powers, dumbass. They same is true for some of the federal law enforcement officers operating in the failed city of Portland.

the little green goons are not identifying themselves; nor are 'detectives'. they were finally outed by ' acting ' DHS flying monkey, chad wolf as being CBP & FBP.

They are federal law enforcement officers working within the framework of federal and they function in the same way local SWAT teams do. Just as plainclothes detectives drive around in unmarked cars and don't reveal their police identities until applying taking someone into custody, so do these federal law enforcement officers, and just as SWAT teams dress in military style gear and sometimes facemasks to hide their identities, so do these federal officers. If you don't object to the local police doing these things, then your objection to federal law enforcement officers doing them can only be attributed to your political bias.

bullshit. they didn't give probable cause when they put their hands on him, & started taking him away.

that is not standard protocol no matter who you are.

you can't 'resist' arrest nor be charged with assaulting a police officer if they don't say who they are & why they are taking you, & especially if you are not read your rights AT THE TIME THEY TAKE YOU.

pettibone should have resisted because any lawyer would have been able to get him off if they tried to charge him without following protocol.

why did they wait to readhim his rights until after he was taken into custody, frisked, & his backpack searched?

& why was he then asked if he wanted to waive them?

when he said no - they simply let him go.

now, spin all that into a web of reason - if you can.

Were your brain functioning properly you would realize you have no idea what was said at the time these people were arrested. However, in general police are not required to present probable cause to someone who is arrested but only to a court, when necessary. The federal standard for making an arrest, however, is different from the standard used by state and local police. State and local police must be able to show a court probable cause for making the arrest for the arrest to be valid, whereas federal law enforcement officers must only be able to show a court reasonable suspicion for making the arrest for the arrest to be valid. The slightly different standards were established by federal and state courts, not by the law enforcement officers.

While Crazy Nancy seeks to incite more violence in our cities and more divisions among Americans along racial lines with these ridiculous rants, it is noteworthy noone is taking federal officers to court over her bizarre claims that the arrests are "kidnappings" or that the arrests are in any way illegal or improper.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.

As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.

Video: Federal cops whale on Navy vet protesting in Portland

Accountability.

hotair.com

There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.

For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.

You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.

Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.

LOL what's 'magical' abou tbeing a vet? Lots of famous nutjobs and traitors were 'vets'. Remember Lee Harvey Oswald? Sicko deviant faggot Manning? The Walker family spy ring?

So kneeling really wasn't a big deal after all?

What are you babbling about? Something confuse you about the mere category of being a vet not preventing someone wfrom indulging criminal inclinations? Why do you think the military has an MCJ, to catch soldiers not tying their shoes correctly or something?

Nothing criminal was done. You know that.

Of course it was. The federal officers were trying to clear the area and he refused to move. Obstructing a federal law enforcement officer in the performance of his duties is a felony.

he was outside the perimeter they were defending. i have no problems with the feds protecting & defending federal property.

the vet was on a city street, posing no danger.

What you have a problem with has nothing to do with what is legal and proper for federal law enforcement officers to do. Federal law enforcement officers operate everywhere in the US, not just on federal property and it is a felony to ignore a lawful order from a federal law enforcement officer. His refusal to obey their order to move back was sufficient provocation for the use of force. If he has a complaint about what happened, he should take it to court.

 

[Wapasha]

No it is not. Assembling to protest is no crime.

GET IT THROUGH YOUR BLOCKHEAD, Buzzbee, confronting police and DEFYING POLICE ORDERS is NOT part of lawful, permissible assembly and protesting.

Protesting is marching on a sidewalk, during the day, carrying signs and making statements in a way that does not impact upon or impede public thoroughfare or business deemed acceptable to the authorities.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE (please take notes for future reference):

1. Blocking entrances.
2. Impeding business.
3. Disrupting business, safety and activity in the area.
4. Any violence or other threatening behavior.
5. Taking over city blocks.
6. Marching in the street (without prior permit or license).
7. Camping out and living in parks.
8. Trashing the area.
9. Blocking highways and traffic.
10. Graffiti.
11. Fireworks.
12. Bombs.
13. Projectiles.
14. Weapons.
15. Threats.
16. Blocking entrances.
17. Invading/entering/looting.
18. Setting fires/trying to start fires.
19. Damaging public property.
20. Arguing with police.
21. Disregarding police orders.

The above are the definitions of a MOB, not protesters, and in most countries, would get you anything from beaten and arrested, to locked away, charged, to even shot dead on sight. Try it in China or North Korea.

Well, that pretty much eliminates everything the leftist Democrats are doing, you're no fun

 

[Wapasha]

The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.

As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.

Video: Federal cops whale on Navy vet protesting in Portland

Accountability.

hotair.com

There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.

For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.

You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.

Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.

LOL what's 'magical' abou tbeing a vet? Lots of famous nutjobs and traitors were 'vets'. Remember Lee Harvey Oswald? Sicko deviant faggot Manning? The Walker family spy ring?

So kneeling really wasn't a big deal after all?

What are you babbling about? Something confuse you about the mere category of being a vet not preventing someone wfrom indulging criminal inclinations? Why do you think the military has an MCJ, to catch soldiers not tying their shoes correctly or something?

Nothing criminal was done. You know that.

Of course it was. The federal officers were trying to clear the area and he refused to move. Obstructing a federal law enforcement officer in the performance of his duties is a felony.

he was outside the perimeter they were defending. i have no problems with the feds protecting & defending federal property.

the vet was on a city street, posing no danger.

He was just feet from the riot police in the middle of a riot, don't give me that crap that he was outside the perimeter. How dumbed down do you have to make yourself to parrot that garbage??

