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What is it with the liberal culture of charisma over substance? I don't have to like the delivery of the message to see value in the message. Please explain how actually working to restore transparency, honor and accountability in government is bad. Note the difference, not talking about doing it, but working to make it happen.
It's bad because Obama is not transparent, honorable, or accountable...and we can't allow that to be pointed out.
Tell that to the mother of several children abandoned by her husband.
I didn't have to, she told me.
Again, something that was told to me. A wise old man sat down with a calculator and a spreadsheet (the old style kind, huge piece of paper) and calculated the rate of return for his Social Security and Medicare contributions.
You sure about that? The GI Bill was listed as a "benefit" on my annual summary of "comparable compensation." It was part of the reason I made so little while serving. Same bullshit document that claimed sharing a room with someone else was worth $450 a month. I rented a 2BR house on the beach for that amount then.
My VA home loan was a fucking rip off. 2% origination fee? Non-assumable? Same credit requirements? Same debt collection procedures? Same interest rate? Same cash down? Twice the paperwork?
Government in action.
Tell that to millions of peoples who lived were turned for the better, which in turn made our lives better as well.
Go to, asterism, go to.
I have no problem saying that my contributions to help others are best spent at charities than government. Warren Buffett agrees.
No woman abandoned with children told you any such thing.
Again, no old wise man did any such calculations for you, and those figures if done would come out in support of the programs.
You who denigrate the GI Bill and so forth have no idea what you are saying. The entitlement is one of the reasons the middle class grew as strongly as it did through the 1950s.
The VA home loan is anything but a rip off. I bought a house and land now worth almost $750,000, which I lease out for a good annual income.
Rent all you want and throw the money away.
You well be right about charities, but I doubt you donate significantly to them.
850+ posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clearly............Beck is seen as a nobody by the left!!!
who was Jesus talking to in those scriptures?actually, you've done the exact opposite
You would have to show how that is true.
and for the old testament, who was God instructing?
it wasn't any government
thats for sure
and the Israelites didnt have a government till way after those scriptures
yes, the gates of the campwho was Jesus talking to in those scriptures?You would have to show how that is true.
Which scripture? There are 4.
God instructed the Jews to give to the levites, and how to go about giving to the city.and for the old testament, who was God instructing?
it wasn't any government
thats for sure
and the Israelites didnt have a government till way after those scriptures
14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied;
Within the gates has meaning, maybe you are avoiding it, and the message god gave the jew, to tithe in such a way as to be unknown, within the gates, in the streets.
And Beck beat the pants off those.Apparently around 300k turned out. And I remember when 30k turning out for Obama was a big deal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/us/politics/29beck.html?_r=1&src=mv
What a shame, senility in one so young.
Obama rallies tens of thousands at Portland waterfront | OregonLive.com
Obama rallies tens of thousands at Portland waterfront
Published: Monday, May 19, 2008, 6:15 AM Updated: Monday, May 19, 2008, 11:16 AM
Jerry Casey, The Oregonian
Tens of thousands jammed Gov. Tom McCall Waterfront Park in Portland on Sunday to watch Barack Obama wrap up a busy weekend in Oregon and a historic campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.
The Portland Fire Bureau estimated the crowd at 72,000. About 60,000 squeezed inside the gates and 12,000 watched from outside.
It was a record crowd for an Oregon political event. In 2004, an estimated 50,000 turned out to see Democrat John Kerry, who brought along movie idol Leonardo DiCaprio and rocker Jon Bon Jovi.
who was Jesus talking to in those scriptures?
Which scripture? There are 4.
God instructed the Jews to give to the levites, and how to go about giving to the city.and for the old testament, who was God instructing?
it wasn't any government
thats for sure
and the Israelites didnt have a government till way after those scriptures
14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied;
Within the gates has meaning, maybe you are avoiding it, and the message god gave the jew, to tithe in such a way as to be unknown, within the gates, in the streets.
yes, the gates of the camp
NO,.............the gates of the community. Where did you get camp? Do camps have gates? Streets? Store rooms? Get a grip.
Tithing in the farming communities
Neh 10:37 ... and to bring the tithes of our land to
the Levites, for the Levites should receive
the tithes in all our farming communities.
:38 And the priest, the descendant of Aaron, shall
be with the Levites when the Levites receive
tithes; ...
and the Levites were the priestly order, as in the CHURCH
claiming it was the government is a huge massive stretch
The priests were the governing council of the communities, like the head dudes. So where are you going wrong at?? Every form of government has a leader, they were the leaders. Do you think storage rooms and streets, etc. just popped up? Of course not! That took organization, not randomness shuffling. ie. Who runs Iran?
