Feds start fight with American Patriots in Oregon

[Luddly Neddite]

The Civil disobedience practiced by Civil Rights activist included occupying public space such as "st In s" at lunch counters insisting that Black folks be provided service...HOWEVER none of the lunch counter sitters came armed with weapons saying they would defend themselves if challenged...the Civil rights folks did not fight back when assaulted by mobs

And if they, they would have been mowed down and the racists would be celebrating.

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

dude, they don't care, they'd rather people protesting and damaging buildings and setting fire to tax payer vehicles stealing from their neighborhood stores and such. That's the america these goofballs want. And they don't want the cops to interfere either.

 

[jc456]

Those of you who are on the side of the Bundys and the rest of them -

Can you say why you believe they should get the land given to them? As it is, they get a 93% discount that tax payers susidize. Why should they get that? And why do you think we should pay for the rest of their land?

they don't want the land, they want the state to own it. Get your facts in order.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years? How much time do you think they have? Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Do you know of any other business that is subsidized by the tax payer?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

dude, they don't care, they'd rather people protesting and damaging buildings and setting fire to tax payer vehicles stealing from their neighborhood stores and such. That's the america these goofballs want. And they don't want the cops to interfere either.

You just described the armed occupation Welfare Queens in Oregon.

 

[depotoo]

They have been fighting to get it returned to the state level for management for years.

Those of you who are on the side of the Bundys and the rest of them -

Can you say why you believe they should get the land given to them? As it is, they get a 93% discount that tax payers susidize. Why should they get that? And why do you think we should pay for the rest of their land?

 

[bodecea]

Ironically enough Ammon Bundy after being arrested now really is occupying a bunk in a Federal property....Wolverines !!!!! they get 3 square meals a day but no snacks....Oh the Humanity....

We should send snacks.

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years? How much time do you think they have? Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Do you know of any other business that is subsidized by the tax payer?

what was that solar company that obummer gave millions to? Oh what about Tesla?

here's a link for ya:
List of Failed Obama Green Energy & Solar Companies in the Billions

"Today, Taxpayer-Backed A123 Systems, A Maker Of Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Batteries For Electric Cars, Filed For Bankruptcy. “A123 Systems Inc. (AONE), a maker of rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for electric cars, filed for bankruptcy after failing to make a debt payment that was due yesterday. The company listed assets of $459.8 million and debt of $376 million as of Aug. 31 in Chapter 11 documents filed today in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware. Chapter 11 is the section of the Bankruptcy Code used by companies to reorganize.” (Dawn McCarty and Craig Trudell, “Electric Car Battery Maker A123 Systems Files Bankruptcy Papers,” Bloomberg Businessweek, 10/16/12)"

 

[Camp]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Their cause is not supported by a majority or even a large segment of the American public. Aligning themselves with radical extremist political groups and showing up armed like rebels ready for combat has not been appreciated or conducive to public support.

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

dude, they don't care, they'd rather people protesting and damaging buildings and setting fire to tax payer vehicles stealing from their neighborhood stores and such. That's the america these goofballs want. And they don't want the cops to interfere either.

You just described the armed occupation in Oregon.

how?

 

[Dot Com]

Since when is an armed take-over of federal property a "civil right"?

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

Ironic considering military bases are federal property FAKE VET Good thing you never been on one

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Their cause is not supported by a majority or even a large segment of the American public. Aligning themselves with radical extremist political groups and showing up armed like rebels ready for combat has not been appreciated or conducive to public support.

let's see your poll numbers on that einstein.

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

You're just another ignorant cracker racist BUT

If you're going to say they have a "civil right" to take over a govt building with guns, you also have to admit they were stopping other Americans from using their own property.

AND, just like you, they were leeches on the Americans who pay their taxes. Neither you nor they have any right to the buildings that true Americans pay for.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Their cause is not supported by a majority or even a large segment of the American public. Aligning themselves with radical extremist political groups and showing up armed like rebels ready for combat has not been appreciated or conducive to public support.

My money would be on that most likely the majority of americans couldn't care less what is happening there.

