Freedom of Religious Opinion? Not If You're Phil Robertson

I know some of you watch Duck Dynasty and probably heard that Phil Robertson was suspended by A&E for his opinion on homosexuality. He had the gall to quote 1 Corinthians 6:9 and express himself openly about his opposition to gay marriage. Groups like GLAAD came out in support of the suspension. Don't you find it odd that people like Martin Bashir get a pass for their intolerance toward conservative women, but people like Phil Robertson are being targeted for their beliefs?

Should TV Networks silence religious speech for the political sensibilities of others? As most of you were aware, Chick-Fil-A came under similar scrutiny by gay rights organizations for its views on homosexuality last year. The response from the public was overwhelming, as the restaurant experienced booming profits from the ordeal. Suffice it to say, ratings for the show may experience similar results.

Should Phil Robertson be suspended for his comments in GQ? Or should he be allowed to express himself as he is allowed to by the the First Amendment? My personal opinion here is that no TV network should be allowed to censor a man for expressing his religious beliefs.

There have been many instances of people or businesses being targeted for their religious beliefs, all for being "intolerant." Isn't it strange that you can be allowed to be homosexual, but not a person of faith? The real intolerance here, is of those who cannot accept that others aren't forced to tolerate their way of life or their practices. If you are any freedom loving American; Democrat, Republican or Libertarian, you should be disturbed by this recent turn of events.

boycott A&E!!!

I suspect the show has bit the dust. Good riddance. By the way, businesses cannot have beliefs. Businesses are not people. Recent turn of events? Anti-descrimination laws have been on the books for quite some time now. Those laws bar a company from firing someone for their race or religion, but allow it to fire someone if they have opinions the company doesn’t like. Welcome to the United States of America.

No, this show is about to undergo a renaissance. No thanks to the millions upon millions of people who came in support of Mr. Robertson. Welcome to the United States of America, where not everyone agrees with you.
 
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Making broad generalizations now is just as bad as when it occurred during the Salem Witch Trials. But oh hey, only you're allowed to make them. How cute.

My burning question to you is: How do Phil Robertson's views oppress you? Apparently hundreds of thousands of homosexuals across America believe they don't, in spite what you think.

I'm not sure what hundreds of thousands of homosexuals think, and never did I say that Robertson's views oppress me, personally.

They are kind of repulsive, because he's basically using the bible to rationalize his own bigotry.

Two things happen when you talk to a homophobe. He's quote the bible, and then he'll go around describe gay male sex in graphic terms.

Kind of like Robertson did here.

If he just said, "I think two guys having sex is icky", (again, homophobes apparently think that all gay people do all day is have sex!) then that would be an opinion. That he tried to use the bible to rationalize it is what is sort of offensive.

You know what, hundreds of thousands of Christians probably think what Robertson said was offensive.
 
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Keep up the persecution, and that will be "Christian soldiers," and civil war to reinstate this as a Christian Nation if we have to, sweetie. ;)

American Taliban

BINGO! I hit on this last night, and here we are.
 
Hearts and minds are changing. Have you noticed the trend in this country regarding acceptance of homosexuals? Twenty years ago how many people would have even batted an eye at Robertson's comments? Thirty? Forty? Those weren't the good ole days for homosexuals.

The country's views on homosexuality have flipped to the point where businesses don't want to be associated with "the other side" of the issue. That's a GOOD thing.



Voluntary tolerance and acceptance is a good thing, Government forced tolerance and acceptance is a bad thing.

Do you understand the difference?

How is the government involved in the Duck Bigot kerfluffle?

I was responding to the comment about homosexuality.
 
Now, you are relegating people of faith to the shadows, dubbing them as the social outcasts; doing the exact same thing you've accused us of doing.

Now, it is you who must defend your intolerance and bigotry, not us.

I kind of like that. Enjoy the spotlight.

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Do you think that a majority cannot be oppressed by a minority? China, N, Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa--------just to name a few.

and ya know what always happens in time? The majority takes back control-------Did you learn nothing from Nelson Mandela?


Ahem. Christianity - oppressing minorities in North America for over 500 years. Next.
 
Thanks for asking, although your "unchecked" straw man is incorrect.

We can't heal anything, we can't fix anything, and we can't change hearts and minds until and unless we can communicate. Since I actually do want to heal and fix our problems, I have to be strong enough and confident enough in my positions to allow those who disagree with me to voice theirs.

Then that's our starting point. We keep lines of communication open and we do our best to change hearts and minds with consistency, reason and civility. Over time, many hearts and minds will be changed and hopefully an improved culture will take care of much of the rest. There will always be bigots, on both ends.

Granted, this is heavy lifting compared to simplistic punishment. But for those of us who are more interested in healing than in punitive control and advantage, the heavy lifting is the only way to do it.

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Hearts and minds are changing. Have you noticed the trend in this country regarding acceptance of homosexuals? Twenty years ago how many people would have even batted an eye at Robertson's comments? Thirty? Forty? Those weren't the good ole days for homosexuals.

The country's views on homosexuality have flipped to the point where businesses don't want to be associated with "the other side" of the issue. That's a GOOD thing.



Voluntary tolerance and acceptance is a good thing, Government forced tolerance and acceptance is a bad thing.

Do you understand the difference?

I understand the difference between the two but do not agree with your black and white assessment.
 
boycott A&E!!!

I suspect the show has bit the dust. Good riddance. By the way, businesses cannot have beliefs. Businesses are not people. Recent turn of events? Anti-descrimination laws have been on the books for quite some time now. Those laws bar a company from firing someone for their race or religion, but allow it to fire someone if they have opinions the company doesn’t like. Welcome to the United States of America.