The priests were the governing council of the communities, like the head dudes. So where are you going wrong at?? Every form of government has a leader, they were the leaders. Do you think storage rooms and streets, etc. just popped up? Of course not! That took organization, not randomness shuffling. ie. Who runs Iran?
And here folks, you see the intensity of the Beck idiot....faced with the inevitable conclusion that Beck has played him for a fool, this intense idiot blathers on like Karl Rove on crack during the 2008 campaign.
Beck's idiots....a pathetic lot. I leave this intense idiot to his predictable blatherings.
No... what I see is another pin headed liberal that's so damn indoctrinated that his thought patterns look and sound like something from a "re-education camp."
And as typical with Beck idiot's (his words, not mine), the Pale Rider breaks hard to avoid the FACTS that I put forth regarding Beck, and instead tries to insist upon turning the discussion into dealing with manic Rove 2008 talking points and mantras.
Pity the Beck idiot...the truth makes them pale, and they ride away in fear. I leave them to it.
Either that or a six week vacation in rehab. It must be so tough for you with so many idiot's in the world. Are we detecting a pattern here?????- 19 May 2008 - "Record Obama Crowd, the Size of a City" (Portland, estimated 75 000)Glen Beck got a full turn out of listeners, with his ability to draw a crowd. The message he preaches is a little scary tho, in wanting to roll his crowd up in religion .....
Beck has some great shots on his Site.
Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Restoring Honor: Crowd, Page 1
Many on here are daveman. That's why I could care less when the hypocrites throw that word around. I've even seen some level hate speech, wishing conservatives would die. All in the name of "tolerance" of course.
They are so out of touch with ordinary folks that it's really quite sad.
When people deliberately distort the facts to increase the estimate of the size of the crowd, then, yes, that lack of integrity does factor into the claims about Beck's crowd. Beck's Message is what should be discussed here instead of having to defend against fabrications of the crowd size.
When people deliberately distort the facts to increase the estimate of the size of the crowd, then, yes, that lack of integrity does factor into the claims about Beck's crowd. Beck's Message is what should be discussed here instead of having to defend against fabrications of the crowd size.
I agree about the message is what is more important.
I would like to add that your first sentance works both ways. Those deliberatly distorting the size of the crowd in either direction lack integrity.
When people deliberately distort the facts to increase the estimate of the size of the crowd, then, yes, that lack of integrity does factor into the claims about Beck's crowd. Beck's Message is what should be discussed here instead of having to defend against fabrications of the crowd size.
I agree about the message is what is more important.
I would like to add that your first sentance works both ways. Those deliberatly distorting the size of the crowd in either direction lack integrity.
I agree with your conclusion, but somewhere around 87,000 to 125,000 looks about right, would you not agree?
"Ever since Glenn Beck brought his rodeo clown show to the Fox News Channel, News Hounds has been illuminating one lie after another, spoken by the most mendacious tee vee personality ever. While Beck claims he will correct any mistakes he makes, we have waited anxiously for him to take up some of these falsehoods. Good thing were not holding our breath. Thats why it was stunning to hear him admit on his radio show that he lied to the 89,000or is it 500,000?Beckerheads who gathered at his Restoring Honor rally on the mall in Washington D.C. last weekend. To make matters worse, he admitted he did so because the lie was easier than simply telling the truth. Maybe that should be the motto of his showhttp://www.newshounds.us/2010/09/04/glenn_beck_admits_lying_is_easier_than_truth_telling.php#more instead of Faith, Hope, and Charity.
You Are an Idiot | Flash Videos"Ever since Glenn Beck brought his rodeo clown show to the Fox News Channel, News Hounds has been illuminating one lie after another, spoken by the most mendacious tee vee personality ever. While Beck claims he will correct any mistakes he makes, we have waited anxiously for him to take up some of these falsehoods. Good thing were not holding our breath. Thats why it was stunning to hear him admit on his radio show that he lied to the 89,000or is it 500,000?Beckerheads who gathered at his Restoring Honor rally on the mall in Washington D.C. last weekend. To make matters worse, he admitted he did so because the lie was easier than simply telling the truth. Maybe that should be the motto of his showhttp://www.newshounds.us/2010/09/04/glenn_beck_admits_lying_is_easier_than_truth_telling.php#more instead of Faith, Hope, and Charity.
