Gay's Adopting Children

[Grace]

That's a christian link, Tank. Sorry. Doesn't count.

 

[Samson]

Generally, I think kids in any "loving" family will do better than those in an institution. The loving family could be the Village People for all I care.

Well, a lot of queers are damaged psychological goods because they are obviously conflicted humans.

Plenty of straight people are damaged goods as well - actually based upon pure numbers - a lot more straight people are twisted.

Any couple (gay or straight) that wants to adopt children is put through a pretty rigorous screening. I trust they'd mostly screen out the nut cases.

If there are children that need to be adopted and there are pre-screened couples willing to take them- I think it is better for the child to be in a home even if the home has (gasp) gay people.

"Pure Numbers" are not what I'm talking about.

There are not a lotta queers, but there are alot of queers with psychological problems.

 

[Zander]

Well, a lot of queers are damaged psychological goods because they are obviously conflicted humans.

Plenty of straight people are damaged goods as well - actually based upon pure numbers - a lot more straight people are twisted.

Any couple (gay or straight) that wants to adopt children is put through a pretty rigorous screening. I trust they'd mostly screen out the nut cases.

If there are children that need to be adopted and there are pre-screened couples willing to take them- I think it is better for the child to be in a home even if the home has (gasp) gay people.

"Pure Numbers" are not what I'm talking about.

There are not a lotta queers, but there are alot of queers with psychological problems.

I live in LA- we have a lot of gay people here. Anecdotally speaking, I don't think there is any difference in the percentage of wack jobs... Do you have any studies that back you up?

 

[Grace]

And straights have psychological problems as well, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Tank]

That's a christian link, Tank. Sorry. Doesn't count.

Children of homosexuals and transsexuals more apt ... [J Biosoc Sci. 2006] - PubMed result

 

[Samson]

And straights have psychological problems as well, wouldn't you agree?

Obviously.

But the thread is about Queers, and their qualifications for being Adoptive Parents

I simply do not think many queers will pass psychological muster.
http://www.homosexinfo.org/Psychiatry/Overview

Anyway, it is well-known that about half of mentally ill people manifest personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). For instance, antisocial personality disorder characterizes about 3% of the general male population and 1% of the general female population (may be a low estimate), but between 3-30% of clinical samples (higher rates for forensic samples and substance users), whereas borderline personality disorder characterizes 10% of psychiatric outpatients, 20% of psychiatric inpatients, and 30-60% of individuals with personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). Therefore, given that homosexuals manifest a higher prevalence of Axis I disorders (drug abuse, mood disorders, anxiety disorders, etc.), it would be very surprising if they didn't manifest elevated personality disorders also.

 

[Grace]

I'm still waiting for you to man up, Tank, and apologize for insulting me by twisting my words to mean something warped in your own perseption.

 

[Samson]

I'm still waiting for you to man up, Tank, and apologize for insulting me by twisting my words to mean something warped in your own perseption.

Why?

 

[Gadawg73]

Tank, you are under the impression that gay people CHOOSE to be gay. They are born that way, dear.
Then again, I am sure there is disagreement about that. Which is another topic.

Some are born that way and some others choose

Tell us about how you chose to be straight.
How long did you contemplate schlong before you chose to be straight?
Was it like this: "Hmm, let me choose my sexuality. To start I have 2 choices. Do I want to be gay and have sex with men or do I want to be straight and have sex with women? Let me ponder that and go over each and every aspect of my choices and weigh the pros and cons of each choice I have"
Might work for you Moe but I never contemplated choices in my sexuality. You may not have been born with yours and considered schlong as an option, okay with me as I do not care but that is not how it works with anyone, gay or straight, that I know.
How long did it take for you to make your choice?

 

[Samson]

Plenty of straight people are damaged goods as well - actually based upon pure numbers - a lot more straight people are twisted.

Any couple (gay or straight) that wants to adopt children is put through a pretty rigorous screening. I trust they'd mostly screen out the nut cases.

If there are children that need to be adopted and there are pre-screened couples willing to take them- I think it is better for the child to be in a home even if the home has (gasp) gay people.

"Pure Numbers" are not what I'm talking about.

There are not a lotta queers, but there are alot of queers with psychological problems.

I live in LA- we have a lot of gay people here. Anecdotally speaking, I don't think there is any difference in the percentage of wack jobs... Do you have any studies that back you up?

