Funnelling money back to the rich. Trump's policy.

[initforme]

Ray let's just admit the rich win and the hard working person cannot get ahead in america. I'm calling this country out.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump's picks are all excellent. Did you expect him to put failures in positions. Now it is true that successful people generally have incomes to match. Failures are normally jobless and poor.

So you're saying they're going to be good just because they're rich? That makes no sense. You put in Bill Gates at Quarter Back and expect him to perform simply because he's rich?

And who do you think Hillary would have put in her cabinet, genius, a cashier from Burger King and a guy digging ditches on the street? You would have seen the same kind of people in her cabinet as well, rich Wall Street types. She was in bed with them.

The bottom line is nobody who voted for Trump cares that he's rich. If it was an issue for them they wouldn't have supported him. The only people who are making a big deal about it, ironically, are the people who supported the rich white woman who was the biggest Wall Street whore to ever be nominated for the presidency.

Yeah, I think Hillary would have put in people like this too. Hence why I didn't support Hillary or Trump.

In fact I didn't support anyone because none of them were any close to my views on thing. What I support is a change in the way people vote.

Nobody who voted Trump cares right now that he's rich. They will in 4 years time.

 

[Lastamender]

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.

Terrorists can come from anywhere, they don't need to be Muslims.

But most of them are. Do you want to turn into some other countries that have accepted these people without regard to background checks and have more terrorist activities than we do?

How many people from Islam kill people compared to other religions? Christians probably kill far more, far more terrorist attacks come from Christians than Muslims in the US, and yet..... you want to target Muslims.

Islamic jihad has killed 270 million people. And we are still counting. Muslims are targeted because the doctrine sanctions violence and terror. You have no basis accusing Christians killing because they are Christian. And the is nothing in Christian doctrine that comes close to suggesting any such thing.

The only conclusion is you are woefully uninformed, disingenuous, or willfully ignorant. In any case you are dead wrong.

Where are your sources for "270 million people"?

Muslims and violence huh?

Let's look at this.

List of cities by murder rate - Wikipedia

In the top 40 only one of those cities is outside of the Americas, it's Cape Town and that's in a Christian country too. In fact the top 50 cities are ALL CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia

By firearm homicides you have to get down to Israel before you see a single non-Christian country there.

You're looking at 1.04 per 100,000 gun homicides. Then Turkey is next. But that's 22 countries above these two.

List of invasions - Wikipedia

List of invasions since 2000.

You have Israel, twice, Russia twice, Comoros and Ethiopia once, the US/UK twice.

Well, that's 4 to Christianity, two to Judaism, one to Islam (though to be fair they were invading their own country) and Ethiopia's largest religion is Christianity.

So....

Basically Christian countries are the biggest threat, they're the biggest crime bases, they're the biggest problems and yet you blame Islamic countries.... why is that?

Tears of Jihad - Political Islam

 

[Lastamender]

And the Left does not give a fuck about the citizens of this country. We give the government its power not the other way around. And that power we give is to insure our safety and do things with our interests being foremost.

Does the right? I mean, when you get into this partisan team game bullshit, it's all about winning and not about what's best.

The establishment of the Right or the Left both lost this election. Trump is a populist.

Possibly, but then "right and left" don't exist as right and left. You have the Republicans and the Democrats, and one side claims to be right, the other claims to be left. Who won? Not the people, that's who.

The people did. That is what populism is about.

Rubbish. The rich won.

You are a whining idiot.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray let's just admit the rich win and the hard working person cannot get ahead in america. I'm calling this country out.

Call it anything you like, but once again, completely wrong.

The people that complain most about the rich (in my experience) are those who never took any real financial risks in their lives. Sure, you buy a house which for most Americans, is their biggest investment. But outside of that, how many risk their own money outside of perhaps their retirement account?

The answer: very few. And even less of them when it comes to running their own business.

We all like our toys. We like our I-phones, our 500 channel cable or satellite television. We like our alcohol and parties. We like our vacations. We love our internet. We love our blue-ray DVD movies. We love to eat out five times a week. We like leasing our cars because it gives us the ability to drive a new one every couple of years.

When you are obsessed with money, you learn how to live with very few if any of these things. You make sacrifices from the time you get up in the morning until the time you go to bed. You do without a lot of unnecessary items.

