Gun owner...first shot kills homem invader...literally, his first shot...

[DriftingSand]

You know machining a 30 round magazine is like machine tool 101 right? Even if you made them illegal criminals could make them, crazy people could more easily make them, because the buggers are so dedicated to whatever mayhem they propose to do.

And if you make them they are much more likely to jam. Magazines made by the manufacturer often jam as it is. Made in the garage would jam a lot.

Again, machine shop 101, its stamped metal with a spring and a plate in it.

I have HUNDREDS of normal capacity magazines. at least 100 30 rounders for AR 15s

why-I am a competitive shooter I go through a lot of magazines

When the gun-hating Libs in Colorado's legislative branch passed a recent law limiting magazine capacity the gun accessory company, Magpul, offered a special deal before the law was signed by Governor Hickenlooper (and anemic Lib). They generally don't sell directly to the general public but they made an exception in this case. They offered (at a great price) to sell up to 10 30rd mags to any Coloradan in any County except for Denver County (a bastion for Liberal kooks). I bought 10 even though I already had several.[/QUOTE]

What a fucking tool you are. Are you READY for the zombie apocalypse yet? Or do you need another dozen or so of them 30 round mags. You ONLY have one hundred of them. Better get em before the zombies get em. They are coming to get you, ya know that don't cha?

Rambo on dude rambo on.

Good god the gun and ammo manufactures love idiots like you gun nutters. Profit profit profit is what you represent.

First, learn how to use and employ the quote function so your posts will show up as separate from mine. Don't worry ... I took care of it this time.

Secondly, it's none of your damned business how many mags I buy or why but for the sake of the more intelligent posters around here I shall share some little tidbits of information:

1) I bought all those mags as a protest against the LibTurds in Colorado's State government.
2) I bought all of those mags as a means to help support Magpul and their effort to fight the LibWits in Colorado's State government.
3) Since these sorts of mags will increase in value over the coming years I bought them as an investment where I could easily triple my money.

Anymore stupid questions?

 

[DriftingSand]

This story is why guns are so important as a defensive tool....this is a 70 year old man who never fired a gun before...ever....a home invader breaks into this couples house, points the shotgun and orders the 70 year old man to get on the ground....




Defensive Gun Use of the Day OK Gun Owner s First Ever Shot Takes Down Shotgun Burglar Edition - The Truth About Guns



the anti gunners don't understand...firearms are not that hard to use...sure...more training is better than no training....but very little training is no bar from deploying a gun effectively....in most self defense cases, you aren't going to find people who train like navy seals....they tend to be average people with little to no training, and they use the guns to save lives and stop violent criminal attacks....that is why the gun replaced the sword, and spear and why they are so important for the weak, the old, the injured, the ambushed and the individual facing multiple attackers....no other weapon makes people equal the way a gun does....

And he didn't need a hi cap magazine.

No one has ever lost a gun fight because he had TOO much ammo

its like saying that disease I had did no require my 1 million annual insurance policy limits

Listen anti gun twits: IF CIVILIAN POLICE have determined that 17 shot pistols and 30 shot rifles are the most suitable self defense weapons for CIVILIAN cops to use in a CIVILIAN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, who are you ninnies to disagree?

Sorry but if you have to actually arrest criminals it's different than defending. Defending you shoot at somebody a couple times and they take off it's over. Cop shoots at a criminal a couple times and he takes off and the cop needs to pursue. Totally different. Sorry.

You keep claiming that the criminal will take off when a couple of shots are fired. It is interesting that you think this is what always happens.

And cops are not allowed to shoot at a fleeing suspect, unless they can show them to be a danger.

No, that is what YOUR much beloved Kleck study says. Or didn't you read it? And nothing happens ALWAYS.
But with the zombie apocalypse coming to your house, you probably do need a machine gun. Don't cha?
You know, to really put some lead in the air.

Machine guns for everyone. That is what we need to stop the zombies. And all those others that need shooting.
I'd be down with that. I want gun stores to sell reasonable priced full auto machine guns.

Do you support that idea or not. Machine guns for everybody that can buy a gun. If the police have them and the military has them then us citizens need them.

Why isn't the NRA pushing for my right to own a full auto machine gun?

Where do you keep coming up with you little catch phrase, "Zombie Apocalypse?" Who the hell here has shown an ounce of concern over something like that? Not me, certainly. Have you ever heard of TARGET SHOOTING? Yeah ... it's when you take your gun out to the range, set up some targets, and shoot at them. I personally like to preload my mags so I don't have to do it as much when I'm on the site. I want to shoot ... not load mags when I'm out there.

You already have the "right" to "own a full auto machine gun." No need for the NRA to "push" for the right.

 

[Wildman]

I'm glad things worked out of that old couple, I really am, but anyone who has a gun for self defense purposes and doesn't train with it is an idiot.