 

[Wapasha]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

I think rioting and looting is against the law. Mkay?

the vet, nor pettibone were involved in any of that. the feds have attacked 'medics', journalists, & legal observers.

the lawsuits have already started, lenny. they overreached & it seems alot of the feds involved have not been trained properly. the trump administration are taking dregs & turning them into CBP & boppers that used to get turned down from those kinda jobs.

ROFLMAO

So tell the class how you sort "journalist and legal observers" from a violent mob, when they are in the crowd. This is just another ploy by you commies to tie the hands of law enforcement. I'm sure your intent is to leave the cops with no options but to use deadly force. Tell the truth, you think bodies in the street is a path to power. You are really sick puppies.

.

THEY HAD IDENTIFYING MARKERS .



also a judge put out an order that they, along with journalist & legal observers are protected. the order has merit, based on evidence that had to be presented showing that it is happening, also the order read that the feds aren't allowed to confiscate CREDENTIALS. that means they can be distinguished & also by the fact that they aren't showing any signs of aggression.

doy.

And the longer the local mayors allow these leftist rioters to continue terrorizing the city, the more innocent people will be hurt.

 

[pknopp]

The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.

As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.

Video: Federal cops whale on Navy vet protesting in Portland

Accountability.

hotair.com

There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.

For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.

You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.

Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.

LOL what's 'magical' abou tbeing a vet? Lots of famous nutjobs and traitors were 'vets'. Remember Lee Harvey Oswald? Sicko deviant faggot Manning? The Walker family spy ring?

So kneeling really wasn't a big deal after all?

What are you babbling about? Something confuse you about the mere category of being a vet not preventing someone wfrom indulging criminal inclinations? Why do you think the military has an MCJ, to catch soldiers not tying their shoes correctly or something?

Nothing criminal was done. You know that.

Of course it was. The federal officers were trying to clear the area and he refused to move. Obstructing a federal law enforcement officer in the performance of his duties is a felony.

he was outside the perimeter they were defending. i have no problems with the feds protecting & defending federal property.

the vet was on a city street, posing no danger.

He was just feet from the riot police in the middle of a riot, don't give me that crap that he was outside the perimeter. How dumbed down do you have to make yourself to parrot that garbage??

He was simply standing there peacefully protesting. It must not have been much of a "riot".

 

[OKTexas]

Bullshit, like I said, if the asshole breaks federal law and runs, the feds have every right to pursue them and throw their commie ass in jail.

nobody got arrested, kitty. so there is that. why? no probable cause.

If they were not "arrested" in the legal sense, then they were kidnapped, which happens to be a federal crime.

Do you know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? Probably not!

uh-huh. why were pettibone's miranda rights given AFTER he was detained for some time & why was he asked if he wanted to waive them? that's not kosher by any means.

It's not just not kosher.

It's unconstitutional and illegal.

I believe the people who kidnapped people off the streets need to face justice for their crimes of kidnapping. It's a federal felony.

I think rioting and looting is against the law. Mkay?

the vet, nor pettibone were involved in any of that. the feds have attacked 'medics', journalists, & legal observers.

the lawsuits have already started, lenny. they overreached & it seems alot of the feds involved have not been trained properly. the trump administration are taking dregs & turning them into CBP & boppers that used to get turned down from those kinda jobs.

ROFLMAO

So tell the class how you sort "journalist and legal observers" from a violent mob, when they are in the crowd. This is just another ploy by you commies to tie the hands of law enforcement. I'm sure your intent is to leave the cops with no options but to use deadly force. Tell the truth, you think bodies in the street is a path to power. You are really sick puppies.

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THEY HAD IDENTIFYING MARKERS .



also a judge put out an order that they, along with journalist & legal observers are protected. the order has merit, based on evidence that had to be presented showing that it is happening, also the order read that the feds aren't allowed to confiscate CREDENTIALS. that means they can be distinguished & also by the fact that they aren't showing any signs of aggression.

doy.

And when they're in a violent crowd, they get whatever the crowd gets. Perhaps they should stay away from the violent people and up wind. But hey, you've convinced me, it's time for the anarchist to be put in fucking body bags. Law enforcement will have no choice when less lethal means are taken from them, let the snipers do their job.

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[busybee01]

No it is not. Assembling to protest is no crime.

GET IT THROUGH YOUR BLOCKHEAD, Buzzbee, confronting police and DEFYING POLICE ORDERS is NOT part of lawful, permissible assembly and protesting.

Protesting is marching on a sidewalk, during the day, carrying signs and making statements in a way that does not impact upon or impede public thoroughfare or business deemed acceptable to the authorities.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE (please take notes for future reference):

1. Blocking entrances.
2. Impeding business.
3. Disrupting business, safety and activity in the area.
4. Any violence or other threatening behavior.
5. Taking over city blocks.
6. Marching in the street (without prior permit or license).
7. Camping out and living in parks.
8. Trashing the area.
9. Blocking highways and traffic.
10. Graffiti.
11. Fireworks.
12. Bombs.
13. Projectiles.
14. Weapons.
15. Threats.
16. Blocking entrances.
17. Invading/entering/looting.
18. Setting fires/trying to start fires.
19. Damaging public property.
20. Arguing with police.
21. Disregarding police orders.

The above are the definitions of a MOB, not protesters, and in most countries, would get you anything from beaten and arrested, to locked away, charged, to even shot dead on sight. Try it in China or North Korea.

YOU ARE THE BLOCKHEAD. The video clearly shows he was doing none of that. Also worth noting that he was not arrested so clearly he was not doing anything illegal. If I were the Democrats, I would use this in a campaign ad so Americans know what Trump means when he talks about law and order.