I just posted one.

But before you conclude that crazy queers are pushed over the edge by "homophobics" consider the following:

Homosexinfo - Psychiatry - Psychiatric Morbidity among Homosexuals and Bisexuals

None exceed the Dutch when it comes to tolerance of homosexuality. The Dutch are a remarkably tolerant people: they allow euthanasia, prostitution, marijuana smoking, same-sex marriage, and tolerate pedophiles. Yet, why as evidenced by the NEMESIS study (Sandfort et al., 1999) do Dutch homosexuals/bisexuals manifest a mental health picture similar to their American counterparts? In the NEMESIS study, compared to heterosexual men, male homosexuals/bisexuals were about 7 times more likely to manifest bipolar disorder and 6 times more likely to manifest obsessive-compulsive disorder in their lifetime; note that this was a representative sample. Bipolar disorder is a mood disorder where subjects alternate between depression and a manic or euphoric state. Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is an anxiety disorder characterized by time consuming obsessions and compulsions that may cause marked distress or significant impairment. Note that both bipolar disorder29, 30 and OCD31, 32, 33 are strongly influenced by genes. How can so-called homophobia explain a higher frequency of outcomes such as OCD, bipolar disoder and personality disorders among homosexuals?

 

[Samson]

Tank, you are under the impression that gay people CHOOSE to be gay. They are born that way, dear.
Then again, I am sure there is disagreement about that. Which is another topic.

Some are born that way and some others choose

Tell us about how you chose to be straight.
How long did you contemplate schlong before you chose to be straight?
Was it like this: "Hmm, let me choose my sexuality. To start I have 2 choices. Do I want to be gay and have sex with men or do I want to be straight and have sex with women? Let me ponder that and go over each and every aspect of my choices and weigh the pros and cons of each choice I have"
Might work for you Moe but I never contemplated choices in my sexuality. You may not have been born with yours and considered schlong as an option, okay with me as I do not care but that is not how it works with anyone, gay or straight, that I know.
How long did it take for you to make your choice?

Ya know, no one really cares anymore WHY you are queer.

We just wanna know if you're crazy.

 

[Gadawg73]

And straights have psychological problems as well, wouldn't you agree?

Obviously.

But the thread is about Queers, and their qualifications for being Adoptive Parents

I simply do not think many queers will pass psychological muster.
Homosexinfo - Psychiatry - Psychiatric Morbidity among Homosexuals and Bisexuals

Anyway, it is well-known that about half of mentally ill people manifest personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). For instance, antisocial personality disorder characterizes about 3% of the general male population and 1% of the general female population (may be a low estimate), but between 3-30% of clinical samples (higher rates for forensic samples and substance users), whereas borderline personality disorder characterizes 10% of psychiatric outpatients, 20% of psychiatric inpatients, and 30-60% of individuals with personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). Therefore, given that homosexuals manifest a higher prevalence of Axis I disorders (drug abuse, mood disorders, anxiety disorders, etc.), it would be very surprising if they didn't manifest elevated personality disorders also.

Takes one to know one.

 

[Samson]

And straights have psychological problems as well, wouldn't you agree?

Obviously.

But the thread is about Queers, and their qualifications for being Adoptive Parents

I simply do not think many queers will pass psychological muster.
Homosexinfo - Psychiatry - Psychiatric Morbidity among Homosexuals and Bisexuals

Anyway, it is well-known that about half of mentally ill people manifest personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). For instance, antisocial personality disorder characterizes about 3% of the general male population and 1% of the general female population (may be a low estimate), but between 3-30% of clinical samples (higher rates for forensic samples and substance users), whereas borderline personality disorder characterizes 10% of psychiatric outpatients, 20% of psychiatric inpatients, and 30-60% of individuals with personality disorders (DSM-IV-TR, 2000). Therefore, given that homosexuals manifest a higher prevalence of Axis I disorders (drug abuse, mood disorders, anxiety disorders, etc.), it would be very surprising if they didn't manifest elevated personality disorders also.

Takes one to know one.

Is that supposed to be the most intelligent response you could conjure up?

