George Zimmerman Will Walk

[pioneerpete]

Zimmermans father said this..

Congressional Black Caucus. “[A] pathetic, self-serving group of racists… advancing their purely racist agenda.” He later adds that “all members of Congress should be ashamed of the Congressional Black Caucus, as should be their constituents.” And finally: “They are truly a disgrace to all Americans.”

The NAACP. “imply promotes racism and hatred for their own, primarily finical, interests” and “without prejudice and racial divide, the NAACP would simply cease to exist.”

NAACP President Benjamin Jealous. “[W]hat I would expect of a racist.”

Trayvon Martin’s funeral director. A “racial activist and former head of the local NAACP.”

Benjamin Crump, Natialie Jackson and Darrly Parks, attorneys for Travyon Martin’s family. “The scheme team.”

The National Basketball Players Association.

Black Chamber of Commerce.

National Association of Black Law Enforcement Officers.

National Black United Fund.

United Negro College Fund.



The NBA is racist people. Damn. Didn't fall too far from the tree, did he.

Sounds like he is honest to me

 

[Lakhota]

Why didn't Zimmerman ever tell Martin who he was (neighborhood watch person or concerned citizen)? Zimmerman made no effort to diffuse the situation that he instigated. Why?

This has all been confirmed by the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, who wanted to arrest Zimmerman after the shooting for manslaughter but was overruled by the state attorney's office.

 

[pioneerpete]

Why didn't Zimmerman ever tell Martin who he was (neighborhood watch person or concerned citizen)? Zimmerman made no effort to diffuse the situation that he instigated. Why?

Because he is not legally obligated to.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why didn't Zimmerman ever tell Martin who he was (neighborhood watch person or concerned citizen)? Zimmerman made no effort to diffuse the situation that he instigated. Why?

This has all been confirmed by the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, who wanted to arrest Zimmerman after the shooting for manslaughter but was overruled by the state attorney's office.

Dont usually introduce yourself to people punching you in the face.

 

[FireFly]

1. Zimmerman lived in a bad neighborhood that had suffered a series of well-documented break-ins and crimes.

2. Zimmerman was angry at the young black punks who he perceived were destroying his neighborhood.

3. Seeing Trayvon triggered the rage Zimmerman had for young black punks.

4. Zimmerman called 911 to report suspicious activity - but all he could say was that the kid looked suspicious.

5. The 911 operator asked if he was following Trayvon and Zimmerman said "yes". Zimmerman had profiled this young black teen.

6. The 911 operator said "do not follow him".

7. Zimmerman ignored the operator. He was determined to confront Trayvon. He was sick of seeing all the crime in his neighborhood and he finally found an easy target that would allow him to vent his rage.

8. He confronted Trayvon and it lead to a fight.

9. The fight escalated. Zimmerman suffered injuries, then he murdered Trayvon.

10. The Rightwing media is protecting Zimmerman because this conflict symbolizes a very familiar fear of blacks that reached its apex in the 70s. In the 70s, America's inner cities were besieged by ghettos, crime, garbage, crumbling infrastructure, de-industrialization, etc. This accelerated the "white flight " to the suburbs. Reagan campaigned for president on the promise to be tough on crime and clean up the inner cities. He was determined to unwind many of the welfare programs that inner city blacks depended upon, making the situation even more combustible. His strategy was to use the War on Drugs to beef up law enforcement in our crumbling cities. The War on Drugs was designed to give law enforcement better tools to move black kids from inner cities to cages (prison). But the fact remains, Reagan promised to save white people from the fabricated demons that were destroying our great cities. Fear of (and hatred of) "black punks" is very real for white Republicans, who are manipulated to fear blacks, homosexuals, muslims, mexicans, etc., etc. Of course the Rightwing voter is going to protect Zimmerman; he acted on the very fears which breathes life and purpose into their party.

Zimmerman did not profile Martin. But you are most certainly profiling Zimmerman.