Will that make you rich? Perhaps not, but it will certainly give you a pathway to riches.

I remember hearing about a study that took place years ago. What they did is give children treats and taunted them at the same time. They told all the children in this experiment that they could eat the treats anytime they desired, but the longer they waited, the more treats they got later on.

Then they went back to these children (now adults) to see how they faired in life. The kids that ate the treats immediately were usually poor or middle-class; all dependent on either government or the employer. The kids that resisted temptation to get more treats did much better in life. College educated, a few business owners, and some making well into six figures.

 

[frigidweirdo]

How many people from Islam kill people compared to other religions? Christians probably kill far more, far more terrorist attacks come from Christians than Muslims in the US, and yet..... you want to target Muslims.

Outside of some crackpot killing an abortion doctor, when was the last time a person murdered somebody in the name of Christianity in the US?

Well here's the thing that's different. Christians don't necessarily kill in the name of Christianity. Christianity is far more loose than Islam. That doesn't mean Christians don't kill. The religion for many Christians in MONEY. That doesn't make Christians killing any better than Muslims killing.

It doesn't mean you go and target Muslims when they're by no way the biggest killers or criminals.

 

[initforme]

No ray I disagree. This country of my birth is by the rich for the rich. Hard to love it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Does the right? I mean, when you get into this partisan team game bullshit, it's all about winning and not about what's best.

The establishment of the Right or the Left both lost this election. Trump is a populist.

Possibly, but then "right and left" don't exist as right and left. You have the Republicans and the Democrats, and one side claims to be right, the other claims to be left. Who won? Not the people, that's who.

The people did. That is what populism is about.

Rubbish. The rich won.

You are a whining idiot.

Wow, insults.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How many people from Islam kill people compared to other religions? Christians probably kill far more, far more terrorist attacks come from Christians than Muslims in the US, and yet..... you want to target Muslims.

Outside of some crackpot killing an abortion doctor, when was the last time a person murdered somebody in the name of Christianity in the US?

Well here's the thing that's different. Christians don't necessarily kill in the name of Christianity. Christianity is far more loose than Islam. That doesn't mean Christians don't kill. The religion for many Christians in MONEY. That doesn't make Christians killing any better than Muslims killing.

It doesn't mean you go and target Muslims when they're by no way the biggest killers or criminals.

So you're agreeing that no Christian (in recent times) killed anybody over religion or creed like Muslims do all the time. That's very Christian of you.

 

[Kosh]

Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

Obama did that with the stimulus, but you far left drones will ignore that!

 

[Lastamender]

The establishment of the Right or the Left both lost this election. Trump is a populist.

Possibly, but then "right and left" don't exist as right and left. You have the Republicans and the Democrats, and one side claims to be right, the other claims to be left. Who won? Not the people, that's who.

The people did. That is what populism is about.

Rubbish. The rich won.

You are a whining idiot.

Wow, insults.

Why not? You have not said a thing that has made any sense. Comparing murders in the US to religiously inspired terror is just plain stupid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No ray I disagree. This country of my birth is by the rich for the rich. Hard to love it.

If that's the way you feel, then get rich yourself. What's stopping you?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

How did the rich not get richer nor the poor get poorer under Obama?

 

[frigidweirdo]

And what will banning Muslim immigration do? How many killings in the US have happened because of Muslims and how many because of non-Muslims?

And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

I have no problem with vetting people from all countries, targeting Muslims is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.

Terrorists can come from anywhere, they don't need to be Muslims.

Correct with the use of the word "can" Yes, they "can" come from anywhere, but they mostly come from (or have associations with) the middle-east. Just had one here last week. A Somalian ran into some people with his car and then jumped out and knifed the others. One of those mean white cops put him in his grave. Watch how DumBama and the left resist calling it a terrorist attack. Probably invent a new term like College Place Violence or something like that.

So then, you think you have a case, make it. You're not really making it right now, you're just saying stuff that you believe, but don't know. So come on, make the case, back it up.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

What the fuck our you fear mongering about? What the fuck did obozo do? He made wall street rich and fucked over main street

Did he? Are people poorer now than they were after Bush had got done with it all?

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Posting a chart doesn't help me.

