GOP to shutdown govt. and default on debt

why is the GOP insisting that the ACA not be funded or they will shut down the govt?

Why do the Democrats insist on ramming the ACA down our throats? If through no other means they can convince the democrats to scrap the bill and start over, they will resort to things like this to push their point.

they didnt. There was a year long discussion on it, and a massive SCOTUS ruling over it. Maybe you where around for it?

also your statement is rather gay. Stop projecting

That so called discussion was necessary to get the last two Senate votes to pass the ACA. In the real world it is called bribery.

Sen. Mary L. Landrieu, Louisiana Democrat, provided one of the last two votes needed to bring the government health care takeover to the Senate. She didn’t even blush about selling her vote. “I am not going to be defensive. And it’s not a $100 million fix. It’s a $300 million fix,” Mrs. Landrieu bragged on Nov. 21. This gross windfall will flood into her state through added benefits in the health care bill. This is government at its worst.

Read more: EDITORIAL: The $300 million Louisiana purchase - Washington Times
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After a week of legislative high drama, it turns out what Sen. Ben Nelson really wanted was... a basket of goodies for his home state of Nebraska. Nelson, the most determined of the Democratic holdouts on health care reform, announced this morning that he will vote for cloture on the bill, shutting down debate so that the Senate can hold an up or down vote on passage. But he only did so after securing handouts for his home state of Nebraska.

Ben Nelson Gets a Basket of Goodies, Senate Democrats Get 60 Votes For Health Care Reform - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
Most Americans won't see it that way. The GOP will take the blame, as they should. I'm looking forward to being vindicated.

When the GOP tried the shutdown tactic in the 1990s under Clinton, it was a policy and political fiasco for the GOP. The Gomers & Old People haven't learned a thing.

It was? The House Republicans lost 8 seats in the next election--a historical low triggered by a bad campaign run by Bob Dole far more than any backlash for forcing welfare reform. Actually it was a net loss of 7 seats since they picked up a formerly held Democratic seat. They easily retained their majority. They gained 2 seats in the Senate. Hardly a disaster.

What DID lose them their majority in the House and Senate was going along with unconscionable spending and entitlement bills between 2002 and 2007. We conservatives did get fed up with that and without our votes, the GOP couldn't hold on to the power. And they will be punished again I think if they don't stick to their guns on doing the right thing now. Or at least they will be unless the Democrats get so much worse that we just can't stomach that any more.

The GOP's maintaining a majority under Clinton was only due to conservative fear of unified Dem government. Then the 9/11 attacks led Americans to mistakenly believe that only the GOP could be trusted to be tough on terror and have a competent military and foreign policy strategy.

By 2006 the voters realized what a terrible mistake that was, and voted for the Dems to take back Congress. Medicare D and other big spending by the GOP had nothing to do with it. If it did, there'd be more votes to defund Medicare D than there has been, which is zilcho.

Medicare D is one of the very few government programs that is coming in UNDER budget.
 
Why do the Democrats insist on ramming the ACA down our throats? If through no other means they can convince the democrats to scrap the bill and start over, they will resort to things like this to push their point.

they didnt. There was a year long discussion on it, and a massive SCOTUS ruling over it. Maybe you where around for it?

also your statement is rather gay. Stop projecting

That so called discussion was necessary to get the last two Senate votes to pass the ACA. In the real world it is called bribery.

Sen. Mary L. Landrieu, Louisiana Democrat, provided one of the last two votes needed to bring the government health care takeover to the Senate. She didn’t even blush about selling her vote. “I am not going to be defensive. And it’s not a $100 million fix. It’s a $300 million fix,” Mrs. Landrieu bragged on Nov. 21. This gross windfall will flood into her state through added benefits in the health care bill. This is government at its worst.

Read more: EDITORIAL: The $300 million Louisiana purchase - Washington Times
Follow us: [MENTION=39892]Was[/MENTION]htimes on Twitter

After a week of legislative high drama, it turns out what Sen. Ben Nelson really wanted was... a basket of goodies for his home state of Nebraska. Nelson, the most determined of the Democratic holdouts on health care reform, announced this morning that he will vote for cloture on the bill, shutting down debate so that the Senate can hold an up or down vote on passage. But he only did so after securing handouts for his home state of Nebraska.

Ben Nelson Gets a Basket of Goodies, Senate Democrats Get 60 Votes For Health Care Reform - Hit & Run : Reason.com
how do you think most bills are passed? dont be naive. Welcome to politics, been going on since man first walked around.
 
they didnt. There was a year long discussion on it, and a massive SCOTUS ruling over it. Maybe you where around for it?

also your statement is rather gay. Stop projecting

That so called discussion was necessary to get the last two Senate votes to pass the ACA. In the real world it is called bribery.



Read more: EDITORIAL: The $300 million Louisiana purchase - Washington Times
Follow us: [MENTION=39892]Was[/MENTION]htimes on Twitter

After a week of legislative high drama, it turns out what Sen. Ben Nelson really wanted was... a basket of goodies for his home state of Nebraska. Nelson, the most determined of the Democratic holdouts on health care reform, announced this morning that he will vote for cloture on the bill, shutting down debate so that the Senate can hold an up or down vote on passage. But he only did so after securing handouts for his home state of Nebraska.