No, this show is about to undergo a renaissance. No thanks to the millions upon millions of people who came in support of Mr. Robertson. Welcome to the United States of America, where not everyone agrees with you.


Welcome to the United States of America, where not everyone agrees with you, even businesses.

Of course, you have a scientific survey that backs up your numbers, right?
 
Hearts and minds are changing. Have you noticed the trend in this country regarding acceptance of homosexuals? Twenty years ago how many people would have even batted an eye at Robertson's comments? Thirty? Forty? Those weren't the good ole days for homosexuals.

The country's views on homosexuality have flipped to the point where businesses don't want to be associated with "the other side" of the issue. That's a GOOD thing.



Voluntary tolerance and acceptance is a good thing, Government forced tolerance and acceptance is a bad thing.

Do you understand the difference?

How is the government involved in the Duck Bigot kerfluffle?

It isn't.

But I think we've found someone who is against the Civil Rights Act.
 
I suspect the show has bit the dust. Good riddance. By the way, businesses cannot have beliefs. Businesses are not people. Recent turn of events? Anti-descrimination laws have been on the books for quite some time now. Those laws bar a company from firing someone for their race or religion, but allow it to fire someone if they have opinions the company doesn’t like. Welcome to the United States of America.

No, this show is about to undergo a renaissance. No thanks to the millions upon millions of people who came in support of Mr. Robertson. Welcome to the United States of America, where not everyone agrees with you.


Welcome to the United States of America, where not everyone agrees with you, even businesses.

Of course, you have a scientific survey that backs up your numbers, right?

Uh yeah, they're called the Neilsen ratings. The backlash at GLAAD, the petitions facebook pages. Anything else? Not everything has to be scientific.
 
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Do you think that a majority cannot be oppressed by a minority? China, N, Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa--------just to name a few.

and ya know what always happens in time? The majority takes back control-------Did you learn nothing from Nelson Mandela?


Ahem. Christianity - oppressing minorities in North America for over 500 years. Next.

Ahem. We don't want to behead them.

NY1 'The Call' Viewer Calls For Gays To Be Beheaded

Next.
 
Voluntary tolerance and acceptance is a good thing, Government forced tolerance and acceptance is a bad thing.

Do you understand the difference?

How is the government involved in the Duck Bigot kerfluffle?

It isn't.

But I think we've found someone who is against the Civil Rights Act.

Geez, talk about spin. I was asking seabitch if she realized that a minority could oppress a majority and gave some examples where that has happened.

Then you lefties try to flip it around and claim that I support oppression of minorities.

You people are sick.
 
Now, you are relegating people of faith to the shadows, dubbing them as the social outcasts; doing the exact same thing you've accused us of doing.

Now, it is you who must defend your intolerance and bigotry, not us.

I kind of like that. Enjoy the spotlight.

They are free to worship as they please. No law has been passed banning them. Phil can still make his duck calls

A&E has decided they don't want him around.

Poor Phil was not punished for practicing his religion, he was punished for spouting his hate. Most bigots can't help it



Thats what you don't get. Having religious beliefs and expressing them is not bigotry. Bigotry is punishing someone for expressing beliefs different from yours.

Robertson does not want to punish anyone, he will let God be the judge.

But bigots like you think that you have the RIGHT to punish anyone who dares disagree with your Godless, statist, socialistic view of life.

I suggest you buy a dictionary, or at least go to dictionary.com and look up words before you use them.

example:


big·ot·ry
[big-uh-tree] Show IPA

noun, plural big·ot·ries.
1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

2.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

No where in this definition does the word punish appear.

Next you might want to look up "socialist".
 
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How is the government involved in the Duck Bigot kerfluffle?

It isn't.

But I think we've found someone who is against the Civil Rights Act.

Geez, talk about spin. I was asking seabitch if she realized that a minority could oppress a majority and gave some examples where that has happened.

Then you lefties try to flip it around and claim that I support oppression of minorities.

You people are sick.

The Civil Rights Act is government enforced tolerance and acceptance.
 
Muslims are oppressed here in Georgia. Every time they apply to expand an existing worship structure or build a new structure on land already zoned for religious structures they get opposition.
 
It isn't.

But I think we've found someone who is against the Civil Rights Act.

Geez, talk about spin. I was asking seabitch if she realized that a minority could oppress a majority and gave some examples where that has happened.

Then you lefties try to flip it around and claim that I support oppression of minorities.

You people are sick.

The Civil Rights Act is government enforced tolerance and acceptance.

No it isn't. No law forces anyone to accept or tolerate anyone.
 
They are free to worship as they please. No law has been passed banning them. Phil can still make his duck calls

A&E has decided they don't want him around.

Poor Phil was not punished for practicing his religion, he was punished for spouting his hate. Most bigots can't help it



Thats what you don't get. Having religious beliefs and expressing them is not bigotry. Bigotry is punishing someone for expressing beliefs different from yours.Robertson does not want to punish anyone, he will let God be the judge.

But bigots like you think that you have the RIGHT to punish anyone who dares disagree with your Godless, statist, socialistic view of life.

I suggest you buy a dictionary, or at least go to dictionary.com and look up words before you use them.

example:


big·ot·ry
[big-uh-tree] Show IPA

noun, plural big·ot·ries.
1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

2.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

No where in this definition does the word punish appear.

Next you might want to look up "socialist".



my definition agrees with yours :confused:
 
Muslims are oppressed here in Georgia. Every time they apply to expand an existing worship structure or build a new structure on land already zoned for religious structures they get opposition.

Well, you know, creeping Sharia and such as.
 

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