 

[Camp]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

The use of our public lands is anchored in a system that begins with elected officials in Congress. It is indeed the citizens who determine how our public lands are used. Anyone can change the way specific parcels and sections of that public lands are used with the normal system of petitioning and lobbying the Congress and Executive Branch or the courts.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Their cause is not supported by a majority or even a large segment of the American public. Aligning themselves with radical extremist political groups and showing up armed like rebels ready for combat has not been appreciated or conducive to public support.

let's see your poll numbers on that einstein.

Lets see yours.

 

[Old Rocks]

Feds didn't start anything. It was already started. By those idiots.

Why are they idiots?....Because they refuse to comply with what they consider to be unjust laws?
Laws that the federal government passed that allow itself to take any land it sees fit?
Look, I am no supporter of these nut jobs in places like Idaho and of course those US based Muslim terror camps.....
However, these are simple people who have lived in these lands for generations. Then the federal government shows up with paper and guns and tell these people, this land now belongs to the people of the USA".....No due process. No compensation in
fair market value. It's confiscation. Plain and simple.

You fucking idiot. That land was open range land, most of it has never been owned, and what was homesteaded, and the homesteads failed, the government bought, giving the homesteaders that failed a stake. The Refuge was created in 1908 by Theodore Roosevelt. The grazing fees on private land go for about $20 per unit. On BLM land, about $1.63 per unit.

This is not about grazing issues, this is about armed men seizing a Federal Property. They are felons, and deserve to be treated as such.

 

[Dot Com]

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

That sounds like a personal problem to me Pole Smoker SeniorChief_Polock . Why didn't you run for President? Our proud two-term, African American, President is more qualified to be President than some FAKE VET (you) on a msg board. He earned it.

As to the OP, yeah those deadbeats needed to be taken down. Their women folk were no doubt doing all their work for them back in Nevada

 

[jc456]

And you think ranchers haven't been trying for years?Many going broke in the process.

What a joke. Unless you know the right people, find a powerful rep sympathetic to your plight, or can afford an expensive high profile attorney, no.

It happens all the time. You're just making excuses. People go to great lengths to bring about change. It takes time, patience and lots of work.

Their cause is not supported by a majority or even a large segment of the American public. Aligning themselves with radical extremist political groups and showing up armed like rebels ready for combat has not been appreciated or conducive to public support.

let's see your poll numbers on that einstein.

Lets see yours.

no, no, please, you made the accusation, post up them numbers. I never said I had any, i just said that my money would be that most don't care. Now you can prove my dumb ass wrong. go for it.

 

[jc456]

Federal property belongs to "we the people," dingbat. Just like that home on 1600 Penn. Ave., that the "Chimp" occupies. It belongs to Americans.

That sounds like a personal problem to me Pole smoker SeniorChief_Polock . Why didn't you run for President? Our proud two-term, African American, President is more qualified to be President than some FAKE VET (you) on a msg board. He earned it.

As to the OP, yeah those deadbeats needed to be taken down. Their women folk were no doubt doing all their work for them back in Nevada

earned? what the fk does that mean?

 

[Old Rocks]

The scenario has been painted Bundy was in the minority. But the Boise news outlets are claiming it's about 60-40 in sympathy with Bundy.

Not surprising.

The Feds have no idea how much the working class has started to hate them reflexively today.

Wish I could share some of my personal experiences as a Federal contractor, but I cant. All you have to do to find people who hate the Feds is to go about 400 miles due west from DC.

actually the blm around here is pretty reasonable. I had a neighbor accidentally start a blm fire. But they just let it go.
It was open range where I farmed, so it was my responsibility by fencing, to keep cattle off my property.

We should auction off most of the federal owned land west of Kansas and apply it to the national debt.

Fucking bullshit. So then Chinese, Japanese, and Saudi's buy it, and we see the land closed off to American Citizens. And the ranchers get to pay whatever the market will bear for the grazing. If they are allowed to graze at all. Keep it as it is. A good system for all.

 

[NYcarbineer]

BREAKING NOW: Harney District Hospital in Burns, Ore., on lockdown following reports of shots fired between Militia and Feds; nearby highways closed
GET EM PATRIOTS!

lol, an idiot at USMB calls for the murder of Federal law enforcement.

Is it fun to be that stupid?