Ben Nelson Gets a Basket of Goodies, Senate Democrats Get 60 Votes For Health Care Reform - Hit & Run : Reason.com
how do you think most bills are passed? dont be naive. Welcome to politics, been going on since man first walked around.

Most bills don't affect 1/6 of the entire budget and don't make two shits to most of us.
 
Why do the Democrats insist on ramming the ACA down our throats? If through no other means they can convince the democrats to scrap the bill and start over, they will resort to things like this to push their point.

they didnt. There was a year long discussion on it, and a massive SCOTUS ruling over it. Maybe you where around for it?

also your statement is rather gay. Stop projecting

That so called discussion was necessary to get the last two Senate votes to pass the ACA. In the real world it is called bribery.

Sen. Mary L. Landrieu, Louisiana Democrat, provided one of the last two votes needed to bring the government health care takeover to the Senate. She didn’t even blush about selling her vote. “I am not going to be defensive. And it’s not a $100 million fix. It’s a $300 million fix,” Mrs. Landrieu bragged on Nov. 21. This gross windfall will flood into her state through added benefits in the health care bill. This is government at its worst.

Read more: EDITORIAL: The $300 million Louisiana purchase - Washington Times
Follow us: @Washtimes on Twitter

After a week of legislative high drama, it turns out what Sen. Ben Nelson really wanted was... a basket of goodies for his home state of Nebraska. Nelson, the most determined of the Democratic holdouts on health care reform, announced this morning that he will vote for cloture on the bill, shutting down debate so that the Senate can hold an up or down vote on passage. But he only did so after securing handouts for his home state of Nebraska.

Ben Nelson Gets a Basket of Goodies, Senate Democrats Get 60 Votes For Health Care Reform - Hit & Run : Reason.com
Extension of the 'Cornhusker Deal'? NOT surprised. Nelson needs to be FIRED.
 
That so called discussion was necessary to get the last two Senate votes to pass the ACA. In the real world it is called bribery.



Read more: EDITORIAL: The $300 million Louisiana purchase - Washington Times
Follow us: [MENTION=39892]Was[/MENTION]htimes on Twitter



Ben Nelson Gets a Basket of Goodies, Senate Democrats Get 60 Votes For Health Care Reform - Hit & Run : Reason.com
how do you think most bills are passed? dont be naive. Welcome to politics, been going on since man first walked around.

Most bills don't affect 1/6 of the entire budget and don't make two shits to most of us.

scale doesnt make the point wrong, it just points out the scale.
So in reality you have nothing.
 
Most bills don't affect 1/6 of the entire budget and don't make two shits to most of us.

scale doesnt make the point wrong, it just points out the scale.
So in reality you have nothing.

It cost Ben Nelson his Senate seat and he was replaced by a Republican.

so what? again that doesn't mean anything beyond he lost his seat. Deals are made all the time to pass bills. You can color them in whatever way you want, but it will always be part of any government.
 
Let's see what happens when the Senate votes on the House bill.

If the Senate doesn't bring it up for a vote, it will be the Democrats who shut down the government.
 
scale doesnt make the point wrong, it just points out the scale.
So in reality you have nothing.

It cost Ben Nelson his Senate seat and he was replaced by a Republican.

so what? again that doesn't mean anything beyond he lost his seat. Deals are made all the time to pass bills. You can color them in whatever way you want, but it will always be part of any government.
And why DEALS that screw the people , ROB liberty...even from YOU Dork?

YOU don't get it. YOU never will...but YOU are on the dole anyway...what do you care? YOU are here to DEFEND your moochery from US taxpayers.

GET A JOB moocher.
 
Let's see what happens when the Senate votes on the House bill.

If the Senate doesn't bring it up for a vote, it will be the Democrats who shut down the government.
Correct.

The ball is in their court. The House has already taken positive action.
 
It cost Ben Nelson his Senate seat and he was replaced by a Republican.

so what? again that doesn't mean anything beyond he lost his seat. Deals are made all the time to pass bills. You can color them in whatever way you want, but it will always be part of any government.
And why DEALS that screw the people , ROB liberty...even from YOU Dork?

YOU don't get it. YOU never will...but YOU are on the dole anyway...what do you care? YOU are here to DEFEND your moochery from US taxpayers.

GET A JOB moocher.

huh? i work harder in my 12 hours at work than you have in your whole life drunk.
deals are made for good or bad. regardless its a tangent argument.
 
Let's see what happens when the Senate votes on the House bill.

If the Senate doesn't bring it up for a vote, it will be the Democrats who shut down the government.
Correct.

The ball is in their court. The House has already taken positive action.
They have, and they had better not waiver one iota. GET OUT into the public eye and explain it. It is the Democrats that will cause default. It's about TIME I see some backbone with the Repubes.
 
Let's see what happens when the Senate votes on the House bill.

If the Senate doesn't bring it up for a vote, it will be the Democrats who shut down the government.
And the HOUSE needs to stand their ground and MAKE the DEMS default. GO PUBLIC with the people....tell them what's going on. AS over half of the population refuses Ocare? It won't be a hard sell.

THEY have to stand their ground for once. WE will back them.
 
The GOP would rather shut down the govt. than fund ObamaCare.

The American people see that.
 

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