This one story doesn't change that.

============
define "train with it"

 

[2aguy]

So you are saying police know when and where crimes are going to happen?

And yet you are claiming you know, know, how many rounds every person in a self defense will ever need, ever...

 

[TrueMan]

America is really only exceptional when it comes to the number of guns, the frequency of gun murders, and the shockingly high number of annual gun deaths. Guys, I don't think, it's ok. We have to change something. And the sooner, the better.

 

[2aguy]

We have to change something. And the sooner, the better.

Yes, the thing we need to change is criminal drug gangs in democrat controlled cities...if we can get a handle on that, we will have about the same gun crime rate as Europe...

 

[Ernie S.]

Maybe we can get rid of democrat controlled cities?

 

[2aguy]

Maybe we can get rid of democrat controlled cities?

That would require cutting off Santa's goodie machine...they by the votes of these city dwellers, and blame republicans for their problems...

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

 

[WinterBorn]

This story is why guns are so important as a defensive tool....this is a 70 year old man who never fired a gun before...ever....a home invader breaks into this couples house, points the shotgun and orders the 70 year old man to get on the ground....




Defensive Gun Use of the Day OK Gun Owner s First Ever Shot Takes Down Shotgun Burglar Edition - The Truth About Guns



the anti gunners don't understand...firearms are not that hard to use...sure...more training is better than no training....but very little training is no bar from deploying a gun effectively....in most self defense cases, you aren't going to find people who train like navy seals....they tend to be average people with little to no training, and they use the guns to save lives and stop violent criminal attacks....that is why the gun replaced the sword, and spear and why they are so important for the weak, the old, the injured, the ambushed and the individual facing multiple attackers....no other weapon makes people equal the way a gun does....

And he didn't need a hi cap magazine.

No one has ever lost a gun fight because he had TOO much ammo

its like saying that disease I had did no require my 1 million annual insurance policy limits

Listen anti gun twits: IF CIVILIAN POLICE have determined that 17 shot pistols and 30 shot rifles are the most suitable self defense weapons for CIVILIAN cops to use in a CIVILIAN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, who are you ninnies to disagree?

Sorry but if you have to actually arrest criminals it's different than defending. Defending you shoot at somebody a couple times and they take off it's over. Cop shoots at a criminal a couple times and he takes off and the cop needs to pursue. Totally different. Sorry.

You keep claiming that the criminal will take off when a couple of shots are fired. It is interesting that you think this is what always happens.

And cops are not allowed to shoot at a fleeing suspect, unless they can show them to be a danger.

No, that is what YOUR much beloved Kleck study says. Or didn't you read it? And nothing happens ALWAYS.
But with the zombie apocalypse coming to your house, you probably do need a machine gun. Don't cha?
You know, to really put some lead in the air.

Machine guns for everyone. That is what we need to stop the zombies. And all those others that need shooting.
I'd be down with that. I want gun stores to sell reasonable priced full auto machine guns.

Do you support that idea or not. Machine guns for everybody that can buy a gun. If the police have them and the military has them then us citizens need them.

Why isn't the NRA pushing for my right to own a full auto machine gun?

Zeke, will you be continuing your typical pattern? Claim I said something I didn't, call me silly names, then bail out of the conversation? Actually, now that I think about it, there is no great loss.

 

[Brain357]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Hey nitwit, I repeat my question: What experience do you have is such matters? When has magazine capacity ever had an impact on your life in a defensive situation? You're the expert in this thread, big mouth, or at least you think you are. Sound off.

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Your claim is that, since gangbangers and mass shooters use high capacity magazines, no one should be able to have them. But you have no way of determining whether the gangbangers (by far the larger hazard of the two) would be effected by such a law.

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Hey nitwit, I repeat my question: What experience do you have is such matters? When has magazine capacity ever had an impact on your life in a defensive situation? You're the expert in this thread, big mouth, or at least you think you are. Sound off.

I have said several times that I have no firearms that hold high capacity magazines. But to claim that creating a law banning such magazines would have any significant effect is silly. To blame the shootings on the magazine capacity is even worse.

 

[Brain357]

So you are saying police know when and where crimes are going to happen?

And yet you are claiming you know, know, how many rounds every person in a self defense will ever need, ever...

Have never claimed that. I am saying way more innocent people are being killed by criminals using hi cap magazines than will ever be saved by a defender with hi cap magazines. So far nobody has a single example of anyone ever needing a hi cap mag for defense. Lots of good examples of defenders using far less however. Guy for this thread used one shot.

 

[Brain357]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Your claim is that, since gangbangers and mass shooters use high capacity magazines, no one should be able to have them. But you have no way of determining whether the gangbangers (by far the larger hazard of the two) would be effected by such a law.