Also, how much impact did the 2008 recession, the reduction of taxes for the rich by Bush, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the subsequent costs of this have anything to do with this?

I mean, this isn't something that happens over night. Policy consequences last for years.

Ah yes, it's back to "It's Bush's fault" again. So tell me, when did DumBama claim the recession ended? Please look at the chart for help. How many years afterwards did this Bush ramification last? Please look at the chart.

Another question: when did Republicans take leadership of Congress again? Please look at the chart. And when did fuel prices drop (the real economic relief)? Please refer to the chart.

What point are you making here? Are you trying to suggest that a recession can stop over night, and as soon as Obama gained the presidency it was his recession?

Why is it every time you mention that Bush did something wrong, people start going "blaming Bush again, get over" bullshit, like this is fucking high school or something.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And how many lives can we save by extreme vetting those from terrorist nations?

I have no problem with vetting people from all countries, targeting Muslims is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.

Terrorists can come from anywhere, they don't need to be Muslims.

Correct with the use of the word "can" Yes, they "can" come from anywhere, but they mostly come from (or have associations with) the middle-east. Just had one here last week. A Somalian ran into some people with his car and then jumped out and knifed the others. One of those mean white cops put him in his grave. Watch how DumBama and the left resist calling it a terrorist attack. Probably invent a new term like College Place Violence or something like that.

So then, you think you have a case, make it. You're not really making it right now, you're just saying stuff that you believe, but don't know. So come on, make the case, back it up.

I belive I already have. Most terrorist attacks are from middle-east men, associated with middle-east terrorist groups, or at the very least, inspired by them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump hasn't taken office yet, but already his picks are showing what his main policy is. To make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

In charge of education he wants DeVos who is a strong advocate for school vouchers. Vouchers are basically a ways of giving money to rich parents who can already send their kids to private school. So now they get money off their private school, and it won't do anything for most kids in the US.

Tom Price, who Trump will nominate to be in charge of Health, has sent through the last 3 Congresses a bill which would see people get reduced insurance bills, unless of course you have a problem in which case Price doesn't give a fuck about you and you'll have such a large insurance bill that you'll essentially die, unless of course you're rich.

Trump said he was having a revolution, that he was an outsider. So his pick for Treasury is a banker. The very people who caused all the problems that people could have supposed that a change, a revolution, would do away with. And he will essentially be carry out tax cuts for the wealthy.

For Attorney General there is Jeff Sessions. A guy who voted against a bill to prevent cruel, inhumane, or degrading punishment under the control of the US govt. He has a zero rating from the Human Rights Campaign. Well we know Trump has no idea about Human Rights, so to pick someone who doesn't give a damn about them or the Constitution is telling.

Basically the rich will get richer, and the poor are stuffed. The President won't represent anyone who isn't in the top 10%.

How did the rich not get richer nor the poor get poorer under Obama?

I'm not sure it's that simple. So I can't answer a question based on something you've just made up.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I have no problem with vetting people from all countries, targeting Muslims is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous?

Vetting people from all countries? Doesn't that fall under the same stupidity as the TSA strip searching 80 year old white women with red wigs on while younger middle- eastern men just jump aboard airplanes no questions asked?

When it comes to politically correct, it has it's place, but not with the security of our people and country.

Terrorists can come from anywhere, they don't need to be Muslims.

Correct with the use of the word "can" Yes, they "can" come from anywhere, but they mostly come from (or have associations with) the middle-east. Just had one here last week. A Somalian ran into some people with his car and then jumped out and knifed the others. One of those mean white cops put him in his grave. Watch how DumBama and the left resist calling it a terrorist attack. Probably invent a new term like College Place Violence or something like that.

So then, you think you have a case, make it. You're not really making it right now, you're just saying stuff that you believe, but don't know. So come on, make the case, back it up.

I belive I already have. Most terrorist attacks are from middle-east men, associated with middle-east terrorist groups, or at the very least, inspired by them.

You believe you have? Are you serious? You can't be, because I don't see a single thing you backed yourself up with.

 

[initforme]

I'm retired. Owned my own business. My son has it now. I owe my country less than zero. My country owes me nothing. I don't protest. I don't burn flags. I simp!y call it out.

 

[initforme]

My entitled right.