Floating a Trial Balloon….Literally

Same for "there were Trump balloons too".
oh the xiden admin has already back tracked that one…now they are saying…”oh there were, but the trump admin didn’t know about it, we found out after we took office” hahah
 
Biden made the decision to shoot it down on Wednesday, pentagon advisors said not now, let's gather intelligence on it, then military jammed the balloons spying capabilities while crossing U.S., waited till over shallow water, kaboom, downed in one shot, with a 7 mile stretch of balloon and spying apparatus debris landing in shallow waters, U.S. boats and ships were waiting nearby to recover.

The HATE AMERICA FIRST CROWD of republicans, can go home now, and sulk.... :rolleyes-41:

It's a balloon. HTF do you gather information on it until you shoot it down?
 
Well, to be fair, the Chinese already know what to look for, since its theirs and they sent it to begin with.

And if it is just a pretty useless high-altitude balloon of no significant importance, as Xi claims it is, would tbe Chinese really even make an effort to recover it?

Leftists will believe anything their leaders or the MSM tell them. If it was a weather balloon, would China threaten retaliation against their largest trading partners that happen to be a nuclear armed country; over a weather balloon?
 
Well, to be fair, the Chinese already know what to look for, since its theirs and they sent it to begin with.

And if it is just a pretty useless high-altitude balloon of no significant importance, as Xi claims it is, would tbe Chinese really even make an effort to recover it?

Did the military say there is any indication the Chinese are trying to do so?

How did "the Chinese" - whoever this is - navigate this baloon? Could be an interesting technologiy if it would work. ... Or: How weird is the USA meanwhile ???

What for heavens sake is able to spy a baloon in the atmosphere over the USA what no one is able to see much more easy with a kind of satellite-"google"-technology? I heard with a modern satelite someone is able to read also in a newspaper of anyone who sits anywhere in the world in his own garden and reads this newspaper.

The problem is not to spy. The problem is what to spy. The USA for example spies in every phone in the world. That's why you need for example big-data-sytems and machine learning (AI). Known are such totally senseless but nevertheless extremly dangerous stupid systems under the expression "Big brother is watching you".
 
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How did "the Chinese" - whoever this is - navigate this baloon? Could be an interesting technologiy if it would work. ... Or: How weird is the USA meanwhile ???

What for heavens sake is able to spy a baloon in the atmosphere over the USA what no one is able to see much more easy with a kind of satellite-"google"-technology? I heard with a modern satelite someone is able to read also in a newspaper of anyone who sits anywhere in the world in his own garden and reads this newspaper.

1. The technology is not thst hard. We wrre eorking o. It hefore we went into Iraq, at least.

2. A satelite moves incredibly quickly and has a limited number of passes in a tine frame and a certain limited window of opportunity to surveil. This balloon reportedky camped out over 100 US ICBM missile silis for several days.
 
Right. There was no balloon and there was no shoot down. It's all in our heads.
I say the US Military wanted to capture the Balloon.. They don't even know if it is a spy balloon or just a stray weather balloon.

Spy Balloons just don't make sense when you got satellites.

Catch and investigate was probably there original intent
 
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1. The technology is not thst hard. We wrre eorking o. It hefore we went into Iraq, at least.

2. A satelite moves incredibly quickly and has a limited number of passes in a tine frame and a certain limited window of opportunity to surveil. This balloon reportedky camped out over 100 US ICBM missile silis for several days.
I don't think you know how high altitude balloons work...

There is very little direction in them...

This is just a joke... If China did it, they were just seeing what crap they could cause, very poor intel
 
Wow, you people really are little snowflakes aren't you....?

To feign that you don't understand the level of chess
"Trump"?
Trump doesn't even understand checkers, let alone anything else.
Trump was playing using complements in diplomacy,
Diplomacy?
For what?
while working to further US position in Sino/US relations is comical.
Really?
By further entrenching the US dependency on China?
..But, I understand things like context, and rational thinking aren't your strong suits.
No, you don't.
So republicans, always claim, "People always take Trump's words out of context"........but never bother putting them INTO context.
 
I say the US Military wanted to capture the Balloon.

Why not capture it down along the Aleution Chain?

Waiting for it to get over the mainland, allowing it to transverse the whole country, then try to capture it makes little to no sense.
 
If China did it, they were just seeing what crap they could cause, very poor intel

I would not completely arhue with you there - they are gettng a lot of mileage out of embarrassing / making fun of Biden.
 
Where was the jammer that did this?
Short of sending some high-energy pulse to knock out the electronics, they would have needed a LOT of jammers since a radio jammer is only effective in a straight line at least 20° above the horizon and the thing flew from Montana down to the Midwest and across out over S. Carolina.

Was it ground-based or was it mobile and followed the balloon from one side of the country to the other?
That would have been a good, though costly option.

Since the balloon was up at 60K feet, above airline traffic altitude, did tgey coordinate with FAA on the spectrum of signals / bands rhey were jamming?
- Has anyone confirmed this with the FAA?
More good questions. If the jamming was ground-based, any flight which flew into the path of the jamming signal would have encountered severe flying problems and disruption, perhaps beyond the ability of the onboard avionics to recover from.
 
why is this even being discussed.

US Military Fears China May Reach Balloon Wreckage Before They Can Get There – Proper Salvage Vessel Won’t Be There For Days​



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I say the US Military wanted to capture the Balloon.. They don't even know if it is a spy balloon or just a stray weather balloon.

Spy Balloons just don't make sense when you got satellites.

Catch and investigate was probably there original intent

Slow moving, low altitude (relative to satellites) balloons actually make perfect sense if you can get away with it. This wasn’t a weather balloon. This was controllable and had propulsion. It had an apparatus the size of a school bus attached. It was much closer to the survellience targets than satelilites. It is a no brainer that it is actually better than satellites in many ways, but it isn’t a normal survellience method because it is easily detected and easily taken out. It is not usually worth the effort. They took a calculated risk that this administration is incompetent and wimpy enough to actually allow it to cross the US and even pause over critical sites. They were correct.
 
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1. The technology is not thst hard. We wrre eorking o. It hefore we went into Iraq, at least.

2. A satelite moves incredibly quickly and has a limited number of passes in a tine frame and a certain limited window of opportunity to surveil. This balloon reportedky camped out over 100 US ICBM missile silis for several days.

The USA is mad - that's all! Let it be to be an idiot. It's really unbelievable how stupid is the USA. This balloon is totally unimportant. You should try to solve your real problems and not the fake problems of your bored superrich superidiots.
 
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