Freedom of Speech vs. Political Correctness

[daws101]

PC is free speech

You say something that I find offensive, my freedom of speech says I get to say something about it

The problem is the metric is passing from saying something about it into doing something about it.

Our constitution allows us not just to voice opposition to what we oppose but also to do something about it

"do something about it" Why do you guys have to speak in code all the time? Just come out and say your goal is to silence those who disagree with you by any means necessary.

Not the speaking in code bullshit again?

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Since it's not even close to being true, no.

 

[Valerie]

Where does the first amendment say you can ruin someone for their political views?

still waiting for an example of who has been 'ruined' by PC.

 

[Valerie]

facts and specifics, please...

 

[daws101]

He seems to need to put words in other posters mouths and heads

I call it as I see it, and here I see a bunch of people defending the attempted silencing of those who disagree with them.

And as always you'd be talking out your ass.

if that's all you got left. I win.

Gee, how'd I know you would say that?
Could it be that it's your fall back position when you've had your ass handed to you?

Keep thinking that, oxygen thief.

Just stating fact.
Oxygen thief lol.
I see a tantrum on the horizon.

 

[Valerie]

marty mcfarty speaks and when people hold their nose he blames PC

 

[daws101]

facts and specifics, please...

Martyr began never met fact.

 

[Valerie]

Again, I don't like Trump, so that dog isn't going to hunt. I just like how crazy he makes you idiots.

oh i see, you imagine the topic is all about you...

 

[daws101]

what bully tactics?
The right is the undesputed champion of supression.

30-40 years ago. Your side has now taken up the mantle. Congrats.

In denial much.
Nothing you've or other conservatives have presented even comes close to your fictional depiction of events.

Go to any college campus where a conservative is about to speak, and you will see attempts to disrupt said speeches and to deny the speaker a forum.

They have that right.
Anymore nonsense?

They do not have a right to disrupt a speech, or prevent me from attending it.

they have the right to respond to and eject or disrupt the speaker if the speaker is promoting an offensive or dangerous subject.
Your attendance is your choice.
If you know a speaker is there to incite and still attend whatever happens is all on you.

 

[Ravi]

you want to be an asshole AND have peer approval, tough shit...

Not approval, just the ability to say what one thinks without fear of personal ruin.

Call me an asshole, thats fine. but when you try to ruin what I have, that's a problem.

That you can't see it is sad.

What do you want to say that you fear will ruin you? You have your own business, no? So you can't be fired for what you say.

Remember political persuasions are not a protected class. One can easily be fired for ones political speech.

How about you answer the question?

You know my positions on various issues on this board. Some of them are not popular in some of my work social circles, so I feel the need to keep my mouth shut.

So you are saying political affiliation is now a protected class?

Political affiliation is not a PC issue. But you are saying you keep your mouth shut for business reasons. That makes you PC. Too funny.

 

[Ravi]

"I don't want you to think that a display of your strength is simply shutting other people up. And that part of your ability to bring about change is going to be by engagement and understanding the viewpoints and the arguments of the other side."
President Barack Obama

I wonder what Obama would think of your putting posters on ignore to shut them up. You should email him and ask him.

 

[jon_berzerk]

PC is freedom of speech. You people are a hoot.

why are you folks always so backwards

cold is hot

left is right

now pc is free speech

--LOL

PC is free speech

You say something that I find offensive, my freedom of speech says I get to say something about it

with pc speech you are not free to do so dummy

False !

false my ass

if you do then it is not politically correct dummy

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Where does the first amendment say you can ruin someone for their political views?

still waiting for an example of who has been 'ruined' by PC.

The rodeo clown who lost his job because he wore an Obama mask.

A high school track team was disqualified because one of he runners made a gesture to God as he crossed the finish line

 

[konradv]

I believe that freedom of speech is our most important Constitutional right and that political correctness is its greatest adversary. The question is, who among our Presidential candidates will be its greatest defender? The answer, obviously, is Donald Trump. You may not like his speech, but he is the embodiment of exercising that right. Ted Cruz makes good legal arguments, and the rest of the GOP candidates espouse conservative Constitutional principles, but Trump is the only one who puts his money where his mouth is. Of course this "offends" those who want to control your speech, your thoughts and your money. Isn't it time we finally tell these people to "fuck off?"

Aren't you saying "fuck off" right now? IMO, you're the one that's the enemy of free speech. You want the right to be an asshole without anyone having the right to point it out.