 

[Lakhota]

Zimmerman could have been charged with manslaughter, which is defined in Section 782.07(1). That section of the law provides:

The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.​

Florida Statutes on Second Degree Murder and Manslaughter

Statutes & Constitution : View Statutes : Online Sunshine

 

[pioneerpete]

Zimmerman could have been charged with manslaughter, which is defined in Section 782.07(1). That section of the law provides:

The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.​

Florida Statutes on Second Degree Murder and Manslaughter

Statutes & Constitution : View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Can't leave out that part

 

[Jackson]

Left out that tiny important part where Martin attacked Zimmerman....I think what sealed it was the fact that Martin did have drugs in his system and Zimmerman saying to the dispatcher that he looked like he was on drugs.

"Drugs in his system"? You mean a little marijuana? So what? Wow, are you suggesting Martin had some sort of pot rage? Martin had his hood up, plus it was dark and raining - so how the hell could Zimmerman see well enough to think that Martin "looked like he was on drugs"? Oh, and how do we know for a fact that Martin "attacked Zimmerman"? Holy shit...

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AnCapAtheist How do difinitevly know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Damn. OH and Martin smoked some weed. So does a lot of people in here. Are they killers? Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though.

Fuck Florida.

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Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though.

Interesting.

 

[pioneerpete]

"Drugs in his system"? You mean a little marijuana? So what? Wow, are you suggesting Martin had some sort of pot rage? Martin had his hood up, plus it was dark and raining - so how the hell could Zimmerman see well enough to think that Martin "looked like he was on drugs"? Oh, and how do we know for a fact that Martin "attacked Zimmerman"? Holy shit...

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AnCapAtheist How do difinitevly know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Damn. OH and Martin smoked some weed. So does a lot of people in here. Are they killers? Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though.

Fuck Florida.

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B]Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though. [/B]

Interesting.

SOP to test the victim in all cases

 

[Lakhota]

Zimmerman's blood would have been tested IF the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, could have arrested Zimmerman that night like he wanted to. However, Serino was overruled by the state attorney's office who refused to allow Zimmerman to be arrested.

Chris Serino, the lead investigator the night of the shooting, didn't believe Zimmerman's account of the events and wanted him arrested for manslaughter but was overruled by the state attorney's office. Serino tried for 2 weeks to have Zimmerman arrested but couldn't.

Why Was Trayvon Martin Shot And Killed By George Zimmerman?

 

[pioneerpete]

Zimmerman's blood would have been tested IF the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, could have arrested Zimmerman that night like he wanted to. However, Serino was overruled by the state attorney's office who refused to allow Zimmerman to be arrested.

Chris Serino, the lead investigator the night of the shooting, didn't believe Zimmerman's account of the events and wanted him arrested for manslaughter but was overruled by the state attorney's office. Serino tried for 2 weeks to have Zimmerman arrested but couldn't.

Why Was Trayvon Martin Shot And Killed By George Zimmerman?

He was arrested that night. When they tell you are not free to leave, that means you are under arrest.

 

[Jackson]

@
AnCapAtheist How do difinitevly know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Damn. OH and Martin smoked some weed. So does a lot of people in here. Are they killers? Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though.

Fuck Florida.

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B]Oh and what drugs was zimmerman on? We dont know because those keystone cop idiots didnt have him tested. Seriously, he just shot and killed an unarmed kid and he doesnt get tested? They tested the damn victim though. [/B]

Interesting.

SOP to test the victim in all cases

And not the shooter???

 

[pioneerpete]

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Interesting.

SOP to test the victim in all cases

And not the shooter???

Have to believe that he is impaired before they can test him (probable cause). If they smell booze or eyes are extremely blood shot then they would have.

 

[Lakhota]

Zimmerman's blood would have been tested IF the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, could have arrested Zimmerman that night like he wanted to. However, Serino was overruled by the state attorney's office who refused to allow Zimmerman to be arrested.

Chris Serino, the lead investigator the night of the shooting, didn't believe Zimmerman's account of the events and wanted him arrested for manslaughter but was overruled by the state attorney's office. Serino tried for 2 weeks to have Zimmerman arrested but couldn't.