 

[Gadawg73]

Some are born that way and some others choose

Tell us about how you chose to be straight.
How long did you contemplate schlong before you chose to be straight?
Was it like this: "Hmm, let me choose my sexuality. To start I have 2 choices. Do I want to be gay and have sex with men or do I want to be straight and have sex with women? Let me ponder that and go over each and every aspect of my choices and weigh the pros and cons of each choice I have"
Might work for you Moe but I never contemplated choices in my sexuality. You may not have been born with yours and considered schlong as an option, okay with me as I do not care but that is not how it works with anyone, gay or straight, that I know.
How long did it take for you to make your choice?

Ya know, no one really cares anymore WHY you are queer.

We just wanna know if you're crazy.

There was a middle linebacker at USC that later played with the Falcons and a few years with the 49ers. I wish I would have had someone like him playing behind me like him. His nickname was "Captain Krazy". Ask any back in the league then if he was crazy.
No one gave a shit about his sexuality one way or another. Same with the rest of the world.
Except you. Were you a kicker or a soccer player?

 

[Samson]

Tell us about how you chose to be straight.
How long did you contemplate schlong before you chose to be straight?
Was it like this: "Hmm, let me choose my sexuality. To start I have 2 choices. Do I want to be gay and have sex with men or do I want to be straight and have sex with women? Let me ponder that and go over each and every aspect of my choices and weigh the pros and cons of each choice I have"
Might work for you Moe but I never contemplated choices in my sexuality. You may not have been born with yours and considered schlong as an option, okay with me as I do not care but that is not how it works with anyone, gay or straight, that I know.
How long did it take for you to make your choice?

Ya know, no one really cares anymore WHY you are queer.

We just wanna know if you're crazy.

There was a middle linebacker at USC that later played with the Falcons and a few years with the 49ers. I wish I would have had someone like him playing behind me like him. His nickname was "Captain Krazy". Ask any back in the league then if he was crazy.
No one gave a shit about his sexuality one way or another. Same with the rest of the world.
Except you. Were you a kicker or a soccer player?

I wonder if queers make more non sequitur posts than normal people.

 

[Gadawg73]

Obviously.

But the thread is about Queers, and their qualifications for being Adoptive Parents

I simply do not think many queers will pass psychological muster.
Homosexinfo - Psychiatry - Psychiatric Morbidity among Homosexuals and Bisexuals

Takes one to know one.

Is that supposed to be the most intelligent response you could conjure up?

I got that from your link homosexinfo.
You guys are real experts. Thanks for sharing your research. How long have you been a member of homosexinfo?

 

[Spoonman]

The OP is fucking bullshit. To say you support gays adopting is bullshit, just like saying good parents shouldn't be allowed to adopt because of their sexuality.

All that matters is their ability to provide a good home and upbringing. The OP doesn't even bother with this.

I call bullshit on all such threads.

Yea, but nobody really cares what you have to say so.......

Speak for yourself.

I'll speak for who ever i want to. Whether you neg rec me again or not

 

[Samson]

Takes one to know one.

Is that supposed to be the most intelligent response you could conjure up?

I got that from your link homosexinfo.
You guys are real experts. Thanks for sharing your research. How long have you been a member of homosexinfo?

Well, let me spoon feed it to you:

There's these things called "search engines"

You type in a few words describing the topic you'd like to research, and it finds sources of information for you.

Am I going to fast?

 

[Gadawg73]

Ya know, no one really cares anymore WHY you are queer.

We just wanna know if you're crazy.

There was a middle linebacker at USC that later played with the Falcons and a few years with the 49ers. I wish I would have had someone like him playing behind me like him. His nickname was "Captain Krazy". Ask any back in the league then if he was crazy.
No one gave a shit about his sexuality one way or another. Same with the rest of the world.
Except you. Were you a kicker or a soccer player?

I wonder if queers make more non sequitur posts than normal people.

"non sequitur" sure is a big word. They made me take Latin at the Sewanee Military Academy in 1968. I slept in that class, left early and went to the weight room before practice. You sure do use the word queer a lot. Good that there is an expert on queers like you.

 

[Gadawg73]

Is that supposed to be the most intelligent response you could conjure up?

I got that from your link homosexinfo.
You guys are real experts. Thanks for sharing your research. How long have you been a member of homosexinfo?

Well, let me spoon feed it to you:

There's these things called "search engines"

You type in a few words describing the topic you'd like to research, and it finds sources of information for you.

Am I going to fast?

No shit. Good to know that you enjoy searching for queer information on the internet.
Were you close to your mother?