I placed that expression in quotation marks as a counterpoint to politically correct speech.

So did I. So you got a counterpoint! How about a point other than "woosh"? You're completely ignoring the charge that you're the one that's against free speech. I wonder why?!?!

 

[konradv]

Wouldn't she be the first one silenced? Looks like someone's adopted the Limbaugh model, i.e. making a buck off of gullible rubes!!!

 

[Mac1958]

Wouldn't she be the first one silenced? Looks like someone's adopted the Limbaugh model, i.e. making a buck off of gullible rubes!!!

Oh. I see.

Here's a nice, long list of HONEST liberals for you.

Starting off with the President. Of the United States.

Is he playing us for "gullible rubes" too?

• Obama on Political Correctness: ‘A Recipe for Dogmatism’
• Obama hits 'coddled' liberal college students

• Liberals and the Illiberal Left
  
• Can We Start Taking Political Correctness Seriously Now?
  
• The political correctness cops are going to ruin the progressive cause
• Tina Fey Calls Out The Oscars for Political Correctness, Liberal 'Hollywood Bull***t'
  
• Bill Maher Rails Against Crazy Political Correctness From Liberals Tells Media Matters to Shut The F ck Up Video RealClearPolitics
  
• Jerry Seinfeld says political correctness is hurting comedy - CBS News
  
• Don Lemon weighs in on PC culture Liberals are the most easily offended and the least tolerant - Salon.com
  
• Not a Very P.C. Thing to Say -- NYMag
  
• Liberal Turley against political correctness in News Forum
• Political correctness is the enemy of art
  
• Are Liberals Becoming Too Sensitive and Politically Correct
  
• Jim Webb says Democratic Party has lost its way - The Washington Post
  
• John Stuart Mill s Argument Against Political...
  
• Dem Blames Political Correctness for Fort Hood Workplace Violence Controversy - ABC News
  
• Is the New Political Correctness Already Dying -- NYMag
  
• I don t know what to do you guys Fredrik deBoer
  
• http://www.forwardprogressives.com/liberals-becoming-sensitive-politically-correct/
  
• http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid
  
• http://www.socialmemorycomplex.net/leftlibertarian/2012/06/12/a-leftist-critique-of-political-correctness/
  
• College Students Say Remembering 9/11 Is Offensive to Muslims
  
• How Diversity Police Halt Progress
  
• My view: Political correctness should not inhibit free speech
  
• http://scienceblogs.com/webeasties/2013/05/21/science-racism-and-political-correctness/
  
• http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/threads/liberal-columnist-leonard-pitts-asks-if-weve-overdone-political-correctness.130665/
  
• #CancelColbert and the Return of the Anti-Liberal Left
  
• REED: When liberals become illiberal
  
• PC Police Out Of Control In Possibly The Most Absurd Story I've Ever Come Across
  
• “Political Correctness” | The Progressive Professor
  
• How Liberals Ruined College
  
• Rushdie warns of new dangers to free speech in West
  
• Liberals Should Be Deeply Disturbed By Political Correctness Craze Sweeping College Campuses

 

[Mac1958]

This is just too freakin' easy.

 

[daws101]

PC is freedom of speech. You people are a hoot.

why are you folks always so backwards

cold is hot

left is right

now pc is free speech

--LOL

PC is free speech

You say something that I find offensive, my freedom of speech says I get to say something about it

with pc speech you are not free to do so dummy

False !

false my ass

if you do then it is not politically correct dummy

Your ass is mistaken.

 

[jon_berzerk]

why are you folks always so backwards

cold is hot

left is right

now pc is free speech

--LOL

PC is free speech

You say something that I find offensive, my freedom of speech says I get to say something about it

with pc speech you are not free to do so dummy

False !

false my ass

if you do then it is not politically correct dummy

Your ass is mistaken.

hey dummy if you say it

then it is not PC

 

[daws101]

PC is free speech

You say something that I find offensive, my freedom of speech says I get to say something about it

with pc speech you are not free to do so dummy

False !

false my ass

if you do then it is not politically correct dummy

Your ass is mistaken.

hey dummy if you say it

then it is not PC

Of course it is.

 

[jon_berzerk]

with pc speech you are not free to do so dummy

False !

false my ass

if you do then it is not politically correct dummy

Your ass is mistaken.

hey dummy if you say it

then it is not PC

Of course it is.

whatever mental midget