Why Was Trayvon Martin Shot And Killed By George Zimmerman?

He was arrested that night. When they tell you are not free to leave, that means you are under arrest.

Not true. Zimmerman was not arrested or charged the night of the shooting. He was simply being questioned.

Fla. Teen's Shooter Still Free; Lack Of Evidence Cited : NPR

 

[pioneerpete]

Zimmerman's blood would have been tested IF the lead police investigator, Chris Serino, could have arrested Zimmerman that night like he wanted to. However, Serino was overruled by the state attorney's office who refused to allow Zimmerman to be arrested.



Why Was Trayvon Martin Shot And Killed By George Zimmerman?

He was arrested that night. When they tell you are not free to leave, that means you are under arrest.

Not true. Zimmerman was not arrested or charged the night of the shooting. He was simply being questioned.

Call it what you will, but when they tell you that you are not free to leave, then you are technically under arrest.

 

[Lakhota]

He was arrested that night. When they tell you are not free to leave, that means you are under arrest.

Not true. Zimmerman was not arrested or charged the night of the shooting. He was simply being questioned.

Call it what you will, but when they tell you that you are not free to leave, then you are technically under arrest.

How can one be under arrest and not be charged with something? Being detained is not same as being arrested. Was Zimmerman given a Miranda warning and charged that night? Answer: No, he wasn't.

 

[pioneerpete]

Not true. Zimmerman was not arrested or charged the night of the shooting. He was simply being questioned.

Call it what you will, but when they tell you that you are not free to leave, then you are technically under arrest.

How can one be under arrest and not be charged with something? Being detained is not same as being arrested. Was Zimmerman given a Miranda warning and charged that night?

Not charged but Miranda was read a couple times to him. If they have probable cause the police can arrest you and hold you for I believe 24 hours without charging you. Detained is when the cop stops you on the sidewalk and asks you questions. A traffic stop is being detained. It is brief. When you are transported to the station and questioned under Miranda you are under arrest.

 

[Lakhota]

Call it what you will, but when they tell you that you are not free to leave, then you are technically under arrest.

How can one be under arrest and not be charged with something? Being detained is not same as being arrested. Was Zimmerman given a Miranda warning and charged that night?

Not charged but Miranda was read a couple times to him. If they have probable cause the police can arrest you and hold you for I believe 24 hours without charging you. Detained is when the cop stops you on the sidewalk and asks you questions. A traffic stop is being detained. It is brief. When you are transported to the station and questioned under Miranda you are under arrest.

Yes, Zimmerman was Mirandized the night of the shooting - but not charged or arrested.

 

[Jackson]

SOP to test the victim in all cases

And not the shooter???

Have to believe that he is impaired before they can test him (probable cause). If they smell booze or eyes are extremely blood shot then they would have.

So, If I have an altercation with someone and shoot them dead, they would do a toxicology test on them and not me? Strange, very strange.

 

[pioneerpete]

How can one be under arrest and not be charged with something? Being detained is not same as being arrested. Was Zimmerman given a Miranda warning and charged that night?

Not charged but Miranda was read a couple times to him. If they have probable cause the police can arrest you and hold you for I believe 24 hours without charging you. Detained is when the cop stops you on the sidewalk and asks you questions. A traffic stop is being detained. It is brief. When you are transported to the station and questioned under Miranda you are under arrest.

Yes, Zimmerman was Mirandized the night of the shooting - but not charged or arrested.

https://www.ohiobar.org/ForPublic/Resources/LawFactsPamphlets/Pages/LawFactsPamphlet-21.aspx

An arrest is different from a stop. A stop involves brief questioning in the place where you were detained. If the officer wants to hold you longer, or decides to take you elsewhere, such as to the police station, he or she is no longer just stopping you, but is arresting you. An arrest deprives you of your freedom of movement for an even longer period of time than a stop, so the law limits the instances when arrests can be made.