Yes I do. Gangsters used to love tommy guns. We made them very difficult and expensive to get. Now we seldom see machine guns used by criminals. We make hi cap mags expensive and difficult to get and the same thing will happen with them. Criminals do not need hi cap magazines. They use them because they are so plentiful. Places have been robbed by a finger in a pocket pretending to be a gun. Paranoid gun nuts are the only ones who think they need hi cap magazines.

 

[Brain357]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Hey nitwit, I repeat my question: What experience do you have is such matters? When has magazine capacity ever had an impact on your life in a defensive situation? You're the expert in this thread, big mouth, or at least you think you are. Sound off.

So you still don't back it up. I have not heard of a single person ever needing a hi cap magazine for defense. Clearly you haven't either. I have however heard of lots needing no shots or just 1-2. I have never needed a gun for defense, so my experience says I need 0.

 

[Geaux4it]

Brain wants to make working conditions safer for robbers rapists and active shooters

that's the only logical position one can have of his psychotic nonsense

So we know mass shooters and gang bangers are using hi cap mags to kill innocent people all the time. Nobody here has a single example of anyone needing a hi cap magazine for defense. It's not psychotic nonsense, it's just common sense. Something you seem to be completely lacking.

We don't give a shit about what you think we need Brian

-Geaux

I am fully aware you don't care about all the innocent people being killed.

Actually, I don't care about the thugs that innocent people kill.

-Geaux

Then why do you want them to be so well armed? People don't need hi cap magazines for defense, only the thugs and mass shooters need them. Unless you have an example of someone needing a hi cap mag for defense?

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Hey nitwit, I repeat my question: What experience do you have is such matters? When has magazine capacity ever had an impact on your life in a defensive situation? You're the expert in this thread, big mouth, or at least you think you are. Sound off.

So you still don't back it up. I have not heard of a single person ever needing a hi cap magazine for defense. Clearly you haven't either. I have however heard of lots needing no shots or just 1-2. I have never needed a gun for defense, so my experience says I need 0.

You know why you have never 'heard' of anyone 'needing' a, what you call high cap magazine, is because
A. You're ignorant
B. You have no need to know
C. Lawful owners need not publicly explain their use of ammunition magazines
D. Dead men tell no tales.

-Geaux

 

[turtledude]

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Your claim is that, since gangbangers and mass shooters use high capacity magazines, no one should be able to have them. But you have no way of determining whether the gangbangers (by far the larger hazard of the two) would be effected by such a law.

Yes I do. Gangsters used to love tommy guns. We made them very difficult and expensive to get. Now we seldom see machine guns used by criminals. We make hi cap mags expensive and difficult to get and the same thing will happen with them. Criminals do not need hi cap magazines. They use them because they are so plentiful. Places have been robbed by a finger in a pocket pretending to be a gun. Paranoid gun nuts are the only ones who think they need hi cap magazines.

don't you get tired of all the moronic lies you spew.

 

[Brain357]

So we know mass shooters and gang bangers are using hi cap mags to kill innocent people all the time. Nobody here has a single example of anyone needing a hi cap magazine for defense. It's not psychotic nonsense, it's just common sense. Something you seem to be completely lacking.

We don't give a shit about what you think we need Brian

-Geaux

I am fully aware you don't care about all the innocent people being killed.

Actually, I don't care about the thugs that innocent people kill.

-Geaux

Then why do you want them to be so well armed? People don't need hi cap magazines for defense, only the thugs and mass shooters need them. Unless you have an example of someone needing a hi cap mag for defense?

I don't recall there being that many armed rioters. I also don't recall these Koreans killing a large number of people. How many people did they kill to defend themselves? Sounds like a situation where they could reload. You have a link that says what happened?

"I don't recall...I don't recall." I hope your dick isn't as short as your memory, Brain. Besides, you can click a Google button just as easy as me. I don't do homework for sloths. Tell me, you make yourself come across as an expert on the subject of high capacity magazines in defensive situations. Whet experience do you have is such matters?

So you make a claim you won't backup at all. You lose.

Hey nitwit, I repeat my question: What experience do you have is such matters? When has magazine capacity ever had an impact on your life in a defensive situation? You're the expert in this thread, big mouth, or at least you think you are. Sound off.

So you still don't back it up. I have not heard of a single person ever needing a hi cap magazine for defense. Clearly you haven't either. I have however heard of lots needing no shots or just 1-2. I have never needed a gun for defense, so my experience says I need 0.

You know why you have never 'heard' of anyone 'needing' a, what you call high cap magazine, is because
A. You're ignorant
B. You have no need to know
C. Lawful owners need not publicly explain their use of ammunition magazines
D. Dead men tell no tales.

-Geaux

So you have some examples you can link to then?